WW1

File: luigi.jpg (110KB, 618x800px) Image search: [Google]

110KB, 618x800px

>>1922997
sup
>marshal of italy

>>1922997
they did well enough without that faggot enver

>gallipolli
>kut

>>1922997
The Ottomans fared far better than the Austians, Russians and Italians. Thez were experienced and well organized after the Balkan Wars and the Ottomans had some prettz neat generals as well.

>t. butthurt Australian

>>1923089
Those were literally the only relevant Ottoman victories, kut got taken a couple months after their victory anyway.

>>1923008
this guy is such a cunt

Johnny Turkey was the real deal

>>1923368
>better than the Russians
Brusilov Offensive man.

>>1923368

I'd grant the Ottomans that they were better than the Italians (which isn't exactly an enormous feat considering they were led by this >>1923008 monstrous dipshit), but the Russians and even the Austrians accomplished more than them.

The Ottomans got utterly spanked by the Russians in the Caucasus/eastern Anatolia, and their few victories against the Brits & co. were close cut affairs despite the Ottomans usually holding enormous strategic & tactical advantages on home soil.

File: Austria-Hungary.jpg (269KB, 650x450px) Image search: [Google]

269KB, 650x450px

>>1922997
Yes.

>>1926385
Austria's just like the guy who gets trashed at 9 during their birthday party and spends the night vomiting

The Austrian army

>>1926223
Purely a numbers thing

>>1923008
The Italians are highly underrated in WW1. They maintained a major front more or less on their own for the entire war while still contributing troops to the Western Front, and knocked Austria-Hungary out of the war. They even managed to get the third largest artillery stock in Europe behind France and Germany, despite being a relatively poor and underdeveloped nation.

Plus, in the end, they inflicted more casualties than they took. Vittorio Veneto best day of my life.

>>1926385
holy shit I had no idea austria-hungary was this big

>>1926750
>t. mussolini

I think the Ottomans are underrated. They beat the Anglo-French at Gallipoli, which by any metric is pretty good; two great powers coming to attack a marginal power and the great powers lost. In Iraq and the Levant they inflicted several defeats on the British such as Kut, and it took many years for the British to drive them back. Against the Russians, they had some terrible failures in the initial period of the Caucasus campaign, but they didn't collapse, and according to wikipedia the Russians had 700,000 troops tied down there by 1916. 700,000 troops is a lot of forces and supplies, that could have done a lot on the Eastern Front. When Russia collapsed, they reached as far as Baku. In addition, they contributed forces to fighting on the Eastern Front, the Salonika Front, and in the Romanian Campaign. I don't know how important or useful those troops were, but just the fact that they sent several corps for such operations is impressive.

Overall that sounds like a pretty good overall performance to me. A poor empire with a small population (the Ottoman Empire's population was 18 million), lots of internal ethnic minorities, which was conducting a genocide internally at the same time as fighting the war, was spread over a large geographic area, with some but not a huge amount of support from Germany, hung on fighting for 4 years against the British, Russians, French, and various smaller nations, tying down or effectively combating probably literally millions of enemy soldiers, with their mere existence choking off Russia's vital grain export capacity.

It certainly beats Austria-Hungary >lose to everybody but Italy including god damn Serbia, or Italian >holy shit we're losing to Austria-Hungary despite the Austro-Hungarians fighting against Serbia/Salonika front/and Russia at the same time!

>>1926750
Italy contributed a few divisions to the Western front, and the Western powers contributed a few divisions to the Italian front. It isn't an impressive showing.

>>1926828
Ottoman Empire population was 21 million at ww1, took a significant blow because of soldier and civilian deaths though

>>1926859
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1914_population_statistics_for_the_Ottoman_Empire

The 1914 census list reflected major changes in the territorial boundaries and administrative division of the Ottoman state.[3] The population statistics and Ottoman general election, 1914 were major population sources. 18,520,015 was the population.[4] The grand total for 1914 showed a "net gain" of 1,131,454 from the 1905-06 Ottoman census survey. The data reflects the loss of territory and population in Europe due to Balkan Wars, as the total net gain figure would be 3,496,068.[5]

Germany

>did not advance in the west since battle of the marne in 1914
>got btfo by brits all throughout the war
>only reason why they didn't immiadately collapsed was due to their huge population and thus huge manpower

>>1923368
>Austians, Russians
Laughable statement, even more so considering the later utterly decimated their army at the beginning of the war

>>1926750
>knocked out
Please, we all know it was the slavs who crippled Austria

>>1926442
>Just a number thing
The offensive that could have ended the war and also almost broke the Austrians. Just imagined if the northern generals also consecutively also attacked the Germans lines making it almost impossible to help the Austrians, the Germans would be forced to capitulate without it most important ally.

>>1922997

ISIS

>>1923732
its all about supplies m8. one of high ranking officers in kut even suicided over not having a wire cutter in middle of the war.

>>1926385
Austria-Hungary still trashed Italy numerous and somewhat held their own against russkies.

File: 1461081689856.png (70KB, 1024x1554px) Image search: [Google]

70KB, 1024x1554px

>>1926750

File: auu.jpg (1MB, 1198x2520px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1198x2520px

>>1926801
Oh look, a normie
Austria has been one of the biggest countries in Europe for centuries
Being amazed by its size in WW1 is "new to history" tier

>>1927379
>history
No such thing on this shit board, just memes

>>1922997
The same army that fought the British army to a standstill for 3 years straight despite the British army being 7 times larger?

>>1922997
Russia, Austria-Hungary, and most of all Italy were much worse than Turks

>>1927134
retarded italy a cute
A CUTE

>>1922997
>sick man of europe
>takes the allies 4 years and 1M+ lives to defeat them
>can't even partition anatolia because the Turks later on BTFO greeks

yeah... shittier

File: ital ital.png (109KB, 466x384px) Image search: [Google]

109KB, 466x384px

>>1927994

File: 9834723.jpg (64KB, 761x1051px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 761x1051px

Austria in every war since the Ottoman Wars. Thrashed by France, Italy, Prussia, Russia, Serbia.

File: Cadorna.png (1MB, 1899x876px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1899x876px

>>1923008

>>1926750
Italy was a minor player. Nevertheless they forced the "Mittelmächte" to send troops, but Italy just began to attack offensively when ÖU already collapsed internally. They exagerated their victory at Vittorio Veneto extremely and after the war whined about a "vittoria mutilata".