Is language our true fatherland?

>>1938343
I speak 3 languages, does that mean i have 3 fatherlands?

>>1938343
Shouldn't English be green?

>>1938343
No, but it certainly is part of our cultural identity and gives or takes the opportunity to communicate with different groups of people.
That's a shit map. Low German is missing completely.

>>1938350
Nice meme

>>1938347
Would great fluency be enough to consider it your fatherland our does the language need to be the most dominantly used?

>>1938343

>Gallegan
Lel, isnt it Galician?

>>1938343
Ethnicity is. Language is simply an integral part of it.

>Ukrtainian
Way too much representation for a dead language

>>1938343
>that cute serbo-croatian in the north and west of macedonia
>tfw no makedonsko devojce to cuddle with
Why live senpai?

>>1938356
It is

Fucking estranxeiros

When did language become such an important part of nationalism? Back in the day many languages were spoken in the same territory but these days language is one of the pillars of modern day separatisms. Enlighten me /his/

>>1938400
Language is vital part of an ethnic identity. Why do you think every country in the former Yugoslavia made it's own "language" that is almost the same as other such languages.

>>1938400
Language dictates the way in which we express ideas. It is easier to form a common identity within a nation and to make a clear separation between that one and others if each nation has its own language and the language is regulated by the state. That's why Low German and tons of other "minority" languages were essentially driven to extinction in the course of nationalist movements.

>>1938412
>That's why Low German and tons of other "minority" languages were essentially driven to extinction in the course of nationalist movements.
Some were even supressed, such was the case in France and the UK. In North-America the (Amer)Indians were also punished for speaking their own language.

>>1938445

Not just the indians. US government put heavy penalties on German speakers during World War 1. The German language went from the second most spoken to virtually non-existant in a very short amount of time.

>>1938343
>that's all italian

this thread neglects how much the dash for standardization in the 18th and 19th centuries along with mass literacy united various disparate and sometimes unintelligible dialects under the umbrella of one language tho desu

>>1938343
No
t. Switzerland

>>1938445
It is still happening everywhere around the world. I met a young Kurdish man from Syria who said he was forbidden to use Kurdish in his homeland, hence he was much more proficient in Arabic.
>>1938454
This.

>>1938343
great meme map m8

>>1938454
UK did the same with Welsh, although they eventually stopped

Yes. Any language is an ordering of concepts and prejudices by certain signifies, and while some languages are superficially translatable, they're always translated within the terms of the "collective unconscious" of the language itself.

The truly great project that must be undertaken by today's states, at least those that want to become great nations, is that of consciously shaping their language, and thus making the unconscious an authentic reflection of the will of the state.

>>1940400
Fuck off, Big Brother

>>1939681
They also did that with Italian in Matla and memed the Maltese language into existence.

>>1939681
Except the British government now spends millions trying to preserve Welsh, Scots Gaelic and Irish, etc.

>>1938343
Didn't know Danzig still spoke German

>>1938343
great post there emil cioran

>>1938343
White Russian is just Belarusian no? Not true Russian

>>1941272
Welsh is nice and alive by comparison with Irish or Scots Gaelic

>>1938343
Not really senpai. It's civilisational ethos and race.

>>1941452
True. Welsh blows every other Celtic language out the water.

Scots Gaelic is surprisingly alive too.

>>1938354
The one you dream in

>>1941176
>dumb roachposter speaking of genocide. Kurdish is the 57 most spoken language, the map is accurate.

>>1938412
A language is a dialect with an army and a navy, after all.

>>1942044
But that's not what was meant with that quote.
It addresses the problem of telling languages and dialects apart.