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Why they are still fighting?

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This is the current status of Syria. Green in Al-qaeda, Black ISIS, Blue Israel, Red Syrian, dark green Rebels and Turkey and yellow Kurds.

At the start of game it was only rebels, now it is a mess.

Consider it is 1862, what if in US civil war England decided to attack from the north or Mexico from south. If you are on the weak side you would try to ally with foreign just to win? Or you would change the direction of your guns to defend your country?


I accept that it is not a fair comparison. In Syria the amount of foreign pressure and funding for war is huge. However, I don't understand the reason the real rebels AKA free Syrian army is still continuing to fight.
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For sick bantz innit
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PNAC
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>>1971325
>Blue Israel
Isn't that just the Golan Heights? they've controlled that since 1967
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>>1971325
Fourth generation warfare.
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It is common in middle east to consider extraordinary powers for any western power. However, from outside it seem that they want to be played with.

The leader are corrupted. Real people are just ignorant.
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That is another interesting factor. Rebels, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, never made any real attempt to attack Israeli controlled area.

They just love easy targets.
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And what all these countries want in a country with no precious resources or any strategic importance?

Is it a now a war game playground for world militants?
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Assad protects his country, US and allies sponsor terrorists which means Assad has to keep on fighting terrorists.
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>>1971325
American foreign policy demands it, they must unseat Russian aligned Assad. Should be interesting when Trump gets the chair though
>>1971339
Gib clay
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>>1971390
It is an ideological war, and a war of projecting power. If the US backed rebels win out, it will make Russia look weak. If the Russian backed Syrian gov't win out, the US will look weak. If the Kurds win out, Turkey will be pissed and have a shitty next door neighbor who leaves paper bags filled with dog poop on fire in front of their house, and if ISIS wins out we are stuck with the international equivalent of a splinter in our thumb for another 5 or so years.
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>>1971403
This
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>>1971374
They were going to attack a soccer game just last week until they got MOSSADED.COM
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>>1971402
That is true. The people are fragmented.
I think the same could be said about Palestinian-Israeli problem.
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>>1971407
>American foreign policy demands it
Lol, not anymore. Trump does not give a fuck about letting Assad win. He doesnt have to swallow his pride and admit he was wrong like Obama and Hilldog
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>>1971409
>If the US backed rebels win out
ha! nice joke anon!
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>>1971459
>he still thinks trump won't be an empty figurehead who is planning on spending most of his time as POTUS in trump tower watching TV as Pence and his neocon christfag buddies run the show

I feel bad for you son.
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>>1971463
so basically W. Bush 2.0
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>>1971409
One good change would be to redefine US-Russian relationship. If they stop playing chess in middle east the mess could be controllable.

Now it is only empowering a serial killer's type of ideology. Nobody is winning.
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>>1971476
The problem is this conflict between two nuclear powers is prisoner's dilemma. And one where peace is not very rewarding. If one side unilaterally says they're going to be isolationist, that's a huge win for the other side, as they can expand their sphere of influence with no opposition.
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>>1971484
>appoints bolton
heh
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>>1971325
Light Green is all rebels, excluding Kurds and Isis. Dark Green is just Turkey
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>>1971484
Well, this is hard to happen in Iran. Most of middle east borders drawn by Lawrence in early 20 century. Iran's have been there for a long time. Stability in Iran is fixed by cultural and national bonds. It is similar to lots of ancient countries, you can finds lots of ethnicities but general they are more connected to each other than newly founded countries.

Separation of Azerbaijan is more like a joke. Iran's supreme leader and lots of high officials and powerful businessmen are from there, why separate when you are literally ruling the whole country?
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>>1971509
Al-nusra is Al Qaeda type of rebels.
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>>1971325
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>>1971532
From bitter lake by Adam Curtis
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>>1971390
>10, Bahrain
>in the Great Lakes region
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>>1971532

>but this was a fantasy
[Drive soundtrack intensifies]
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>>1971553
>Then explain the recent attacks against ...
Not serious, mostly foreign funded with low local support. Although I accept that there are problems. But is it not more serious than turkey's problem with Kurds or Russian's in Chechen. It is manageable.
>It wasn't a joke back in the 40's..
Well, that was soviet invasion. But it failed just after russian troops left. It lasted only one year.
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>>1971337
But it destabilized
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>>1971517
Yeah, I know. The map doesn't make a difference between them and the other rebel groups
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Civil wars are always a mess.
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>>1971667
I couldn't agree more. People immigrate to US and just after one year of their citizenship they call themselve American. But in these three countries they have been citizen and part of country for more than 1000 years and still they think they are different.

Unfortunately US has been constantly choosing wrong allies recently.
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>>1971532
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>>1971462
It is entirely possible. They've pulled it off in the past. Now, whether or not that will be good is something else altogether, but I imagine that your post was a shitpost because you disagree with US interventionism ideologically.
>>1971476
It is hard to bring the two at a conference table, especially considering the core conflicts at even the basic levels of society, such as the LGBT rights and other social issues.

Not only that, but you have both countries fearing that if they let up pressure on their opponent, they would use that to their advantage and propagate their own form of government and values outside of their borders.

Also, >>1971498
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>>1971325
>Expecting sand gypsies to maintain states.
When haven't there been refugees fleeing about in the region?
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