Face of a rich Mycenean warrior reconstructed

>Daily Mail
>Clickbait title
How about no?

>>1914792
Upset he's not white?????

Why is this shocking? He looks like most modern Greeks

Why is his face so wide?

>>1914806
no estrogen and antidepressants in the water back then

>>1914806
Because that's how his school was???
>>1914800
He looks mulatto while nordicist tards state ancient Greeks were Nordic... draw your own conclusions from this... SCIENCE, BITCH!!!

>>1914794
Do people really consider Greeks white?

>>1914817
Ancient Greeks yes, poltards think they were all white as a Fin!

This will make so many poltards cry!

Ah my proto-nordic forebear

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>>1914778
Looks like a Typical robust euro med. If he was Spaniard I would say he is from Albacete from deep rural Spain.

>They also looked at artifacts from the Mycenaean and Minoan civilizations, such as wall paintings, to determine the Griffin Warrior's skin tone and hair color.
Stopped reading there

>>1914810
>He looks mulatto
No mulattos look like that.

Go away Melanin Warrior.

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>>1914778
And now, ladies and gentlemen, the main dish!

Philip of Macedon, the father of Alexander the great!

His face has been reconstructed, Hitler must be spinning in his grave!

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>>1914831
It's not ok when somebody else does it!!!!

Kek poltard btfod

>>1914778
>The team reconstructed his face by layering facial tissues from the skull surface outward by using depth marker pegs to determine the thickness - revealing a he had long black hair, a square jaw and powerful neck

>Artifacts from the Mycenaean and Minoan civilizations were used to determine the Griffin Warrior's skin tone and hair color.

Okay, so the hair, skin, and eye colors are just speculation then. Good to know. Nice clickbait OP.

T H I C C

it's compatible with what we know of Indo-European invaders anyway(at least the ones directly from Yamna culture), they were robust but apparently swarthy as well

>>1914839
Literally a nigger
WE WUZ ALEXANDER MAGNUZ N SHIEET

>>1914966
They were faire haired and fair eyed nordics...

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>>1914996
no, those are the ones resulting from those Yamna folks raping the already fair looking Scandinavians and creating Corded Ware cuilture

we have DNA from those Yamna folks, pic related, only 16% of them had the mutation for blue eyes and their frequencies for white skin alleles were lower than modern south Euros

>>1915018
ur dat fingol from /int/ still shilling antiYamna bs and contaminatng other boards

>>1914794
>White males dont look like that
Dude are you for real?

>>1915224
no
I'm still right though, the data is right there

now of course we don't know exactly which kind of folks brought Greek to Greece, maybe it's possible that some of them, perhaps the later post-mycenean ones, could've had some links with CWC(after all Greece, even Crete, has some interesting amount of R1a that isn't present in any serious amount in R1b-rich west Europe) and thus be more 'nordic', but that's an hypothesis at best

in any case, swarthy+robust is compatible with what those proto Indo-Euros seemed to look like on average

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EXTRA EXTRA

READ ALL ABOUT IT

LOTS OF GREEKS HAVE DARKER SKIN

The were stocky, short and had swarthy looks.

Were teh Mycenaeans middle-earth dwarfs?

>>1914839
Good thing Alexander literally wasn't his son

>>1915241
No they had lots of testosterone compared to your girly ass.

Ancient Greeks were Nordic. NOOORRRRDDIIIIICCCCCCC

>>1914825
>white as a Fin
What?
They were Siberian?

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>>1915243

This

The look nothing alike

>>1914992
Are you saying "Alexander Magnus" to sound smart? Because you really don't, Alexander didn't spoke a word latin.

>>1915247
>implying any average modern man couldn't beat the shit out of these manlets

>>1915242
R1a was seemingly some sort of northern/eastern branch I guess
not a single R1a was found in the Yamnaya samples(the mainstream candidates for the Indo-Euro homeland) and they mostly carried R1b, and their genetic signature is present heavy in Europe
moreover, they do seem to preceed, archeologically but also genetically, Corded ware folks

on the other hand, R1a was chiefly present among samples from Corded ware culture and in general in the eastern steppe, and is indeed correlated with lighter features it seems

but as of the west, the almost complete lack of R1a among people influenced by Italics and Celts and the overwhelming presence of R1b would seem to suggest that the western Yamnaya branch was mostly responsible for the spread of Indo-Euro culture

maybe this was true for mycenean Greece as well, with the first Greek speakers going south from the Danube area
who knows

>>1915231
not so fast there

yamna are a western branch of afanesevo


Afanasevo culture (c. 3300–2500 BCE), located north of the Tarim, in Siberia/Mongolia, directly connected (genetically, culturally, linguistically) with Yamna of Europe (Black Sea)

the Yamnaya of the Samara Valley in the northern steppe of Russia were genetically indistinguishable from the Afanasievo of the Altai in the Yenesey region of southern Siberia, which confirms archaeologists’ suggestions that there was a vast migration of steppe pastoralists to the east. But unlike in Europe where the Yamnaya interbred with local farmers, the Yamnaya moving east completely replaced the local hunter-gatherers—perhaps because this region was only sparsely populated.

and Afanasevo was all fair hair/eyes

>>1915323
>>1915231

the Yamna (western Afanasevo) mixed with Trypillian and sexed damp bitches throughout Europe

scholars have linked the Tocharians with the Afanasevo culture of eastern Siberia (c. 3500 – 2500 BC), the Tarim mummies (c. 1800 BC) and the Yuezhi of Chinese records, most of whom migrated from western Gansu to Bactria in the 2nd century BC and then later to the northwestern Indian subcontinent where they founded the Kushan Empire.

>>1914778
Looks Mediterranean as fuck, honestly amazed at how little has changed in 3k years.

>>1915262
They had denser muscle fibers anon they would beat the shit out of you even if they are short.

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>>1914934
This.

Same level of ""((science))"" as Arab Jesus.

Ancient Greeks still Nordic
Turk rapebabies still BTFO

Serious question, why were people in the past so short compared to modern people?

>>1914934
>>1915364
>Forensic technicians can with a reasonable degree of accuracy determine the race of a deceased simply by looking at their skeletal structure.
>This magically goes out the window when the technique doesn't return the desired result that ancient Greeks looked like Sven from Norway.

lol Nordicists

greeks wouldn't be white until the dorian invasion

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>>1914810
How can a person prove to be so obnoxious and stupid all in one post.
You type like you just rolled out of rcddit or YouTube comments.

Get out of here with your popscience wanking and pancakes pancakes pancakes pancakes pancakes pancakes.
No one even mentioned Nordic centrists, until you came to shit up this shit thread.

>>1915379
You can't see skin color from bones retard.

An African albino's and a regular African's remains would be the same race

>>1915323
I wouldn't call one a branch of the other, they were very similar but also different.
In any case, we have the DNA of these Yamnaya western ones, and the SNPs are there to see, and they simply didn't have much when it comes to fairness.
Interbreeding with Eurofarmers wouldn't improve their fairness unless they went north and met the fair Scandinavians, as they did with Corded ware culture, which is basically Yamnaya + Eurofarmer

>LE X ANCIENT PEOPLE WERE Y MODERN DAY GROUP

Just extract DNA from osteocytes and find what skin color, hair color and eye color genes + look at the bones

Literal neanderthal DNA has been salvaged this way from bones

Why can't we do it to like 4k old human corpses?

Will someone educated explain?

If you aren't educated in the area, do not respond to me.

Poltards and stormniggers are butthurt rn

>>1914794
>greek
>white

>>1915260
>didn't spoke
Kek

>>1915913
but we can
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/ancient-human-dna_41837

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>>1914839

WTF is this shit. That's NOT Philip.

<- This is Philip of Macedon, as evidenced by cranial reconstruction of skull discovered in his purported tomb.

The reconstruction is amazingly consistent with contemporary ivory head that was earlier identified to depict Philip.

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>>1916087

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The face of Charlemagne from over 1000 years ago has been reconstructed, and the results are shocking

>>1914825
so they were mongols?

>>1916627
Oh shit they really wuz

>>1915424
Your point?

These are the bones of a Mycenaean.
Scientists reconstructed his face using forensic techniques. They modelled his hair and skin color after the artwork created by the Mycenaeans themselves.

Beyond burthurt we wuzism what is your justification for objection?

>>1916651
He's not satisfied with "his" people's achievements in Ancient times so he has to resort to pseudoscience to make himself feel better.

>>1916708
This.
It's just ego stroking at the same level of afrocentric wewuzism.

>>1916651
>>1916708
>>1916714
Lol samefag
Greeks come from Norway. Deal with it.

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>>1916721
Nice argument.

>>1916740
Nice photoshop skills. I can do that in under a minute.

>>1916637
kek

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>>1914778
Separated at birth?

>>1915364
Have you ever seen a Mizrahi jew?
Or a Samaritan?

That picture fits the generic sample.

>>1916770
he had "fair hair and skin and light eyes"

>>1916807
So do a lot of Arabs from the Levant. Whats your point? do you believe he was from Europe?

>>1916832
>europe
>majority white
he was from norway

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>>1914778
By the Emperor, it's the Emperor!

>>1916855
Greece and Anatolia are right next to each other, so pretty much yeah. They also settled Anatolia's western coast.

>>1914809

his face is wide from fat distribution, thats due to estrogen

>>1914794
>>1914810
rtfa for fuck's sake. the hair color and texture, and the skin color, are totally imaginative. the stuff that is actually based in evidence is 100% euro. deal with it, leftards.

>>1914778
This face is fucked up, aside from the hair it's virtually perfectly symmetrical, which is very unsettling. I understand it's a computer generation, but they could have tried to make it a little more natural.

Why are arabs so obsessed with white people? Is it because they secretly worship them?

>>1914778
Looks positively greek. The only people surprised by this are the /pol/tards who fell for the rape fantasy memes

>>1918321
been awhile since I've seen that image

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>>1914839
they even published a picture of how exactly he looked like

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>>1916087
Here another reconstruction, looks a bit like a Mongoloid.