what were some actual terrible tragedies? no Holocaust please

>>1983274
None. We live in the best of all possible worlds.

>>1983280
can't do that I'm doing a report

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>>1983274
The Chinks literally killed Jesus' half brother

>>1983274
China's history, the whole bunch

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>>1983274
>actual terrible tragedies

>>1983274
Pol Pot in Cambodia.
The 30 year war.
Burning down *the* library.

>>1983274
I always feel like the Cambodian genocide under Pol Pot is an underrepresented tragedy. Read a couple memoirs of survivors (which I highly recommend) and it was seriously SO BAD.
What makes it so gruesome is that everyone who died died so horrifically. Thousands starved in the countryside or died on dirty mattresses without medical equipment from things like diarrhea. Or you got executed with a hammer or pickaxe after being brutally tortured for weeks at a "prison." Something like 12,000 people were sent to S21 (the most notorious prison) and only seven are known to have survived

>>1983274

The Plague of Justinian didn't just devastate what remained of the Empire, it also destroyed the neo-Roman civilization of Britain, opening the door to the settlement of Britain by the savage English and consigning the Romano-Britons to the dustbin of history, aka, Wales.

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>>1983274
9/11

I can't believe you forgot

>>1983645
this

Anything to do with the Mongols and their perverse butterfly effect on history

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>>1983678
Don't forget about the baby smashing tree

>>1983678
>I always feel like the Cambodian genocide under Pol Pot is an underrepresented tragedy.

Couldn't agree more. But compare it to the holocaust where you have people denying it. There *were* people such as Chomsky that refused to believe that what happen in Cambodia possibly could be as bad as they were told. And then it turned out it was. And that was it. These days you won't find anyone defending what happen in Cambodia.

It's also not part of western history so there's that.

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I see genocides as the greatest tragedy, so the worst one is mass deaths of the americas I guess.

Not hard to find other tragedies though.
Burning of books and the sacking of cities never sit right with me.

>>1984326
I think it's still considered to be the worst human rights record of any government in history.

Like, you're going to have to look hard to find another government that killed 25% of the countries entire population in 4 years.

Roman Empire converting to Christianity.

Arabian Expansion.

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the martyrdom of imam hussain at karbala

>>1984329
>I see genocides as the greatest tragedy, so the worst one is mass deaths of the americas I guess

The deaths of 90% of the native population to diseases is also somewhat bizarre because a lot of it wasn't even deliberate, and were spread by people who had no idea about diseases and how they worked

The Shoah

>>1984354
Ah right intent.
I still count it as the greatest tragedy, but I concede that it wasn't wholly genocidal since people didn't always know they were spreading diseases.

The Norman conquest of England.

1755 Lisbon Earthquake was suposedly so terrible that turned François Marie Arouet from Leibnizian optimist into the Voltaire.

>>1984390
The Voltaire we know*.

>>1984390
I think the greatest shock was that such a terrible could happen in such a devout Christian country.

>>1984326
>These days you won't find anyone defending what happen in Cambodia.
Part of the reason is probably that nobody uses the Red Khmer to discredit Cambodia or socialism as a whole. I feel like Holocaust denial became such a huge thing because of how often it's used as an example why nationalism/fascism/Germany/whatever is evil, which is bound to alienate parts of the right wing.

>>1983645

tragic

(slav-akia)

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>>1983274
>As reported by Count Harrach, Franz Ferdinand's last words were "Sophie, Sophie! Don't die! Live for our children!" followed by six or seven utterances of "It is nothing," in response to Harrach's inquiry as to Franz Ferdinand's injury. These utterances were followed by a long death rattle. Sophie was dead on arrival at the Governor's residence. Franz Ferdinand died 10 minutes later.

Whatever your opinions of Franz Ferdinand that is a pretty sad way to go.

>>1983274
that no one destroyed the moon rock the muslims dance around...

>>1984487
>Kaiser Willhelm and Franz Ferdinand were best buds
>the three of them would spend weeks together enjoying themselves while their families ostracized and judged them
>they didn't care, they had eachother
>suddenly your only two friends in the whole world get gunned down in the street by a cowardly assassin
>when you demand justice your pathetic family laughs and chastises you

>you will never lose your best friends
>you will never do anything possible, even if it meant seeing the entire world burn, just to avenge them

Kaiser Bill... had a hard life

Like, half of history my dude.
Armenian genocide, Chernobyl, Pompeii, Hindenburg, titanic, sand creek, wounded knee, burning of the library of Alexandria, triangle t shirt factory fire, chicago fire,SS camorta sinking, 1922 typhoon in china,pearl harbor, assassination of lincoln, assassination of kennedy, etc, etc

>>1984886
WW1

>38 million people died horrific deaths for nothing
>caused the Bolshevik revolution and WW2

>>1983274
The emergence of the Germans

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The Albigensian Crusade

>>1983274
Most of the events people listed here are more like a farce or a sick twisted comedy, rather than a real life tragedy. Come on, /his/.

>>1983280

Thanks Pangloss.

>>1984939
This is a tragedy thread not a blessing thread
>>1984445
Maybe it's because the math doesn't add up and witness testimony is a joke

>>1984326

>a jew disbelieving that a genocide was happening while siding with an authoritarian regime

Something just ain't adding up here

The islamisation of Afghanistan
The deluge and thirty year war
WW1
Bolshewism in Asia generally

Spanish Civil War,

>>1983274
>no Holocaust please

if you don't believe the holocaust happened then why do believe any other terrible tragedies may have occurred in history?

>>1984691
edgy

Communism.

>>1983274
James Buchanan's life.
That president needs a movie about his failed love and how he became known as the worst president ever.

>>1983274
The Red Khmers' terror. One third of the Cambodian population died; some were violently bashed to death after being forced to dig their own graves, etc. and a lot of people also died of starvation and illness... terrible times. And it happened just 37 years ago.

>>1984333
I agree.

>>1984445
May very well be the case.

>>1986962
Holocaust is "baby's first tragedy" and a pleb's choice of human catastrophes.

>>1983274
Invention of agriculture

Never forget 1453

>>1983274
The genocide perpetrated by Indonesia against East Timor. It's often overlooked, since Indonesia was (sort of) an American ally in the region against Communism, and it was contemporaneous with both(!) the Cambodian and Rwandan genocides.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_occupation_of_East_Timor

>>1983274
Zhang Xianzhong and the extermination of Sichuan.

>Heaven brings forth innumerable things to nurture man.
>Man has nothing good with which to recompense Heaven.
>Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.

Accounts from the time reported that he killed over a hundred times more people than even lived in his lands! Oy vey, remember the 600 million!