Has there ever been a single person who has done as much for their country as Kemal Atatürk?
>>1920284
Beria. Without his extreme methods, Russia would never recover from the demographic reversals of WW2.
>>1920284
yes
Obama
>>1920284
I don't want to get all weeb and everything but Papa Meiji did a pretty good job too.
Yes.
>>1920289
If we're talking about Russia, wouldn't Peter be more appropriate?
>>1920314
He didn't do shit.
>>1920358
who you say therefore "did shit", in the japanese context?
>>1920362
Not him, but the answer is the people who actually did the Meiji Restoration, not their figurehead: the reformers from Satsuma and Choshu ex. Itō Hirobumi, Matsukata Masayoshi, Kido Takayoshi, Itagaki Taisuke, Yamagata Aritomo, Mori Arinori, Ōkubo Toshimichi, etc.
>>1920319
The real saviors of Russia were this guys.
>>1920379
> out-weebed
>>1920395
>Where going this way alex
>omfg this fucking guy *rolls eyes*
>>1920284
Too bad he failed his main goal: civilizing t*rks
>>1920575
Well, Turks would be arabic level uncivilized if he didn't exist.
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>>1920604
They are already degenerating into that on an alarming rate. It's time to make a clone of Ataturk to stop it.
>>1920624
Turkey is unstable on that matter and i fear that nowadays a man like Ataturk wouldnt be chosen by Turkish population so its unlikely