Pericles vs Cleon

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>>1914137
Themistocles

Cleon was just an idiot who stumbled into success

t. Thucidydes

>>1914556
Pericles was ironpilled

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>>1914586
>>1914589
>>1914597
Thank you for responding space cowboys <3. As for my responses to you gentlemen:
>>1914586
Decent general/admiral but a poor political statesman and he got exiled in the end as so did not overcome the Athenian trend of turning on heroes so I didn't include him.
>>1914589
Thucidydes haaaaates Cleon to the point where he must have had a personal vendetta against him so everything he says about Cleon should be taken with a pinch of salt. Having said that their must have been basis for this contempt as thus I agree with >>1914597 that Pericles was fucking based in terms of policy and political skill as he practically put Athens on the map funding culture that is still world renowned.

>>1914137
Based on Thucydides alone, Nicias was the most reasonable and pragmatic.
No idea how this corresponds to reality, since Thucc is pretty good at masking his biases.

>>1914637
cleon also got shat on constantly by aristophanes in hilarious ways

>An Ionian in the audience is imagined to say that the beetle represents Cleon since they both eat shit