Puritan appreciation thread

The only good christfag is a catholic christfag, and that's just because of the aesthetic. Catholics have an actual interesting culture, centuries of tradition, and some pretty fucking good art, some of which still being pumped out by their currently-practicing members. Puritans haven't contributed any art that's worth anything, and as philosophers they stand out as the autists of their time. Puritan poetry is fucking garbage. I haven't heard of any Puritan architecture, painting, music, or anything, and I assume that's because it's all utterly unmemorable. So when puritans have nothing to offer philosophically, culturally, or politically, why the fuck should I even think about them as if they existed, let alone consider them "underrated" as you do?

I await your answer

>>1958752

Have you read Jonathan Edwards? They laid the foundation of American literature and philosophy, especially Emerson and later, the Pragmatists.
I personally prefer their plain taste to the decadence of late Catholicism.

Not that it matters much. What art and philosophy did Sparta produce? Nothing, yet nevertheless, Sparta was the model society for many philosophers, from Plato to Rousseau.

I like the balance they achieved politically and socially. Have you read Winthrop's Model of Christian Charity? They created a political system that both respected individuals while always putting the community's needs first...a nice mix of democracy and aristocracy.

>>1958870
I dont know, I found their poetry pretty terrible Its basically all self hate.

Puritans' literacy is refreshing at times, but their entire worldview was an anxious, uncertain mess. So many things killed the puritans suddenly and meaninglessly so they adopted a worldview with this alien, foreign God that could not be understood, and it assumed that people are entirely sinful except when god puts his special god juice in them.

It must have been IMPOSSIBLE to reason with them. They cemented that fear of one's fellow man that causes crazed isolationism and stuff; they are an interesting bunch but I think they are not to be admired.

>>1958752
Not OP but given that your taste in aesthetics is entirely a personal preference there's nothing to argue against. Furthermore the Puritans were only around for a little more than a century so it's not like they have a huge body of work to draw from. That isn't to say they didn't make cultural contributions, for example writers like Nathaniel Hawthorne wrote within the Puritan milieu and clergymen like Jonathan Edwards and John Winthrop exerted tremendous over American culture.

>>1958919
>calvinists
>uncertain worldview

wew

>>1958919
>Puritans believed in the absolute sovereignty of God.
And this is a problem why? When you realize that so much of the universe consists of things that could kill us at any given moment, the only rational belief systems are Calvinism or Atheism.

>>1960422
The hate Calvinists get is undeserved. They've solved so many theological issues by doing away with free will. It's unfortunate that other sects are so busy jerking off about free will and the infinite good of God.

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>Bounds were not set on enjoying sexuality within the bounds of marriage, as a gift from God.[55] In fact, spouses were disciplined if they did not perform their sexual marital duties,

>>1958722
They were cunts. Especially John Winthrope.

Puritans were pretty much the Christian Taliban. And that's a good thing.