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What would happen if a european state turn communist or very

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What would happen if a european state turn communist or very socialist
In todays world
No personality cultura or supreme leader bullshit became communist by popular revolt?
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>>1931056
>you can always dream
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>>1931056
It will be smashed by NATO, sadly
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>>1931067
NATO can just invade a 1st world state mutch less if it was communist China would get involved i remember ukraine banner communist and China cut trade with them
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>>1931063
You never know with the state of the world these days
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>>1931071
Well, it would just turn into Chinese puppet. That would be a shame
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>>1931075
Communisms has completely discredited itself, especially in Europe. The chances are astronomically low that a majority of a population ever again buys into that shit.
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>>1931079
Hmm taking in to account the distance it would be hard but they would be kinda dependent on them for trade
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>>1931085
Hás it thou?
There are communist parties in every coutry and some of them with a significant percentage of votes
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>>1931092
>French detected
You are also the guys that strike against unemployment and think it will work.
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>>1931085
Soviet-style commies - maybe. But left ideas in general are still strong in Europe and anarchism in particular
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>>1931104
A hit and a miss try again faggot
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>>1931110
no need, for, keep on dreaming about your big communist utopia
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>>1931109
You mean Stalin style communism
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>>1931119
You do realise you are in /his/?
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>>1931056
Might just get booted out of the EU.
If a communist party won the elections, it would still have to play by the EU dictated rules of the game, so it would look something like market communism with EU regulations.
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>>1931122
Yes, then please put a little effort in your scenarios, because if Moldovia turns gommunist, no one would give a shit. With other countries you'd likely do the Venezuela, watch how they turn themselves into complete shit, and take the spoils when the people finally revolt and turn back to a free market economy.
>Communism always fails, because it has inherent flaws.
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>>1931128
Free market?
Do you belive in fairytales
And you talk about flaws
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>>1931120
I mean USSR during Stalin's time AND after it. Bureaucracy fucked everything up
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>>1931127
I thinkbi would be automaticly kick out
The eu only accepts "democracies" and a one party state kinda would fallout of that
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>>1931135
I think Kruschev was on the right track investing in people and state aswell as weapons
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>>1931134
Actually I do believe that things have a name that is common in our todays language, like free market for a type of a certain economical system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market
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>>1931056
I would solve all this rapeugee thing no retarded childish thing as religion would be kicked out
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>>1931149
There isnt a single market in the world it always fails badly
Thats why there are thing as market regulations
Fixes for a broken idea
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>>1931138
A communist party wining the election doesn't make the state automatically a one party system.
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>>1931164
What kind of communists are they if they don't instantly start working towards state socialism at the minimum?
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>>1931157
You know, when I look out the window, and check reality, I live in one of the richest countries in the world, have a nice flat, a good job, health insurance and a leased car. And the communist party made 0.8% of the vote last election. That lthen makes me ask a couple questions.
If market economy is such a bad idea, why does it still work all over the world?
And if communism is such a good idea, why does it always fail so horribly both in society and economy?
And why are there fucktards that get triggered by the sheer mention of the therm "free market"?
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>>1931164
It most likely will
But even if it doesnt its going to blasted to shit on the internacional stage by paranoied right wing eu politician
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>>1931146
Well... On the good side, tons of housing flats for people were built in his time. They're still called "Khruschevkas". It was small but it was an actual flat. Also, Space Program
On the bad side, he spent a lot of resources for stupid agricultural projects, was too aggressive and ordered to shoot workers on strike.
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>>1931167
You know, changing constitution and elementary rights of freedom and possession is not that easy in a modern, multi-party parliamentary democracy. You'd need a huge majority of the vote and even then. Now it doesn't look like this is gonna happen anytime soon in the civilized world.
Other than that, Venezuela is a great example what will happen when...
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>>1931170
>And why are there fucktards that get triggered by the sheer mention of the therm "free market"?

Classic leftist tactic of supressing ideas from the start. It's the same for "neoliberal" and even for things that don't need to be attacked so much due to its shitiness, like "Ayn Rand" (seriously, try talking about Atlas Shrugged, don't even compliment it, just be neutral and people will act like you just murdered a puppy)
On my shithole of a country "right wing" was an insult untill a two years ago when a leftist government pretty much destroyed the country
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>>1931170
You avoided the question faggot
There isnt a single free market eve never exist its a fairy tale
And communism fail western nations are and always were terrifeid that its going to work só they do everything in their power to Hinder its progress like fighting the against the red army in the civil war isolate to the max socialist States so they chock to death and whend that fails they create agencies to contain communism because they are scared shitless people realise its the way forward
You say live in one of the richest country and you are an upper class cuck that was born with a silver spoon in his mouth well maybe you country never faced real hardship let take a guess your an americuck?
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>>1931188
Have fun with a right wing goverment
Freindly advice prepare for some years of stagnation
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>>1931192
Better than the three-year recession we are currently in :^)
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>>1931173
Well better to shot some workers that want to be more then the other then massive pointless purges
And the agricultura reforms were poorly implemented they could work they would still be kinda pointless ...
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>>1931192
I would rather have stagnation than degeneration, thank you very much.
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>>1931195
Well were i live we had a semi-facist goverment for 50 years
All we have to show for it is a shit tom of gold we cant use and 10 years of delay compared with the rest of europe
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>>1931189
>You avoided the question faggot
>There isnt a single free market eve never exist its a fairy tale
>And communism fail western nations are and always were terrifeid that its going to work só they do everything in their power to Hinder its progress like fighting the against the red army in the civil war isolate to the max socialist States so they chock to death and whend that fails they create agencies to contain communism because they are scared shitless people realise its the way forward
>You say live in one of the richest country and you are an upper class cuck that was born with a silver spoon in his mouth well maybe you country never faced real hardship let take a guess your an americuck?


>this is glorious gommunist pasta now
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>>1931200
I wish I was only 10 years behind Europe, m8
Also, fascism is not economic liberalism.
Between a fascist nationalistic right wing government and a social democrat left-wing government I'd go for the latter, even if I'm right wing
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>>1931199
Degeneration is a meme
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>>1931199
Yes...everybody know how degenerate those sweeds are i guess?
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>>1931203
How so?
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>>1931188
Right wing is still an insult here, but, at least in my social circles, left wing is too. Neither "left wing idiot" nor "right wing idiot" would cause the batting of a single eyelash.
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>>1931202
Fascism comes with conservative and isolationist economics
Yes we got 10 years of delay even thou we got did of it in the 70s back then we had some 30 years of delay
We are some of the hardest workers in europe but out efeciancy per out worked is shit due to a massive lack of modern tecnologies
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> "moderate" and "peaceful" protests ens in riots.
>country sanctioned by NATO and US for "violating human's rights"
> supply weapons and ammo for parties to fight the "oppressive" government.
>like those things will get into the hands of parties that has swastika as their logo.
> Oh look another wave of immigrants.
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>>1931056
All forms of anarchism inadvertently lead to a supreme leader
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>>1931207
Right wing is a therm for people that like to have a free market economy and 20% taxes. Left wing is a therm for people that like to have a free market economy with 50% taxes.

Pretty much anybody else is not relevant in modern western societies and only scores single digit results or less in elections. People that want to go full Liberalism, people that want to go full communist or full fascist are simply not relevant in todays political world.
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>>1931214
>syria.jpg
>iraq.jpg
>Venezuela.jpg
>cuba.jpg
>1979s afganistan.jpg
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>>1931226
And we finally arrived on /pol/ level.
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>>1931232
Feel free to contradict my statement with your own argument and smug image.
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>>1931235
Na, no need for, I had my fun for today, gotta go back to work.
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>>1931241
Aight, I'll keep pointing out the economical implications of America's past wars, like how Saddam and Gaddafi were looking to make the Arabs trade oil in gold instead of US Dollars and how there's plans for an oil pipeline through the Middle-East into Europe to undermine the Russian oil exports.
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>>1931253
Dont forget the undemining of chinese economical intrests
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>>1931056
This has already happened many times.

The Paris Commune and the Biennio Rosso come to mind. Guess what happened?

Capitalists and fascists instantly cracked down on them
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