What was the Trojan War really like?
>>1947339
Ask your mom
>>1947342
She said ask /his/
>>1947339
nobody knows so little was written about Troy
for a hundred years we thought Troy was a myth
>>1947401
Doesn't archaeological evidence give any insight? For example, they believe that the language spoken in Troy was Luwian, not some kind of Greek.
something to do with the bronze age collapse
>>1947420
All we know is they took their hearth gods to Italy and founded the Roman people and a bunch of cities
>>1947459
>believing Roman propaganda
Aeneas was boring as fuck, desu.
>>1947469
It's at least partially true. Why else would the Roman and Greek pantheons be so similar?
>>1947469
The first two chapters were good, then it got bogged down in all this world building. chapter six was good too.
>propaganda.
Next your gong to claim Aeneas was NOT a manifestation of Jupiter
>>1947474
Well at first Romans had their gods and Greeks had their own. What we think of as Romans "copying" Greek gods is them actually looking at Greek gods and saying, "hmm this sounds like it applies to X god." They did take some gods straight up, though. May also be the influence of Greeks in Campania.
>>1947475
It was like a fan fiction. Aeneas being the embodiment of Roman values, turns out that makes for an extremely boring one dimensional character.
Some random problems I had with the book:
>Oh look my wife died, no matter, fate has plans for me elsewhere lol.
>I have this son, but he never says anything in the entire book
>Battles are a slog
>Aeneas' rival doesn't have godmode activated
>What in the fuck is this ending
>>1947339
We're not quite sure. Guesses can be made about the arms and armor of potential fighters, and the population of the city, but we know jack shit about what the REAL Trojan War was like. It's not even clear there was one Trojan War from which Homer drew inspiration.
Individual heroism may very well have been more in vogue back then, before the hoplite phalanx
>>1947339
The only thing known about the tactics of the actual people who took Troy was that they had both a land and a sea army and they would catch cities unawares from both fronts
It probably happened and iirc there was evidence of a great fire along with the battle. That's about it.
>>1947660
The people who destroyed Troy were known for having very thorough destruction methods. Archaeologists literally couldn't find Hattusa (Hittite capital and one of the major power centers of the age) for decades because of how much they fucked it up.
>>1947420
>>1947339
Troy was a fortified settlement with 2000 people in it, Not a metropolis by any means, it was presumably destroyed by Myceneans since the Hittities often mentioned the Ahhywana, often identified as Acheans by archaeologists, trying to seize control of Wilusa (Ilios/Troy), that, and the fact that late Mycenean pottery was found in the layer of destruction, a pattern disturbingly very common during that exact same time in the rest of the settlements destroyed in Anatolia and the Levant and which is documented in Egyptian and Ugaritic texts which mention sea invaders among whom Acheans and Danaoi wrecking havoc in Arzawa, Hatti, Cyprus and Syria
>>1947759
Wonder what size the Achaean army was...
>>1947759
Wait so the Acheans destroyed the Hittites?
>>1947474
IDK maybe it has to do with the fact that the Greeks had colonies on the Italian peninsula for centuries before the wops even started to expand past their hills?
>>1947479
>Well at first Romans had their gods
Etruscan gods*
>>1947339
Sweaty for starters
>>1948927
Troyans were not Hittities but a vassal town of theirs
Thucydides my dudes, he has commentary on it
Quick reminder that the odyssey is better than the aeneid and any faggot who calls Odyessus Ulysses is a pleb.
>>1950529
>odyssey is better than the aeneid
No shit, does ANYONE dispute this?? Aeneid reads like a poor fanfic in comparison.