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What went wrong from a historical point of view?

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What went wrong from a historical point of view?
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Genetics
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shitty leaders
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>>1942500
Geographic position.
Giving everyone in parliament veto.
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>>1942500
Not finishing their job when they had the chance.

Poland played Batman of nations for too long.
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>>1942697
This. ''Muh honor'' sounds nice in fairy tales but in reality it's a grave fucking mistake.
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>>1942500
They didn't Reform.
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>>1942507
but Russians are mongolized Poles
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Poles.
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Roman Catholicism
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>>1942722
Early American values were based on Polish ones.
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>>1942734
And that's a good thing how?
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>>1942697
>>1942702
Should've let the Ottomans steamroll through Europe and Poland would probably be one of the strongest countries in Europe today.

>>1942726
>Roman Catholicism
Preserved Polish culture and language when Poland didn't exist. Without the church, Poland probably wouldn't exist today.
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>>1942738
Golden freedom motherfucker
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>>1942741
Which is good Fuck Polacks and fuck the pope
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>>1942743
Two (Kosciuszko and Pulaski) out of five major U.S. revolution generals were from Poland and Kosciuszko ended up founding West Point.
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>>1942747
kys tyrone
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>>1942507
>>1942683
>>1942722
>>1942738
>>1942747
r*ssian scum detected

kneel
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>>1942507
Hi blyat
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>>1942752
I'm not a Slav I'm am Scottish
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>>1943112
The cuck to the anglos
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>>1943120
And what are you?
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>>1942507
>I failed both history and biology in school
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>>1943112
That's even worse.
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>>1943120
Lol while the poles are cucks to the kruats and Ruskie
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>>1943139
No you could a retarded polack
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>>1943146
Poles still achieved more than scotts.
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>>1942734
What does that even mean?
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>>1942712
Reform to what? Give up religious freedom, multiculturalism, decentralization, optional military service with small, but professional army and remove elections?
Sounds more like modem times,
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Events of the late XIII/early XIV centuries were crucial. Unfortunately the worst possible faction won.
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Pissing off not just one but two great powers
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>>1945471
they pissed them off just by existing
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>>1942500
Russians

It's always Russians.
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>>1945471
Not even funny anymore
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>>1942500
Nothing, its one of the greatest nations on Earth.
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>>1942500
They are an unnatural country that exists in german clay.
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>>1943180
Nope
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>>1945565
>Nope
What the fuck do you smoke you illiterate fuck?

Scotts are bunch of skirt-wearing homo cavemen compared to Pooland.
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>>1942718
That's not how haplogroups work.
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>>1942500
They hate the very country that gave them most of their territory (Russia).
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>>1945573
Scots are literally one of the most disproportionately accomplished nations on Earth.

Poland are good. But they have nothing on the Athens of the North.
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>>1945627

* are literally one of the most disproportionately accomplished nations on Earth.

*Insert ethnicity here.
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>>1942500
Elected a swedish king in hoping to gain ally
The swedish converted to protestantism and declared war
also losing halve the population in the deluge
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>>1945627
Lol retard
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>>1945573
You mad
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Our nobels fucking shit up.
God fucking damn it we should have become absolute monarchy
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Liberum Veto.
It basically made impossible to do any reforms for hundreds of years.
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>>1946152
Also, not doing pic related before the Cossacks didn't chimped out completely.
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>>1946158
Actually, everything that went wrong usually came down to magnates fucking things up.
>Bolesław the Bold was overthrown and his brother, Władysław Herman was placed on throne
>Władysław was subservient to German Emperor (unlike his brother), never tried to be crowned king (unlike his brother, who were a king), and sided with Emperor rather than with the Pope (unlike, you guessed it, his brother).
>Władysław's son, Bolesław Wrymouth, on his deathbed separated Poland between his children, with the oldest member of the famili being the king
And then it got worse.
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Catholicism.
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A good question. What's wrong?
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>>1947765
Elective monarchy was a mistake.
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>>1946055
>swedish king
that's false though

he was raised in Polish culture, polish language and catholicism, he was a Jagiellon, not a Vasa.
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>>1942500
Liberum veto.
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>>1947871

>he was raised in Polish culture, polish language and catholicism

He was born and raised in Sweden, Protestantism was not the official faith in Sweden until 1593

>he was a Jagiellon, not a Vasa.

His father was a vasa which makes him a vasa
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>>1947980
He was raised in Polish culture you faget
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