What was the point of Vichy France?

keep french happy, reduce resistance and lower administration clutter

they used the shitty south though so they still controlled the important parts

ps
petain did nothing wrong, he was a realistic but patriotic man

>>1979747
you might disagree if you were a jewish frenchman

>>1979729
To create a Fascist French rump state that was theoretically independent and sovereign, thus theoretically continuing to control the French colonial empire. See, if Germany had destroyed France outright it's likely that North Africa, the Levant, etc, would have gone straight over to the Free French. This also allowed the Germans to avoid having to manage the occupation of France, since that could just be offloaded onto the Vichy government.

I'm not aware of what the German post-war plans were for France. Presumably they'd loose all German claims and would become a defanged puppet state with a military only large enough to manage it's remaining colonies.

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>>1979729
Not having to occupy the whole country
Germans were terrified by the thought of French civilian resistance ever since they first experienced it in 1871
It's what caused the brutal "pre-emptive" actions against civilians in Belgium during WW1

Turns out that, unlike what they expected, they didn't have much to fear about 1940s French though
WW1 had killed their fighting spirit

>>1979758
But anon that's an oxymoron.

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>>1979786
>Germans were terrified by the thought of French civilian resistance
So much that they fucked French women and French just sat in the corner like a cuck, crying.

>>1979758
>pétain doesn't become leader
>someone much worse who actually hates jews takes his place
>better
???

>>1979786
>Turns out that, unlike what they expected, they didn't have much to fear about 1940s French though
Eisenhower estimated the french resistance to have been worth 150k men, in the help they gave to the americans before, during and after Normandy.

>>1979930
Yeah but then the occupation of Germany happened and France was redeemed.

>>1979786
French resistance during WWII was actually more, than significant.

>>1979984
>>1979955
https://youtu.be/YO-Ocueehfc

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>>1979984
It didn't even exist.

>>1980001
really looks like a neutral, unbiased article senpai

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>>1979930
Well memed
German troops were actually not allowed to fuck regular women, and the German army mounted brothel with prostitutes

>>1980007
>article

Dude literally wrote it on MS word

>>1980027
>German troops were actually not allowed to fuck regular women
Does that mean they didn't do it, you fucking imbecile?

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>>1979930

Right back at you, krautroach.

God, the idea of German scum getting raped and murdered gets me hard like nothing else haha.
Though I guess that's how it is these days too.

>>1979930
Then we filled every german women with our cum, we emptied our balls so much that some of us grew impotent. And from today onwards Western Germans are French rape babies while Eastern germans are Russians rape babies

>>1980055
>>1980053
>>1979930
>a high level of discourse

>>1980053
>>1980055
lol'd at that butthurt.

i'm actually a polack. i just hate french scum.

>>1980066
Poles have no right to be giving out shit on getting conquered and putting up an insignificant resistance.

>>1980066

same shit happened to your whores too, slavshit, except germans and russians took turns fucking your sows before slitting their throats.

>>1980045
It means that it certainly didn't happen en masse like in your cuck fantasies

>>1980073
>putting up an insignificant resistance.
Krauts shitted in their pants when they enetered a Polish forest.

Guess why.
>>1980074
I don't give a shit lol. I'm not nationalistic, you french swarthy cockroach.

>>1980073
You're still our pape babies since we raped you during the Grand Napoleonic Rape-Conquest of Europe.

>>1980085
Because they thought they saw a Russian?

Pretty sure Poles did and still have the same reaction.

>>1980074
The difference is that polish men got cucked by the Germans for 5 years and then by the Russians for 5 decades

>>1980096
And yet genetically Poland is the same as in 966.

While France has shitton of African and Arab admixture lmao

>>1980096

kek

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>this entire thread

>>1980066
>>1980074
>>1980085
>>1980090
>>1980096
>>1980097
fucking int

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ITT

Just don't blow up anything.

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>>1980090
I'm British so thankfully neither Napoleon nor the Nazis got their filthy hands on my slag ancestors.

>>1980097
Polish are basically Russians anyway, so they could as well be cucked for 5000 years and there would be zero difference.

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>>1980097
>While France has shitton of African and Arab admixture lmao
Nope we don't but you, you have a shitton of Turkish-Greek-Arab-Mongoloid admixture.

>>1980106
You were Polish a few posts ago
Well, I guess the two arent mutually exclusive
Brits import a lot of Poles to clean their toilets and fuck their wives

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>>1980107
The opposite you illiterate imbecile.
>>1980108
What the fuck are you talking about lol

>>1980097
And also culturally the same as in 966

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FRENCH ASSHURT 3...2..1

>>1980108
Pic related show negroid influence(lips, nose, and forehead), mongoloid influence(jaw, eyes), and arab influence(eyebrows)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Righteous_Among_the_Nations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BBegota
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_Jews_by_Poles_during_the_Holocaust
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_resistance_movement_in_World_War_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_contribution_to_World_War_II#Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_contribution_to_World_War_II#Intelligence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_contribution_to_World_War_II#Polish_Forces_.28West.29

Meanwhile in France:
>French women fuck German soldiers
>French are outstanding citizens of the Third Reich
>no Partisan activities worth noticing happen
>Jews are sold to Germans

>>1980122
That's it, from now on I stop using forks
Always thought it looked dumb anyway, and it's unpractical when eating snails

>>1980114
I'm not. If you re-read my posts you'll notice that I was replying to the Pole and making shit of him.

>Brits import a lot of Poles to clean their toilets and fuck their wives
More like to get fucked considering how many whores are Polish.

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>>1980131
sure thing, small-dicked crooked tooth

>>1980126
>France is free after WW2
>Poland gets PIDORASHKAD.com after WW2
So much for that resistance.

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>>1980115
>What the fuck are you talking about lol
Merely algerian immigrants, they live among themselves and we don't mix with them like you did with the mongoloid.

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>>1980126

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>>1980137
When you have such shit allies as France and UK.

Everything is possible. Even losing the war when you have more army than your enemy.

Pic related.

>>1980138
French are swarthy apes and everyone knows it.

>>1980135
>Import loads of blacks in order to beat the British penis size by 0.2 centimetres
Genius plan, Pierre.

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>>1980126
Hmmm...

>>1980148
that's WWI you retard.

Poles fought for Imperial Army.

>>1980142
Nice language, Wyzcklzoslav

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>>1980146
Nice try poonigger but we have more nordic influence than you.
You're just subhuman mongoloid, while we are the noble descents of the Franks and the Gaullish who both ruled Europe, we're the chosen race of Europe.

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You know how Poles call:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syphilis

FRANCA

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>>1980147
Are you trying to imply that Britain has significantly less blacks than France?
Because it doesnt

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>>1980149
>it's in WW1 that we were cucked so it's okay

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>>1980161
WE WUZ NORDIK

literally nigger-tier we-wuzing. fits you, french ape

>>1980165
Because it arrived to Poland through Frenchmen fucking local wives

>>1980167
Poles and Germans were the same people for centuries before countries even existed.
Prussians had Western Slavic roots.

Do you want more?
>>1980172
No, it was actually Polish king that got sick from his French wife.

>>1980166
That would imply I was implying France has significantly bigger dicks than Britain which I wasn't.

Well they had over 1m POWs that they kept as hostages to ensure good behavior by the vichy govt, and they didn't want to garrison the whole country. Plus France still had a shitload of imperial holdings that the vichy government took care of, further reducing the administrative burden on the germans.

where're the jannies when you need them? just delete this trashpile of a thread

Reminder that France resurrected Pooland into existance in 1807 and 1918, and died trying to save Pooland in 1940, yet poles still hate them

Is there a more ungrateful people on Earth?

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>>1980170
LMAO

Stay made Poogonloid mongrel

>>1980192
That's bullshit though.

All of it.

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>>1980137
Poland gets to exchange shitty lands with lazy and disloyal Eastern Slavs for German land magically cleared from Germans with all that juicy infrastructure in place. As a result Poland gets to be a monoethnical state with Poles making 99% of the population. Totally worth it.

>>1980192
Don't forget americans that exist because French and still have a guts to joke about them.

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>>1980202
>juicy infrastructure in place.

>>1980198
It isnt

>1807
>France defeats Prussia and Russia and make them cede lands to create the Duchy of Warsaw

>1918
>France defeats Germany and make them cede lands to recreate Pooland

>1940
>France declares war on Germany too save Pooland that once again got cucked by the Germans, but this time gets BTFO in the process

>>1980207
And Poland would be under Russia in 15 without them.

>>1980210
>1807
>France

>1918
Imperial Germany created Poland during war. Poles acquaired indepdence from all three countries.
France had nothing to do with it, you imbecile.

>1940
France didn't do shit to even fight. Worthless whore nation.

>>1980209
Soviet bombs can't melt German ordnung, at least there was something to restore.

>Be Poland
>Get saved by France (twice)
>Hate France
>Get saved by Russia
>Hate Russia
>Get rescued from economic oblivion by the EU
>Refuse to co-operate with the EU and just expect more and more handouts.

Is there a more ignoble people on this Earth?

>>1980222
see >>1980212


You stupid baiting fuck

>>1980222
> Get saved by Russia
What...

>>1980222
They're an abomination, hopefully Putin wil soon solve the Poolish Question, and there will be no French to help them this time.

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>>1980222
Why doesnt the EU just kick Poland out?
They drain the money to build big jesus statues...

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>>1980243

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>>1980244

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>>1980248

>>1980236
Same reason why they can't just kick out the refugees.

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>>1980236
muh eu moniez XD

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>>1980223
P*les absolutely refuse to acknowledge the generosity of their neighbours. Even though without them their hopelessly polluted pseudo-race would have been wiped out long ago.

The P*le is an insidious cretin. It does not acknowledge that Napoleonic France returned Poland's independence. It does not acknowledge that Russia saved them from certain doom at the hands of the Nazis. It does not acknowledge that without the EU Poland would be Africa tier. They do not know how to appreciate let alone return kindness.

Is there room in their brain for anything besides hate and WEWUZery?

>>1980229
Without Russia Poland would have been ethnically cleansed and incorporated into Germany.

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>>1980257
That image doesn't make any sense.

>Poland suffered catastrophic damage to its infrastructure during the war, which caused it to lag even further behind the West in its industrial output.[11] The losses in national resources and infrastructure amounted to over 30% of the pre-war potential.[11] Poland's capital of Warsaw was among the most devastated cities – over 80 percent destroyed in the aftermath of the Warsaw Uprising of 1944.[12] Nonetheless, resulting from forced migration, there was a rapid increase in population to 23.9 million shown in the first post-war census of 14 February 1946.[13] The Polish state acquired more highly developed western territories and lost the more economically backward eastern regions. Already in 1948 the prewar level of industrial production was exceeded in global and per capita terms during the first Three-Year Plan (Plan Trzyletni) fueled by the collective desire to rebuild shattered lives.[14]

>After the Soviet annexation of the Kresy territories east of the Curzon line, about 2 million Poles were "repatriated" (moved or were transferred or expelled) from these areas into the new western and northern territories east of the Oder-Neisse line,[20][21]

> In 1947 Soviet pressure caused the Polish government to reject the American-sponsored Marshall Plan,[16] and to join the Soviet Union-dominated Comecon in 1949.[17] The Soviet forces present engaged in plunder of the former eastern territories of Germany which were being transferred to Poland, stripping it of valuable industrial equipment, infrastructure and factories and sending them to the Soviet Union.[18][19]

>importing polish coal from mines in silesia for free for 40 years
>importing meat from poland for free while the polish starved
>"""""rebuilding"""""""

>>1980260
Russians did the same as Germans and in some cases even worse.

>>1980262
Russians gave Poland their own state and didn't try to exterminate them.

I understand Poland is super-butthurt about Russia. But it's inescapable that thanks to Russia they got the better of two fates.

>>1980276
>and didn't try to exterminate them.

>"In addition to the thousands who fell in battle, 128 men were hanged personally by Mikhail Muravyov ('Muravyov the Hangman'), and 9423 people were exiled to Siberia (2500 according to low Russian data estimates, Norman Davies gives the number of 80,000 noting it was the single largest deportation in Russian history).[5] Whole villages and towns were burned down; all activities were suspended and the szlachta was ruined by confiscation and exorbitant taxes. Such was the brutality of the Russian troops that their actions were condemned throughout Europe, and even in Russia itself Muravyov became ostracized.[6] Count Fyodor Berg, the newly appointed Namestnik of Poland, followed in Muravyov's footsteps, employing inhumanly harsh measures against the country."

>"After the collapse of the uprising, harsh reprisals followed. According to Russian official information, 396 persons were executed and 18,672 were exiled to Siberia. Large numbers of men and women were sent to the interior of Russia and to Caucasus, Urals and other sections. Altogether about 70,000 persons were imprisoned and subsequently taken out of Poland and stationed in remote regions of Russia."

>>1980276
>>1980281
>"The government confiscated 1,660 estates in Poland and 1,794 in Lithuania. A 10% income tax was imposed on all estates as a war indemnity. Only in 1869 was this tax reduced to 5% on all incomes. Serfdom was abolished in Russian Poland on 19 February 1864. It was deliberately enacted in a way that would ruin the szlachta. It was the only area where peasants paid the market price in redemption for the land (the average for the empire was 34% above the market price). All land taken from Polish peasants since 1846 was to be returned without redemption payments. The ex-serfs could only sell land to other peasants, not szlachta. 90% of the ex-serfs in the empire who actually gained land after 1861 were in the eight western provinces. Along with Romania, Polish landless or domestic serfs were the only ones to be given land after serfdom was abolished."

>"All this was to punish the szlachta's role in the uprisings of 1830 and 1863. Besides the land granted to the peasants, the Russian Government gave them additional forest, pasture and other privileges (known under the name of servitutes) which proved to be a source of incessant irritation between the landowners and peasants in the following decades, and an impediment to economic development.[citation needed] The government took over all the church estates and funds, and abolished monasteries and convents. With the exception of religious instruction, all other studies in the schools were ordered to be in the Russian. Russian also became the official language of the country, used exclusively in all offices of the general and local government. All traces of former Polish autonomy were removed and the kingdom was divided into ten provinces, each with an appointed Russian military governor and all under complete control of the Governor General in Warsaw. All former Polish government functionaries were deprived of their positions and replaced by Russian officials."

>>1980281
>>1980284
>"A rule of terror was started by the NKVD and other Soviet agencies. The first victims were the approximately 230,000 Polish prisoners of war.[17] The Soviet Union had not signed any international convention on rules of war and they were denied the status of prisoners of war. When the Soviets conducted recruitment activities among the Polish military, an overwhelming majority of the captured officers refused to cooperate; they were considered enemies of the Soviet Union and a decision was made by the Soviet Politburo (5 March 1940) to secretly execute them (22,000 officers and others).[84] The officers and a large number of ordinary soldiers[85] were then murdered (see Katyn massacre) or sent to Gulag.[86] Of the 10,000-12,000 Poles sent to Kolyma in 1940–41, most POWs, only 583 men survived, released in 1941–42 to join the Polish Armed Forces in the East.[87]"

>"Terror policies were also applied to the civilian population. The Soviet authorities regarded service for the prewar Polish state as a "crime against revolution"[89] and "counter-revolutionary activity",[90] and subsequently started arresting large numbers of Polish intelligentsia, politicians, civil servants and scientists, but also ordinary people suspected of posing a threat to Soviet rule. Schoolchildren as young as 10 or 12 years old who laughed at Soviet propaganda presented in schools were sent into prisons, sometimes for as long as 10 years.[65]

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>>1980276
>>1980281
>>1980284
>>1980287
>The prisons soon became severely overcrowded with detainees suspected of anti-Soviet activities and the NKVD had to open dozens of ad hoc prison sites in almost all towns of the region.[69][82] The wave of arrests led to forced resettlement of large categories of people (kulaks, Polish civil servants, forest workers, university professors or osadniks, for instance) to the Gulag labor camps.[68] The Polish and formerly Polish citizens, a large proportion of whom were ethnic minorities, were deported mostly in 1940, typically to northern Russia, Kazakhstan and Siberia.[41][91]

>Following the Operation Barbarossa and the Sikorski–Mayski agreement, in the summer of 1941 the exiled Poles were released under the declared amnesty. Many thousands trekked south to join the newly formed Polish Army, but thousands were too weak to complete the journey or perished soon afterwards.[92]

>According to a 2009 estimate by IPN, around 150,000 Polish citizens died as a result of the Soviet occupation.[44][45] The number of deportees was estimated at around 320,000.[44][45]"

>>1980276
> Russians gave Poland their own state and didn't try to exterminate them.
To be fair, Russian government tried to forcible assimilate Poles during 19th century.

>>1980281
That's not a genocide. That's typical Russian behaviour that they were just as fond of doing to their own people.

Now THESE are genocides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht#Mass_murder_of_Polish_civilians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen#Invasion_of_Poland

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>>1980304
>russians
>people

>>1980296
That's true. But I'm not saying the Russian empire did Poland any favours.

>>1980222
Even in online games such as cs go they are the absolute shittiest people.

>>1980106
>I'm British

Ugliest breed of whites by far. Being on an island was good for national defense but bad for genetics.

>>1980321
Maybe you're a shitty person for playing shitty games.

>>1979729
Just from looking at the map, I'm going to guess that they didn't want to overstretch their occupation forces in France when all that was really probably important for Germany was control over the West coast. The Free Zone was submissive to Germany while making direct occupation and administration unnecessary, allowing the Germans to make better use of their armed forces.

>>1980001

Look at " Enfants de boche "

>>1980256
>price of cigarettes

Can you faggots fuck off to /int/ to have your irrelevant country vs. irrelevant country fights?

>>1980172
DELETE THIS

>>1980001
>80-100k
That's statistically insignificant