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What is the difference between nationalism and patriotism?

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What is the difference between nationalism and patriotism?

Which came first?
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>>1990191
Depends on what you mean for both, but you could argue both.

If Nationalism is just Tribalism on a grand scale, then Nationalism.
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>>1990202
Are they often used interchangeably then?

Since you mention tribalism, does that mean that nationalism has an ethnic basis?
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>>1990191
Patriotism if you think of City States and Confederacies.

Otherwise what >>1990202 said. Though IMHO tribalism is below Nationalism since you can have tribes in a given nation centering their entire identity on the tribe without giving a fuck about the nation.
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>>1990214
>Are they often used interchangeably then
Maybe today when words have little meaning, but not really.

>does that mean that nationalism has an ethnic
Yes, exclusively. This might actually be the difference between them.

They might be the same in a country that's nearly homogenous, but not in a multiculturalist one.

For example, Whites and Blacks and Mexicans can be Patriotic Americans, but Whites, Blacks, and Mexicans all have their separate nationalist movements.
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>>1990214
Are you retarded?
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>>1990236
Yes.
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