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Were there black legionaries and auxiliaries?

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Were there black legionaries and auxiliaries?
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>>1948981
>black
Define "black".
Subsaharan niggers? No.
North africans? Yes, a great deal many auxiliaries and maybe a couple of legions mostly raised out of north africans from Africa province.
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>>1948981
Was dere whyte legionarys and auxhrilyes?
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>>1948981
Take a very good look at that map. Really. Look at it.

Do you really believe sub saharan blacks were anywhere near the Roman empire? I mean maybe a couple could've ventured into Roman land but not in any meaningful number.

No, North Africans are not sub-saharan. While numidians, berbers, libyans, and Egyptians were certainly dark skinned they have no connection to Tyrone and Jamal.
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>>1948981
The closest you'll get are ethiopian merchants who reached south egypt
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>>1948991
African=/= black
Dont be a moron. To answer OP yes there were
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>>1949203
There are Roman mosaics of niggers.The Roman acknowledged the existance of niggers and most likely some of them became legionaires
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>>1948981
i suppose Nubian's or even Ethiopians may have been in the legion

i don't see why they wouldn't be
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>>1949346
How do you know? They could have been circus exhibits.
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>>1948981
St. Maurice was a Roman commander of the the Theban legion, he was always portrayed as a black man.
>we wuz roman generals
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Surely there must have been some blacks coming from what is now Ethiopia, Somalia and Kenya through the Sinai Peninsula?
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>>1948981

Black sub-saharans, probably not. There was very little population movements across the sahara, some black africans certainly made it and a handful probably served as legionaries, but they would have been statistically nonexistent.

On the other hand, black east africans certainly served, there was a legion based in Egypt that was majority Nubian and ethiopians likely served on an individual basis.
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>>1949702

The Sudan was filled with Nubians, who were noted for their bamf cavalry.
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>>1949702

There's a giant highway called "the Nile" that is a more likely route for black east africans, who certainly served and in non-trivial numbers, but of course east africans have dark skin but they're not what Americans mean by "black", which really refers to the negroid peoples of west and souther africa.
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>>1948981
The Roman Empire bordered the Kingdom of Kush for most of its existence, so Nubians and even Ethiopians being in the empire as slaves, merchants, or soldiers is a definite possibility. There probably weren't a lot, but there definitely could have been a few in Egypt and North Africa.
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>>1948981
Who the fuck knows, nerd.

In all probability maybe, if they came from the southern Egyptian province.
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>>1949346
>..and most likely some of them became legionaires

Legions were raised by regions and sometimes merged when two or more became severely depleted, so I doubt they had sub-saharan blacks in their ranks considering no roman territory had a native population of that kind.
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>>1949515
This
If there were legions raised in Aegyptus, then there definitely would've been some Nubians and maybe some Ethiopians as well.
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>>1948981
No. Classical Latin literally doesn't have a word for black people. They were totally unknown to the Roman world.
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>>1949910
Anon they literally fought a war against the Nubians. Even Homer knew about the existence of Ethiopians.
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>>1949932
>either of those groups
>black
lol
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>>1949339
the Nile is one of the few areas where it was possible to travel past the Sahara so there were a minority of "blacks" in the Nile area.
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>>1949932
Those are Hamites son.
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>>1949946
>the definition of black changes when I need it to
Please stop anon. You're just embarrassing yourself. Nubian is a Nilo-Saharan language, and they look like this.
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>First result for Ethiopian
looks black to me

Anyway, nobody is trying to claim that "dem ebin africainz wuz legions n shit and they beat the Germanic tribesmen when they wuz still in mud huts n shit", but it seems pretty likely that at some point in the 5+ centuries when Rome had land in Egypt or the better part of 8 centuries off and on in North Africa that some black person wandered north and decided to join a legion.
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>>1949975
> but it seems pretty likely that at some point in the 5+ centuries when Rome had land in Egypt or the better part of 8 centuries off and on in North Africa that some black person wandered north and decided to join a legion.

Egyptians weren't Black. Nor were any native Africans north of the Sahara.

Since Blacks aren't known for their ambition I doubt any traveled up to Rome unless they were brought up as a human oddity.
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>>1950001
Egyptians weren't black, but there were black people in Egypt. In fact, there wuz a black dynasty of Egyptian kangz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Dynasty_of_Egypt
There was a lot of trade, travel, and warring done between the north and south of Africa
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>>1948981
a very small number perhaps
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>>1950023
second
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>>1950001
"Wandered north"
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>>1948981
The Nubian Kingdom of Kush, who were mostly blacks had contact with Rome and at one point they might have become a client kingdom, so it's possible that some of them also served in the Roman army. Not as legionaries though (legions came from provinces), but maybe as auxiliaries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Kush
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>>1950023
This. Niggers weren't common, and there probably wasn't any sub-Saharan subhumans in there, but there was definitely Berbers (Moors) and others.
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>>1950063
>but there was definitely Berbers (Moors) and others.

No doubt
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This thread is full of racist retards.

East Africa is full of blacks, proper blacks, who were known across the ancient world. Even Xerxes had blacks fighting in his armies well before the Romans.
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>>1950226
Source on Xerxes having black people in his army?
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>>1949724
>but they're not what Americans mean by "black", which really refers to the negroid peoples of west and souther africa.
Specifications like that are completely meaningless.
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>>1950252
Haven't you watch 300 ? It's all there !
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