Nihilism

>>1945253
If bad means anything then nihilism is bad. If bad doesn't mean anything then nihilism is true.

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>>1945253
nihilism's a spook.

>>1945253
I thought that seaman on his face

>>1945257
OP here

so if nihilism is bad then what is good?
if nihilism is true then what is false?

>>1945273
Ok... I'm not sure if you're being too smart or too dumb.

Nihilism: The belief that nothing matters?
If nothing matters, is believing in Nihilism bad?
What is bad?
Something that is contrary to a happy life?
Is believing in nothing conducive to a happy life?
Is not human happiness comprised, at its based, of purpose?

blah blah blah yes it's bad, depending on your definition of bad, but most people would agree it's "bad".

>>1945288
Ok so

If nothing matters then why nihilism and other kind of a theories exist?

And again, if nothing matters then why some of us are happy or sad? If even that doesn't matter.

It's inherently nonsensical, as meaninglessness implies a meaning that is supposedly absent

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>im a nihilist myself

>>1945253
This is what I think.

There is a reciprocal interconnection between all subjects and objects. "Subject" and "object" are in fact two very crude simplifications, which are useful for analysis, but which are as "real" as any other mathematical symbol. This is the insight that perspectivism is SUPPOSED to lead you to.

However, that's not what happens. In most cases, people become "nihilists" — people who still think they are observing an intrinsic quality in the world, but rather than thinking they observe meaningfulness, they now observe meaninglessness.

But nothing has changed. They are still missing the mark. They still see in these crude illusory symbols.

The concept that life is meaningless is, once you get past the subject-object duality, as equally valid and invalid as the concept that life is meaningful.

Nihilism is a stepping stone past religion, but is not the endgame. And the endgame is not an "endgame" like people who haven't reached it yet imagine it to be.

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You better get out while you can. True nihilism inevitably leads to death.

>>1945303
>Nihilism (/ˈnaJ.ᵻlJzəm/ or /ˈniː.ᵻlJzəm/; from the Latin nihil, nothing) is a philosophical doctrine that suggests the lack of belief in one or more reputedly meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value.[1] Moral nihilists assert that morality does not inherently exist, and that any established moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism can also take epistemological, ontological, or metaphysical forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or that reality does not actually exist.

Nihilism does not think what you think it means. It mostly applies to objective value and not subjective value. That's why nihilists are always like you have to find your own meaning in life.

>>1946388
No it doesn't. Only the weak and stupid die on the nihilistic path.

>>1945253
My view is that there is no intrinsic meaning in the universe and that we have to make up meanings for ourselves. We are conscious and the universe is not. If that makes you want to kill yourself, too bad.

It's just laziness.

It's a pretty meh philosophy, doesn't really go anywhere.

>>1945253
Ethical nihilism is the only sound and consistent meta-ethical worldview. Absolutist/universal ethics are invariably arbitrary, and relativism is contradictory.

>>1945303
There is a "how", but not really a universal "why". That's existential nihilism. It can lead to existentialist or absurdist conclusions if you want it to, but nihilism is not necessarily synonymous with pessimism.

>>1945288
>most people would agree

Who gives a fuck. Universality is not objectivity, and not something I really think exists anyway. People act like murder is a universal taboo, but go back in time and try convincing the aztecs, norsemen, buddhists and nazis that your definition of murder is universal.

>>1946326
>>1946498
>>1948370

OP here, thanks for all the information.
Now I will make up my mind with all of the things that y'all said.

>>1946472

On a long enough timeline though, all Nihilists end up dead.

Coincidence? I think not.