How and why?

>>1957745
Rice.

Also the fact that they got the Green Revolution while still with a slightly more primitive attitude and access to contraception.

>>1957764
they were major population centers even before the green revolution dumbass.

>>1957772
Yeah, but smaller.

Contrast population growth in Europe and Asia during the 2nd half of the 20th century.


http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-region/

>>1957772
But he's right.
Rice is how they became major population centres. The green revolution together with industrialization population boom is why they kept being bigger.

>>1957799
Pretty sure it has more to do with agriculture being able to support larger populations than people fucking like rabbits.

>>1957745
That's bullshit, but I belive it.

Long periods of historical stability, prosperity, and health lead to high population numbers and density

China has had all three in spades for thousands of years and only until recent times with Taiping Rebellion, Second Sino-Japanese War, and Great Leap Forward have population numbers really slowed/dropped

Java and India were similar except for colonization but Britain and Netherlands were always more interested in trade and never conquering per se

Europe and West Africa would be the same density wise except for Black Death and Immigration to New World (population pressures were a huge problem in Europe in mid 1800s) and the Slave Trade, Lack of Political Unity, and the Pretty Much Neverending Plague

>>1957822
>That's bullshit, but I belive it.
No, it's actually true. There are almost 4b people in that area, and just 3.5b outside it.

>>1957808
Yeah, so why did population growth tail off in the West despite being well short of our carrying capacity?

Because social issues, like gender roles and contraception also affect population growth.

>>1957842
This must be the true power of The World!

>>1957842
not only that you could cut off borneo, tibet, mongolia, xin-qiang, russia, north korea and it'd still be accurate while only having 2/3s of the circle left

>>1957940
WRYYY

>>1957745
Interesting questions for sure, but I would add: how to bring fertility in those countries the fuck down? especially India

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>>1957940
amazing indeed

>>1957968
wrong thread i assume?

>>1957959
Better question is how to raise death rates

India seems to be finding that out already though

>>1957959
One Child Policy

>>1957959
It's already declining as they modernise.

It's 2.5 now.

>>1957959
you don't need to its already collapsing and will probably be well below Western rates for a while.

>>1957745
Collectivism

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>>1958057
>>1958081
the thing is once they stabilize, if they do, they will have wrecked their environment, driven tigers extinct, and will be a billion people aspiring to a higher status of living

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>>1957745
and people in the west say they shouldn't have kids because there are already too many people in the world

>>1958967
When "people" say that, what they really mean ist there shouldn't be more white people.

>>1958961
tigers are much better now than they were under the brits.
Successive governments have successfully followed policies of reforestation and sustainable green energy, and once thorioum power becomes a viable energy generation source the quality of life in india will skyrocket due to it having 40% of the world's thorium reserves.

On the other hand my whatsapp will be filled with shitty messages telling how everything good in India happened due to modi and glorious hindu rule.

So, its a mixed bag really.

>>1958057
its 2.3 as of last year, which because of India's skewed gender ratio means it is now at TFR levels.

>>1958081
Indian cities have some of the lowest birth rates in the world. Like below western europe tier.

>>1958961
Considering that India protects tigers and China is raising them in damn farms...they're kinda ok now.

>>1957745

Rice. It has two to three times the yields of wheat, AND it's more labor intensive to prepare, the combination gives you more people and higher levels of organisation, which in turn means yet more people.

>>1959146
>chinks raise tigers in farms.

>>1959165
How else would they make tiger penis a sustainable medicine? I've heard that and the insides of a newborn girl will cure just about anything.

>>1959127
Interesting about thorium. I'll take your word about tigers, and it's good to read that, and this >>1959130. Nevertheless, they (you?) are a fuckton of people already

>>1959201
that's right, they'll cure everything except for being a superstitious idiot gook

>>1959218
>superstition is bad because of my ideology
/his/ is just as awful as /sci/ wew

>>1957834
>China
>Stable
>Beyond last 50 years

>>1959261
The things he mentioned being the Taiping Rebellion, second sino-Japanese war and Great Leap Forward were all within a century before the last fifty years.

>>1957764
This

Another albeit small factor is that there was no Abrahamic birth control

>>1959220
>eating tiger penis will increase my libido.
this is as bad as the Indian government under Hindu nationalists saying that homosexuality is a western conspiracy and a lie.

>>1959216
you can look up project tiger if you like. Once India gets better you can come visit the Jim Corbett National park or the sunderbans or any other assorted wildlife sanctuary in India.

>tfw you are in a jeep and you see a motherfucking adult male bengal tiger cross the jungle trail in front of you.

And people say there isn't magic in this world.

>>1957834
stabilty? please, chinese have a knack for waging a war that lasts generations and decimates the population, every now and then

>>1959291
>abrahamic birth control
>pakistan is an islamic nation and is rapidly breeding like jihadi bunnies.

>>1959300
>Lasts for Generations
Top of my head, I can only think of the Three Memedoms (180-early 200s), the Nanbeichao Period (the entire 4th and 5th centures), the 5 Dynasties and 10 Kingdoms (first half of 900s AD) and the Jin-Song Wars (1100s to 1240)

If u noticed, there's kinda long periods of short wars and internal stability between them.

>>1959341
Didn't Three Kingdoms cause the population to drop 2/3 after the famines and the killings where done?

>>1957745
Because they are basically right next to the place agriculture developed.

And they have rice.

>>1959352
No, the dying happened during the Three Kingdoms.

Afterwards the Jin Dynasty took over.

Besides Chinese are notoriously bad at casualty calculation. Just see what happened during the T'ang Dynasty
>An Lushan Rebellion.
>Man that was bad, how many are dead?
>25,000,000 your majesty (China's population is 28 mil)
>HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET THOSE NUMBERS?
>We looked at all the villages and saw if they still existed. If they don't, it means they ded :DDD
>...
>Well, we still have a lot of subjects so I'm sure those figures are bullshit. Let's fix this dynasty for much of the 800s and let it collapse by 900s :P

>>1959163
Also you can actually get in 2 harvests a year rather than one.

>>1957834
>Pretty Much Neverending Plague

Was it not the same in India / China? Isnt that where plague comes from?

>>1959299
LGBT is a western concept but homosexual men fugging men as one example have been a thing since ever.

>>1957745
north china plain and indo gangetic plain

>>1959678
Neverending plague was everywhere

it came from ur mum

>>1958961
You know nothing about India, why do you pull facts out of your ass? Fuck you.

>>1959299
Kys

>>1959691
>it came from ur mum

And with the knowledge that I am the son of the mother of plagues you choose to raz me on the internet?

This is a bold step indeed.

>>1959685
>homosexuality is a mental disorder and against indian culture.
is literally their argument. Indian culture is perhaps the biggest meme there is.

>>1959711
> homosexuality is a mental disorder
Yeah... Like denying of marxism is also the one. :^)
Fuck people who invent mental illnesses on the spot to push their retarded agenda.

>>1959691
>Muh akhand bharat, muh strong hindutwa kultur, muh place in the sun
I bet you forward every whatsapp you receive that shows that India will become the richest country in the world if we stop buying foreign brands for a month.
kys and your retarded IT cell.

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>>1959716
India will become the richest country on earth by the end of this decade. Stop being insecure and just accept it; we won't genocide you, and whites will still be privileged cosmopolitans more akin to modern jews.

The U.S is hopelessly divided and will only continue to dwindle as its' institutions grow obsolete with the digital age. China will surpass the U.S, but collapse internally/stagnate due to an ageing population.

Civilisation started in India, and civilisation will peak in India.

Prove me wrong; you literally can't. Suck my dick

>>1959747
I'm sorry.

PPP

Can you please pause easy mode and turn on nominal GDP - if you cant measure your're wealth in Japan Manga figures what is the point?

>>1959747
> Nigeria
> 9
Is this Indian predictions or what?

>>1959747
Kill yourself you retarded bhakt. there are far too many people in india to be employed properly or be educated in a remotely useful manner.
>PPP
>in a globalized economy

of course bhakts are retarded. You want to go back to glorious past where every indian had their own UFO and went around the world with the power of gomutra. Jerking off to PPP is a fucking joke when 40% of the country suffers from chronic malnutrition and state governments decide to ban eggs in school because apparently chicken eggs come from the same holes birds shit from.

>>1959756
Nigeria is going to be a hell pit in 2050 - containing 3 of 10 of the worlds largest cities each city with a population larger than the current population of the UK.

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>>1959754
PPP is hard economic power while nominal GDP inevitably lags behind in terms of reflecting a countries true political-economic power by nature of economic modifiers. You wouldn't know because you're a pseud neckbeard, probably a libertarian too.

Point is, you haven't argued against my points. India will have the largest middle class, the largest labour pool, the largest working age university educated demographic in the world and we will become the mightiest country in the world by the dawn of this century.

Civilisation started in India, and civilisation will peak in India.

>>1959756
Nigeria has a massive population (170 mil~) that will continue booming for a while, a strong sense of national identity, and a (full serious) space program

>>1959762
State governments in the U.S ban eating oranges in the shower, gave spics and niggers cheat points for university, pass legislation on education so that the syllabi only includes the parts of WW1 and WW2 where America was directly involved (even in Russia they learn holistically about WW2 and the pacific war instead of just their perspective) as well as economic apologism for slavery

>>1959774
>a strong sense of national identity, and a (full serious) space program

Why does the north and south keep killing each other then?

What is Nigeria's greatest space achievement?

>>1959765
And the largest number of malourished laborers.
And the largest number of useless university educated "graduates" that will be non competitive in the modern economy

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/Only-10-MBA-graduates-employable-say-experts/articleshow/45846637.cms

India always is two steps from utter collapse and disaster largely due to short sighted HRD policies and coalition politics. It is more of a miracle that the country is actually functioning as a whole.

>>1959774
And american universities are ranked as the best in the world at the masters and Doctorate levels, are powerhouses of industrial research and help create far reaching technologies that change the world.

Meanwhile the Narenda Modi goverment is trying to inculcate "indian values" in school that will be decided by a bunch of old faggots who get off by watching people doing physical exercises in shorts.

Stop your penis boasting, I actually live in India. This place is shit and filled with retards that think that everything is going to get better while they sit on their asses all day.

>>1959765
>Point is, you haven't argued against my points.

>PPP is hard economic power while nominal GDP inevitably lags behind in terms of reflecting a countries true political-economic power by nature of economic modifiers. You wouldn't know because you're a pseud neckbeard, probably a libertarian too.

I am getting the feeling you do not understand the distinction between nominal and PPP.

>>1959792
don't.
He gets paid per post.

>>1959788
>And american universities are ranked as the best in the world at the masters and Doctorate levels, are powerhouses of industrial research and help create far reaching technologies that change the world.


Their top universities are one of the best. Their education system is a mess.

>>1959860
>is a mess.

is corrupt. its a shame because one section ruins the credibility of the whole.

>>1957745
RICE

>>1959299
>this is as bad as the Indian government under Hindu nationalists saying that homosexuality is a western conspiracy and a lie.
It is.

But regardless, learn to detect a joke you fucking autist. Back to /sci with you.

>>1957745
More like "people"
I can accept that chinks are people, but not pooinloos

>>1957772
A little edgy are we?

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>>1957842
>>1957940

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>>1959220
>unironically being superstitious
>disliking science

>>1960795
Science is a superstition.

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>>1960804
No it isn't. You are just an uneducated buffoon. If you don't like it then stop using electricity or antibiotics.

>>1960814
>ur uneducated if u dnt like my superstition

A superstition is any dogma around metaphysics. That is certainly what science is/

>>1960756
is that a jojo reference?

>>1960826
One methodolog, science,y is demonstrabbly better at discovering how the world works. You are just some religious nutjub butthurt that the evidence doesn't support your myths.

>>1960826

Then stop using all the things that science produces. Put your money where you're mouth is or shut the fuck up.

If you think science is a superstition and complete wrong, why don't you come up with a method of inquiry that's vastly superior to it? Could it be because you're in fact a fucking moron?

>>1960837
>demonstrably
>empiricism confirms empiricism
Evidence doesn't exist btw. Keep being fallacious though.
>>1960839
>will-to-truth

>>1960855
>science is bad for no other reason than it disagrees with me, just take my word for it
You are an idiot. But you think reality is an illusion so your demonstrable idiocy doesn't matter to you. Nothing matters to you, just your fairly tale land.

>>1960866
Reality is an ideology attached to existence.

Why are you dogmatists so loud?

>>1957940
populaton>tecnology

>>1957940
populaton>tecnology>cultre

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>>1959220
Do you even know what "superstition" means?

China gets a boost to population growth during golden ages.

>>1957745

i know it's called a super moon but this is ridiculous!!

>>1960882
Do you? It's not 'hurr durr fukkin chrisdens r stuped'

>>1960899
You aren't even a Christian. You are a shitposter trying to make Christians look bad with shit arguments like "nothing we percieve is even real, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan". You are probably an atheist.

>>1960903
I never claimed any position.

You Platonists aren't even fucking rational.

>>1959112
People, wheter Asian, African or European, consume resources. There is no good reason for why Asians or European should have six kids each, not there is any reason for well-off Africana to have more than two.

>>1960914
>claims reality isn't real
>thinks this is an argument against one way of determining reality in particular
>thinks anyone will take him seriously
Fuck off.

>>1960940
I'm not here to be taken seriously. You are once again attaching an ideology to existence.

>>1961389
>I'm not here to be taken seriously.
Then fuck off, you blatant and unapologetic shitposter.

>>1961408
>IF YOU DONT WORK BY MY IDEOLOGY YOURE JUST FUCKING SHIT RAAGHHH

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>>1960899
If it's a Christian superstition then it does mean "hurr durr fukkin chrisdens r stuped' you bloody ape.

>>1961440
Except Christians are the only intelligent people.

>>1961389
I think seriously is the wrong word to use, I think the key here is being worth considering at all, which you clearly fail by having such a retarded argument.

>>1961432
>hey, X is shit because everything is shit because trust me also please ignore the entire alphabet being objectively even more shit, just focus on X because I said so
FUCK
OFF

>>1961513
>argument
Are you actually autistic? You have yet to even peak your head out of your cave.
>>1961525
>things i dont like are worse than muh ideology
is this what they call a 'confirmation bias'?

>>1960855
>will-to-truth
It's literally the fourth time i've seen you spamming this over the course of a month faggot, seriously kys and/or stop posting

>>1961544
>OMG SOMEBODY USED A TERM FOUR TIMES IN A COURSE OF 15 DAYS WTF
I'll just spend a paragraph explaining it every single time instead, sorry for triggering you. Gomen ne~

>>1961527
No, you are a moron for the reasons listed in this thread. But you ignore this reasoning keep feeding yourself this circular logic that people disagree with you because they are wrong and they are wrong because they disagree with you despite you ADMITTING that no system is better and that you don't believe any system can be used to find out how the world works, nullifying your entire fucked up argument against science in particular.

>inb4 but you disagree with me so you are clsose minded and wrong and you should just take my word for it when I say that science is bad at finding out how the world works despite by me admitting that I don't believe any system can figure out how the world works, also I'm a pedantic fuck with no actual knowledge of anything I'm talking about, I just got angry that science doesn't' agree with this one thing I was taught as a kid and...

>>1961547
You have no argument. You are just assmad at science for god knows what reason. You have no alternative, so you just spam the board with shitposts. Read a fucking book or something.

>>1961567
>you're a moron for [severe ideological reasons which have no meaning beyond my preconceptions]

Stay dogmatic, manchild.

There is no 'world', that's another ideology attached to existence. There is nothing to understand and all claims of understanding are also ideologies attached to existence.
>>1961574
>alternative
Why is that needed? You're presuming I have some will-to-truth ends.

>>1961547
Better yet, stop needlessly quoting nietszche via shitty buzzwords and never use japanese again you cringy faggot.

>>1961581
>look mom, I didn't read their post, I just spammed the some nonargument again

>>1961584
>buzzwords
Will-to-truth isn't a buzzword. It's not even a fucking quote. Are you one of those STEMspergs that attacks people when they say 'Zeitgeist' because of your infinite-progress model of history? How do you even function?

>cringe
Are you actually 15 now? Or are you going to keep rejecting that? Fuck off back to /sci/ or ribbit with your trash.
>>1961587
>arguments are good because my ideology says so

>>1961606
>OMG ANON, YOU USED THE WORD 'CONSCIOUS'? YOURE FUCKING STUPID STOP THAT

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>>1961606
>arguments don't exist
So what are you trying to accomplish by posting, bitchnigger?

>>1961618
Nothing, why do you assume I have a goal in mind?

Do you actually have autism?

>>1961606
>will to power
>will to truth
>eternal return
>ubermensch
>antichrist
I mean, Nietszche is 85% buzzwords, no surprise it's so popular among autists of your kind. Anyway, at least consider ending your life pls, thx

>>1961644
I only used will-to-truth, but you keep trying to look intellectual bub.

You forgot 'dogmatist' btw. Stop acting like you've read him too.

>>1961653
I've read him, unfortunately. It was almost as dull as replying to you. Remember, kys.

>>1961660
No you haven't, stop shitposting.

>>1961667
>if you dont like or agree with Nietszche you haven't read him
Reminder kys stands for kill yourself

>>1961679
There's nothing to agree with you ideologue.

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>>1961682
ok, see ya

>>1957745

Small penises making them unable to use condoms.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6161691.stm

>>1957745

Rice, germs and steel.