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Why didnt Mesoamericans and Andeans conquer other natives?

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Why didnt Mesoamericans and Andeans conquer other natives?
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....they did
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they did...
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.... Umm most other natives didn't even know who Aztecs/ Mayas/Incans were
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...they did
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>>1985697
they did and the spanish profited from it, making alliances with butthurt tributaries
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They did

In the north as much as euros because there was so much space, but that changed with the horse.
Comanches went conquering.
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>>1985697
Mesoamericans are not a single group of people. Its a composition of various city-states and tribal chiefdoms, ranging from urbanized to semi-sedentary people of dozens of different ethnic groups and language families. So most of the conquest was among each other. Just as Europe was never under one groups control, Mesoamerica was never under the control of one group. Some came close like the Aztecs, but they still had a ways to go. Perhaps if they had horses they would have been able to conquer even farther away lands too, but that's speculation.
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>>1986756
Mesoamericans only comquered their neighbors. They have an asian mindset to expand and incorporate concentrically rather than to expand and incorporate far off places.
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>>1986922
>Concentrically

What do you mean? I've never heard of this idea before, can you elaborate?
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They lacked the means to project force. Also once there the general they sent could easily set up his own little fiefdom so there would have been no net returns from such an epic undertaking.
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>>1986922
Well this is kinda untrue of the Nahuas. The Toltecs for example went and spread their religion as far as they could. They were also big of trading and their merchants often founded colonies in far away lands. One may have gone as far south as Panama. The Aztecs were also very expansionist, Ahuizotl himself felt it was a dream for his people to conquer the whole world. The only reason he stopped leading his campaign in the east, was because his soldiers had been away from their home for so long and were weary. But there were plans to conquer Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua.
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>>1986943
>>1986971
They only conquered people that were similar. They could have conquerer thr hunter gatherers north of them but they were too arrogant.
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>>1985697

they did, as many as their stone age weapons would allow.
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They were generally loosely populated in the north and often nomadic. They didn't have complex government organizations and large city states.
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>>1985697
You realize america is fucking big and they haven't horses. They conquered as far as they came walking
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>>1985697
>Why didnt Mesoamericans and Andeans conquer other natives?
Not to go full Jared Diamond on here, but I have a feeling geographical reasons and the lack of horses limited the potential area Incas or Mesoamericans could conquer. Though surely there must be additional factors other than those.
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Me >>1987884
>and the lack of horses
Maybe not actually.
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>>1987826
> they were too arrogant.

Or there was simply nothing to plunnder.
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>>1987826
>too arrogant to conquer people you think are lesser than you
How the fuck does that even make sense?
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>>1985697
mountain ridges
huge plains
dense jungles
neither horses nor sea fleets
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>>1985697
They were pretty occupied with themselves. They were never under one central government or authority so they never really made it that far.
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>>1985697
The incans conquered some amazonian tribes, and didn't an inca emperor sailed and conquered some unknown faraway islands?
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