Serious Question

>I'm not a misogynist,

Yes you are.

You could as well ban /r9k/ from orgies, lel.

>>1920547
do you really want to not only put more women in women's studies but also give them something legitimate to gripe about?

>>1920547

>Should OP be banned from /his/ board?
>Maybe that should include /int/ etc.
>The majority of the time, the OP in these boards are fucking idiots. A lot of the posters are stupid too but at least they can discuss ideas to an extent and can read a complex text and come to some understanding of what it means but OP simply can't.
>I am not a OPhobic , I am legitimately basing my opinion on experience.

>>1920547
Women have been banned from these types of things since antiquity for a reason

They tend to just vagina everything up, cause gossip jealousies etc.

>>1920562
They should know they place of intellectual minorities, also they should be banned from complaining too.

>>1920547
>im not retarded

>I just say retarded shit

Really makes you think

>>1920556
No, I am not. I don't think women possess inherent characteristics which make them intellectually inferior to men but I simply cannot see how in any way they're lack of philosophical understanding can be reconciled.

They are raised to be superficial and therefore can never look into themselves and reflect in the same way men can.

And before you say that isn't true, tell that to the literal millions of women who are raised in frilly dresses, wear makeup, and are constantly chased after by men.

>>1920580
Philosophy isn't self-reflection, anon.

>>1920580
>they're
their
>They are raised to be superficial
complete conjecture, but in 4chan speak,
>implying

remind me when females transcended and developed a hivemind

Seriously, let me know


You homeschooled retards need to learn your generalizations don't work out in reality

>>1920583

And what is it according to you?

Read Sexual Personae.

>>1920583
How can one write any decent philosophy without retreating from society and taking some time to actually think?! Or examining society itself?!

>>1920587
Wow, my computer autocorrected my spelling, thanks for pointing that out!

You are surely not superficial or a woman yourself!

A challenge for the detractors of OP:

Name one (1) female philosopher whose ideas actually have some merit.

inb4 ayn rand

>>1920594
what computer are you using that autocorrects without grammar check

So already anyone who criticizes you is essentially your said opposition


>>1920597
Annie Dillard

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>>1920603
woah.... really gets the neurons firing...

>>1920603
More like Annie Dullard LOL

>>1920612
>>1920614
quality discourse my friends

>>1920597
Hannah Arendt? Simone de Beauvoir? Mary Wollstonecraft? Just off the top of my head.

inb4 lewl they're shit i don't like them. They are still influential and generally well-regarded.

>>1920621
Yes, they were influential but were they monumental? No.

And this doesn't change the fact OP is talking about women in philosophy departments in general.

>>1920628
that wasn't the question you fucking retard

stop slobbering over OPs cock faggot

>>1920632
What are you talking about?

It clearly asks if women should be banned from philosophy departments.

>>1920597
Mary Mdidgley
Hildegard von Bingen

fag

>>1920642
>Name one (1) female philosopher whose ideas actually have some merit.

>Yes, they were influential but were they monumental? No.

Literal autism, just stop while you're ahead anon

>>1920590
About meanings that could be internal or external.

>>1920642
The question was
>Name one (1) female philosopher whose ideas actually have some merit

Saying
>they were influential but were they monumental? No
is a total goalpost move.

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>>1920597
Hannah Arendt, Edith Stein, Simone Weil, Julia Kristeva, Judith Butler, Ayaan Hirsi Ali

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>>1920628
> Only monumental ideas have some merit! XD
I have heavy case of edgy maximalism, buy you outdone even me here.

>>1920678
Yes.

The majority of philosophers are hacks. That doesn't change the fact women are bad at philosophy.

>>1920689
Just stop man you're embarrassing yourself

>>1920706
Are you seriously telling me you've never had a philosophical group discussion and the women were less qualified than the men?

Or are you just an anomaly? Or perhaps a woman yourself!

>>1920689
Most people are bad in philosphy. Men or women, who cares if both genders are shittiers.

>>1920689
>women
Show me when females transcended the mortal coil and evolved into a hivemind


God you're retarded, what high school did you go to?

>>1920720
> when females transcended the mortal coil and evolved into a hivemind
After being allowed to vote.

>>1920713
Anon this fantasy scenario you imagine in your head doesn't exist


You're somehow fixated on the lower intelligent ratio of women being bad at generally any academic pursuits, while ignoring males same ratio of unintelligent people who don't know shit about philosophy or why the sky's blue nonetheless

>>1920597
Elizabeth Anscombe

>>1920713
I have had philosophical group discussions where the women were less qualified than the men. I have also had discussions where the opposite was true.

Based on your """arguments""" in this thread so far, I'd say you're substantially less intelligent than any of the women in philosophy that I know.

Why not just made the qualification test and allow only worthy to study? Are you scared that women could take that or want to give retards a free pass for just being a man?

>>1920738
>only worthy to study
cause philosophies not a worthy study

>>1920730
What?!

The OP clearly states that many men are bad at it too and we are not talking about ALL subjects, this is primarily about philosophy.

>>1920734
She was shit. Literally famous for inventing the term consequentialism. Her work is irrelevant.

>>1920745
Than who the fuck cares if women are here or not?

>>1920753
Philosophy is literally inventing terms and barely anything more.

Women lack the mental capacity for academic thought

And I say this as someone who feels compassion for his female students

They just can't think like men

>>1920756
freedom and self determination

>>1920758
Programming is a skill

Idk what a paycheck major is, though all could be called that in retrospect because college is the hopes of getting a high paying job as opposed to working at Mcdonalds like most philosophy majors take to

>>1920765
What do you work as?

>>1920768
hes a retarded teenager pretending to be an adult, don't bother asking

The age distribution on 4chan is highly skewed to 15-20, everyone else makes up like 5%

>I am legitimately basing my opinion on experience.
>my empty generalizations are valid because they're based on unverifiable personal anecdotes

>>1920765
Men are known for being shit in academy. This is why most men aren't there.

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Friendly reminder.

>>1920667
>Hannah Arendt
>Edith Stein
>Simone Weil
>>>Julia Kristeva
>Judith Butler
>>>>>>>Ayaaaan Hirsi Allah
Holy shit
>>1920734
>Elizabeth Anscombe
At least you tried

>>1920778
citation needed

>>1920789
untrue and outright odd, using data from high schoolers listing their intended major

But nonetheless you've proven how naive you are by implying a single study, non encompassing, peer reviewed or replicated passes off as fact


Nonetheless the "estimated iq" is estimated off SAT scores, which is a rather odd way of measuring intelligence, since the SAT's measures everything but

>>1920820
this site also claims liberal arts majors in generla have higher IQs than chemistry, engineering majors and a majority of STEM by a margin of a few points


Totally looks legit

>>1920621
Read those yourself and realize that women are incapable of higher thought by nature.

>>1920829
God you're retarded


And you're not even doing it ironically like /s4s/ or /r9k/ style, you're just an annoying vapid faggot

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>>1920792
Women invented Kevlar, men invented mysoginy.

>>1920597
The girlfiend of Voltaire, she was top shit.

>>1920842
>VIRGIN
Insecurity much? When did that word even get mentioned in the entire thread? Keep your mental issues to yourself anonkun

>>1920829
I read them and they are ok, very deep and thought provoking.

>>1920836
I am a married man. My wife is a linguist.
The way women perceive the world is simply different. I think it's rather time to give up on forced equalization. Leave women be women instead of forcing them to be men.

>>1920842
Unlike manly men of men's manliness who will just say thay you are cucked, like the true intellectuals. :^)

>>1920854
Yeah... Women see in ultra violet. Unlike the men.

>>1920854
>my wife is a linguist

You say this as if it makes you some sort of authority on women

>>1920854
>im a cuck
>writing fanfiction on the internet

>LMAO I HAVE A WIFE I AM THE END ALL AUTHORITY TO WHAT WOMAN THINK

this is getting repetitive, someone calls you retarded and you just give them more ammo


wtf are you doing kid

>>1920861
You think you have power over me?

>>1920865
dude what the fuck are you talking about

take your meds before I call sped control on you

>>1920792
not true, marie curie invented cancer.

>>1920860
You're jelly to not have a linguist wife.
Linguist wife > anything else

>>1920863
Good argumentation young man. For me women are good enough as what they are.

>>1920854
>Leave women be women instead of forcing them to be men.

If only that worked both ways.

>>1920874
no one asked you edgelord, speak when spoken to from now on, child

>>1920874
You know as well as I do that your wife studies complex ideas superficially.

Has she ever come up with something original? Doubt it!

>>1920865
lol wut

>>1920877
You asked.

>>1920874
> You're jelly to not have a linguist wife.
You're jelly to not have ultra violet vision. Must be hard for not being ablo see thousands of a colors that exist in the our world. Practically being blind.

>>1920883
literally no one has any idea what your sperg out is trying to say

>>1920885
wouldn't you be the one blinded? Sun pumps out UV like candy

>>1920792
DUDE INVENTIONS LMAO is such a shitty metric of anything and is only used by retards whose thinking is so simplistic and linear that they're incapable of comprehending nuance or complexity

>>1920880
99% of men do the same and?
She works as a language teacher and doesn't need the skills any deeper.

What do you try to tell me?

>>1920894
Not even actual retards look directly at the sun for too long, so that completely irrelevant.

>>1920895
Yeah! Fuck Napoleon, Plato and Hitler. What are tehir inventions? What a hacks.

>>1920895
No. There is a reason why 99.9% of all humans live in patriarchal societies. There is a reason why no mazriarchal society reached anything higher than tribal.

But like I said, there is no reason to measure woman on a men way of life.

>>1920895

LMAOing at your life right now.
Please continue to entertain us.

>>1920877
>>1920888

Are you legitimately this retarded?

>>1920912
> 99.9% of all humans live in patriarchal societies
Back to tumblr with your patriarchy meme.

>>1920921
yes anon, you are retarded, we clarified that ad nauseum

While we unto it, we should also ban midgets from education as if they even invented anything... 6"10 or GTFO.

Ah, good. The off-topic/pseudo-academic shitposting thread.

I'm meeting a Doktor of Mid-East history soon. Any questions you'd like me to ask?

>>1920927
>he thinks 6'10 is tall

Lmao manlets, when will they learn


7'16 masterrace

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>>1920927
>tfw 6ft-let

>>1920922
> men have invented and came up with every concept
Except consequentialism and billions of other, apparently.

>>1920925

You've completely lost it haven't you?
You can not even use the right pronouns to describe yourself.

>>1920934

>billions

I know you are not serious, but what is your angle here exactly?

>>1920938
The first programmer was the woman, also women are known for actually using more words than men and you can easily see it on a 4chan that repeats such genial linguistical insights like kek, wew and cuck, ad nauseam, compared to tumblr where the random user can come up with complex notion of the platoniromantic lalossexuality.

>>1920956

You do realize that making up words is what autistic people do in spare time, right?

>>1920942
It isn't really that hard to come up with concepts. Brain is a machine for conceptualisations so the number isn't really that impressive, as it sounds.

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>>1920969
Nice try, but men are known autists.

>>1920923
What bigger society is not patriarchal?

>>1920956
More words does not mean more valuable words.

>>1920592
Using our penis-brain

>>1920980
Jewish

>>1920977

Does that mean that you admit that more men come up with complex notions than women?
Since men are 'known autists' and autists come up with all sorts of complex notions in their spare time?

>>1920930
> single digit height manlets

11'15 master race

>>1920990
This is wrong and you know it.

>>1920985
In that case, it means exactly it as you can see by valueable examples of workds like cuck, that are already close to having zero semantic value.

>>1920922
Except the ability to invent things isn't just based on pure genetic intelligence, but also on education, wealth, availability of tools and resources, time, social pressures and expectations, legal restrictions, status, etc. Historically women have been at a pretty big disadvantage in most of these respects.

I'm not necessarily saying that genetics has no influence, just that inventions alone tell you little. Otherwise you might as well say that the reason that slaves and poor people haven't invented much is because they're just inherently dumber rather than the fact that they're poor slaves

>>1921006

>Ascribing quantitative semantic values to words

Spotted the cretin.

>>1920993
> autists come up with all sorts of complex notions
Such as?..

>>1921013

Platoniromantic lalossexuality

>>1921012
> he didn't know about mathematical linguistics

>>1921007
Black slaves in the Shartia invented the main culture there.

>>1921022
Which of course, couldn't be created by autists as autism is statistically rare for women.

>>1921030

Please do refer us to the specific topic under "mathematical linguistics" that ascribes number values to words, that is not numerology.

>>1921030
>He used a /pol/ example for an argument

I'm sure what children say is a good example for male use of words.

>>1921034

Could not be created because they are rare?
Never go full retard.

>>1921039
Mathematical Semantics, linguistic one, not the computer science one.

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>>1921049
Women were most of the programmers when shit was actually difficult to program, anon.

Fun fact: the higher educated a women is the less children she has on average.

If you think this in big you come to the conclusion that stupid women are more likely to pass on their genes what causes a degeneration of a groups mental capabilities over time.

>>1921044
It was created by random user so it is statistically impossible.

>>1921061
Why are all hackers men then?

>>1921069

>statistically impossible

Elaborate.

>>1921067
> the higher educated a women is the less children she has on average
Same goes for men too.

>>1921074
> Why most criminals are men?
Woman are more law abiding citizens.

>>1921083
Actually nope. Successful man have much more children on average. Google it.

>>1921076
> Show me some neolithic shit women did or shut up.
They invented fire, wheel, agriculture, language and religion.

>>1920977
Me on the right

>>1921094
Here have a you.

>>1921067
> Causes a degeneration of a groups mental capabilities over time
Education system doesn't exist long enough for that effect to be any of the importance.

>>1921116
Things can go faster than you think.

Stupid women have on average 3 times more children. Calculate how long it takes to out breed high educated women.

>>1920547
G.E.M. Anscombe was based. Arendt was okay too, though she advanced her career by schtuping Heidegger

>>1920678
> Only monumental ideas have some merit! XD
But that's true.

>>1920653
But you only experience the external clearly when you understand the internal

>>1920865
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Or maybe just make everything meritocratic and let that shit sort itself out. You dumb fuck.

>>1920547
Women should race children and take care of their sweet husbando.

Not banned certainly but I agree with OP that women simply can't into deep stuff. Raise the standards for admission maybe?

>>1920845
Émilie du Châtelet

>>1920547
What is the reason to ban them? Because they're "idiots"?

That isn't a valid reason. I'd like to hear from you exactly what you think we're losing by not banning them.

To me, the issue is more the fact that professors, employers, etc. are unable to discern between someone competent and someone incompetent in a field. Letting incompetent people through doesn't harm anyone — what harms someone is when they get graded higher than they should be, and are allowed to then get high level jobs they aren't qualified for somewhere. That's bad, but not related to allowing women into these departments in the first place.

Protip: I do think men are better for intellectual work. At the same time, bans like that are just arbitrarily formed boundaries which harm growth in society, and are based on immature reasoning. It's like when one child acts up, and then a teacher punishes the whole class — not only is punishment itself not the answer (the mature thing would be to identify why the child acts up), but punishing everyone else is even stupider. That's how the question "should we ban [X group] from [Y activity]?" sounds to me.

>>1920547
The question you should be asking yourself is why you hate freedom OP.

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can women be nihilist?

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>>1923762
Came here to say this.