What does a person owe his country?

>>1971195
Everything.

>>1971195
The answer is in proportion to what a country does for its people.

>>1971195
Nothing, your country owes you and you better make sure you get what you are entitled to.
>free education
>free health care
>unemployment money
>child support
and all the other benefits of modern welfare.

>>1971195
Country is too vague a term. You should be asking what does a person owe his State, and his People.

>>1971213
Okay answer that then.

>>1971205

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>>1971207
So in turn, you should provide those things for the next lot of people right?

>>1971216
Only if you are a rich capitalist pig and have not other means, then yes. Otherwise it is enough if you enrich your society by just doing what you do, like art and poetry.

Given the absurd hedonistic actions of one's own parents in their creation of thyself, brought virtually into an existence of suffering, one must give EVERYTHING to their nation as it is their nation which has allowed their survival to be that less insufferable. It is that nation which through their labour, taxes, decisions and culture has allowed one's life to become less detestable and one of worth and unimaginable capability!

A man owes everything to his nation and his nation owes everything to him.

>>1971195
Taxes

>>1971207
This is the correct post.

You can't have any obligation to the country since you don't choose to be born there, and travelling between countries is difficult. Not to mention that you may not like any of the countries in world. Therefore it's not a consensual arrangement.

However the government chooses to exist, and the only reason it should exist is to support it's people. Anything else, and it's a heirarchy that just wants to perpetuate itself. So therefore a proper and moral government would strive to support any that are born in it.

>>1971467
This implies no choice of birth would change the worth of an individual under many before the capabilities of those who project power because they exell at it.

>>1971587
Sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying.

>>1971196
Don't be fooled, this faggot is just trying to prove something to himself

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Only what he can be forced to owe

>>1971467

What if the majority of the people the government owes its support to don't really like you though? What if they vote to cut off your access to those benefits?

Is it still moral and proper to adhere to that will?

>>1971195
Nothing. Everything you receive is already paid for by everyone else, who did so following their own interests and/or ideals.

You don't owe your country anything, but you need it unless you manage to get adopted by another. You can't survive in space without a ship.

>>1973345
Wisdom
But what if it's in someone's self interest to give to a nation?

>>1973477
>moral

>>1973641

Just using his words, anon.

>>1971195
POO

>>1971205
You owe what you were given that helps you achieve your aims.

>>1971195
Taxes.

being or being not a wholly adapted human being.

>>1973632
You already know the answer to that.

>>1971195
no one owes anyone anything

>>1974806
in

>>1975180
Hmmm... so a mother owes her baby nothing?

>>1975487
She doesn't.
Which is why abortion (post or pre natal) is completely ethical