What is /his/'s opinion on the British?

>>1906222
They are arrogant.

>>1906235
I'm still considered new here since I have only been lurking for about 2 months but it seems to me that the vast majority of Brit related posts are from Francaboos or Wehraboos trying to bait responses out of Brit posters.

Brits are arrogant on /int/, I find that most posts on here are just people who are venting because some guy with a British IP on /int/ said his country is shit.

>>1906222
>our greatest military achievement was not having a landbridge to europe

Did they ever win a war on their own?

>>1906222
They talk big about their military prowess, but only conquered primitive spearchuckers. When fighting against real opposition, they hide on their shitty island and let their "allies" do most of the fighting.

>>1906222
Arrogant country that only became so powerful because they had a sea between Britain and Europe, and solely fought countries far weaker than them.

>>1906222
They're superb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrauBQf7FpI

>>1906235
>>1906264
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>>1906280
>>1906282
t.butthurt frogs

>>1906299
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>>1906222
>lions
wtf they're not even native to Britain

>>1906280
When the British encounter a strong enemy and don't have an "ally" to fight for them, they do this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Singapore
And they think they can make fun of the French...

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>>1906222
/his/ is full of buttblasted frogs, krauts and taigs so you're not going to get a good response. Success breeds jealousy after all.

>>1906222
nice trips

they have the best nationalism along with the dutch
if i was to be nationalistic about one country id choose dutch or british

>>1906361
>best nationalism
>dutch
Why would you be proud of being from a country that's done literally nothing since the Napoleonic Wars?

>>1906280
What's so bad about conquering spear chuckers?
Isn't that quite a bit smarter than tearing yourself to pieces against equally strong mainlanders?

>>1906391
>t.belgian frog

>>1906393
>What's so bad about conquering spear chuckers?
Being proud of it. It's like beating the crap out of a 5 year old kid and bragging about how strong you are.

>>1906307
The lion being the British animal comes from medieval heraldry and many rulers or knights attaining the title 'the lion'.

They're ok, personally when I went to the UK I had an alright time. The only problem was I cant agree with their food, the way they eat is disgusting.
>beans and eggs in the morning
The spray tans were gross too but only chav whores had spray tans.

>>1906576
>I cant agree with their food, the way they eat is disgusting.
That's a problem with all north european countries. Their food is horrible, maybe with a tiny amount of exceptions.

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>>1906647
>>1906576

>Not enjoying a full English breakfast

Wew lad.

>>1906222
Brexit

>>1906251
>Francaboos
who would align themselves with those snail-slurping, frog cookers?

>>1906413
That would certainly make you stronger than a 5 year old though

>>1906647
I think its to do with the cooler climate limiting the pallet of spicier or sweeter foods.

>>1906757
I said "maybe with a tiny amount of exceptions".
English breakfast is nice (except of the beans of course) but you hardly have anything else that's good.

>>1906222
I like their music and their television. But the people can fuck off.

All the stereotypes about jews would fit the british far better

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>>1906784
>America would lose to the 5 year old and still brag about how strong they are

>>1906775
A good chunk of this board. There are far more ouiaboos and germaboos than angloboos.

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Success breeds jealousy

>>1906222
their entire history is all about trolling people in increasingly hilarious ways

>>1906846
France lost to that same 5 year old

it was kinda funny

Shit at war, art and philosophy.

Not as toxic as the French or as deadly as the Germans or as cucked as the Swedes. Still infected with slave morality.

Frogs on damage control

>kick out all foreign powers and conquer India
>they were weak and couldn't fight us

>BTFO'd China
>s-so

>destroy France's navy in the Napoleonic wars and hold naval hegemony throughout the world for a century
>th-they would never win against us in a land war

>Win both world wars
>b-but they had allies

>>1907089

Also atrocious at economics. We still haven't gotten rid of Keynesian economics, ie socialism-lite.

>>1907095
But France and Britain BTFO'd China together
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Opium_War

>>1907107
But England did it alone in the first one

>>1907095
>BTFO'd China
Who didn't?

>destroy France's navy in the Napoleonic wars and hold naval hegemony throughout the world for a century
If it wasn't for Russia, Napoleon would have built a navy or an air force and eventually conquered you

>Win both world wars
Carried by France in WW1 and by America in WW2

>>1907107
>Being proud of the most immoral war of all of history
This is why Bongs are hated so much

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>>1907102
>Keynesian economics
>bad

>>1907116
There is no such thing as a moral war.

>tfw brit who really likes french history

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>>1907114
And?
France too BTFO China alone
That's how they got Vietnam

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>>1907118

>government expending 50% of the national income
>good

>>1907119
Wanting to force a country's inhabitants to be addicted to a drug so you can profit from selling the drug is the most fucked up justification ever conceived for starting a war

>>1907089
war
>conquers third of the Earth

art
>steals most of it

philosophy
>lays the groundwork for modern democracy

>>1907131
need to pay the bills some how

>>1907131
Chinese were dicks and west would've been fucked over by them if they went the legit route

so they did the non-legit route

>>1906784
Dont forget, beating 4 5 year olds is equal to beating 1 20 year old.

>>1907125

>. Although the Chinese armies performed better than in other nineteenth-century foreign wars and the war ended with French defeat on land,[1] the French gained most of the aims they wanted in the Treaty of Tientsin.[6]
>French defeat on land,[1]

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>>1907188
It's a false claim from butthurt chinks, check the "source"
There's a reason why Vietnam (which is a land and not a sea) ended at French hands

>>1906222
the real bad guys of history who got away with everything

>>1907205

>Bruce A. Elleman (2001). Modern Chinese warfare, 1795-1989 (illustrated ed.). Psychology Press. p. 90. ISBN 0-415-21474-2. Retrieved 2012-01-18. "who had been in Tonkin for only three months, took command. He immediately ordered the evacuation of Lang Són. Although Herbinger may have been retiring to the more strongly fortified positions further south, the retreat seemed to many to be the result of panic. Widely interpreted as a Chinese victory, the Qing forces were able to capture the strategic northern city of Lang Són and the surrounding territory by early April 1885. China's forces now dominated the battefield, but fighting ended on 4 April 1885 as a result of peace negotiations. China sued for peace because Britain and Germany had not offered assistance as Beijing had hoped, and Russia and Japan threatened china's northern borders. Meanwhile, China's economy was injured by the French "naval interdiction of the seaborne rich trade."197 Negotiations between Li Hongzhang and the French minister in China were concluded in June 1885. Although Li did not have to admit fault for starting the war, Beijing did recognize all of the French treaties with Annam that turned it into a French protectorate."

>>1907250
Exactly
Basically the Chinese didn't perform better than before (if you look at most battles of the war it's often a few thousands frogs defeating dozens thousands of chinks), but one French fuck up at the end (unjustified retreat by a general for political reasons rather than military nones) is often wrongly interpreted as a Chinese "victory", even though it ultimayely bore no signifiance and failed at kicking the French from Vietnam

>>1907134

>modern democracy

you mean worst democracy?

>>1907269

In a war, if you fail and your enemy succes, is an enemy victory, even more so if your enemy gets the field without needing to fight for it.

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>>1907188
>>1907250
>>1907292
Basically what happened is that, while the French were about to enter Chinese mainland (the war was initially in Vietnam), some French general decided to retreat in protest to pilitical stuff occurring in France and the Chinese used the withdrawaol of French forces to occupy one city (not even the most important or biggest one).
There wasn't even a fight for that city.
Claiming that Chinese forces had performed well in that war is pure bullshit, they got BTFO in every engagement (pic related)

The thing with the irrelevant Lang Són retreat is that it happened to be the very last ""action"" of the war because the Chinese, knowing well that the French would retake the place anyway and eventually invade China, decided to sue for surrender just after.
This is why now Chinese nationalist try to use that event to cliam that China "won" (lmao) that war

>>1907116
Well maybe they wouldn't have burnt down the Summer Palace if you hadn't killed British envoys you butt-blasted Chink

>>1907349
>This is why now Chinese nationalist try to use that event to cliam that China "won" (lmao) that war

Don't forget how the Chinese try to claim they won the 1979 war against Vietnam. Chinese will try to spin every defeat into a victory; and if they can't do that, they'll claim that Chinese have never been aggressors.

What's funny is the French always say
>Y-YOU CAN ONLY BEAT SPEAR THROWERS

Yet they conveniently forget that the French """empire""" was ALSO fighting to rule those spear throwers and got BLOWN THE FUCK OUT by the British.

>WE DIDN'T EVEN WANT THAT TERRITORY ANYWAY
>WE DIDN'T EVEN WANT INDIA EVEN THOUGH IT WAS FULL OF RESOURCES
>WE DIDN'T EVEN WANT AFRICA EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A LITERAL FUCKING GOLDMINE
>WE DIDN'T EVEN WANT THE MIDDLE EAST EVEN THOUGH IT HAD ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE RESOURCES AT THE TIME (oil in case you didn't know)

Pathetic.

Britain is literally at the apex of diplomacy. Theyre the only empire where they can turn their fucking enemies against their other enemies and still come out of it smelling like roses.

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>>1907459
>Yet they conveniently forget that the French """empire""" was ALSO fighting to rule those spear throwers and got BLOWN THE FUCK OUT by the British.

That's false for the biggest part of the Empire actually
You have to remember that 80% of the British Empire was built after 1815 (pic related, the Empire in 1815) and that after that date, Britain didn't fight other european colonial powers anymore

>>1907472
You're talking about the height of the empire. During the rush for Africa and the "new world" Britain beat France to the line plenty of times for territory and the French frequently ignore it.

The French wanted exactly what the British had. They like to pretend that Britain "only ruled shitholes" yet given the chance, they'd rule those "shitholes" themselves.

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>>1907484
>During the rush for Africa and the "new world" Britain beat France to the line plenty of times for territory and the French frequently ignore it.

The rush for Africa was in the late 19th century, retard
And Britain didnt fight any european there

As for North America, Britain outnumbered the French 4 to 1 there to steal their colony while they were busy in Europe (and yet it still took the Brits a decade to win)

Face it, Britain have no impressive record when fighting europeans

>>1907472
Funny that.

I wonder what happened in 1815.

>>1907508
>yet it still took Britain a decade to win
Do you actually understand how guerilla warfare works?

>>1907508
>Face it, Britain have no impressive record when fighting Europeans

Literally never denied this, hence my point that Britain is top tier when it comes to diplomacy. While other Europeans where clashing their heads together fighting over petty territory in Europe the British were making gains WORLDWIDE

Face it. While the French claim "MUH GLORY" the British were building the largest empire in history.

I'll happily admit a war between the British army and the French army would result in a victory for the French but IT LITERALLY DOESNT MATTER. The French failed at building an empire and the British capitalised on their strategic position (an island)

Also the battle of Trafalgar proved that the British were gods of the sea. At the time, that's all that mattered for a global empire.

>>1907115
>Napoleon would have built a navy or an airforce
>airforce


Are you fucking retarded, mate?

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>>1907547
>Napoleon also seriously considered using a fleet of troop-carrying balloons as part of his proposed invasion force and appointed Marie Madeline Sophie Blanchard as an air service chief, though she said the proposed aerial invasion would fail because of the winds.[4] (France's first military balloon had been used in 1794 by Jean-Marie Coutelle.[5])
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon%27s_planned_invasion_of_the_United_Kingdom

Basically he abandoned the idea because he was in a rush and it required to much preparation, but given enough time...

>>1907558
>proposed French inavsion of the United Kingdom

Stopped reading right there. Once the British realised that the Royal Navy was their best asset it was basically an impossiblity without a huge coalition

>>1907558
>but given enough time...

Given enough time he would have experienced a more catastrophic loss than Russia.

I'm no supporter of the eternal Anglo but he would have been blown the fuck out at sea, this is just an objective fact.

>>1907594
France literally just had to build a huge navy
It could easily had been done once France had achieved hegemony on the continent by 1811

Had Napoleon decided to focus the effort on building a navy instead of invading Russia, it' would have been ready for 1815 and Britain would have fell

>>1906222
This isn't /int/ haha

>>1907508
>Face it, Britain have no impressive record when fighting europeans
kek who cares?
Britain amassed the mightiest Empire in history and became the richest nation in the world off the back of it, and much of it through diplomacy and common sense rather than costly warfare. As a result, that shitty little archipelago off Northern Europe is a major world economy even today, and became so at the expense of few lives.

The French get butthurt because they can't stand the idea that the inbred clowns they castigate at every opportunity, who're ugly and stupid and culturally inferior, bested them.

>>1907610
If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle

>>1907614
>Britain amassed the mightiest Empire in history

Largest, not mightiest (far from it)
The British Empire at its height struggled for 4 years against lone Germany while being carried by France, greatly aided by Russia and eventually bailed out by the US

>>1907622
That's such a 20th century thing to say...
I bet you're a cis-gendered scumbag

>>1907623
Economic might is just as important as military might on the stage of world affairs.

>>1907623
Colonial territories don't help in a european land war. Britain had millions of Indian volunteers, but no way of getting them to Europe.

>>1907633
>Colonial territories don't help in a european land war.

Hence why owning many shitholes around the world doesn't make you the mightiest empire ever

>>1907610
>France literally just had to build a huge navy

Yeah and what do you think the British would have done to counter this?

>Sir, the French are building a large fleet!
>Better just ignore them m8

They would have built a bigger navy. The British could build faster than the French at the time and invested HEAVILY in their navy (see: building a massive fucking navy)

They would have just ramped up their ship production and countered it since they already had the numerical advantage in ships anyway.

>>1907659
Except the plan was to buld the navy directly in Boulogne
Even if the British had a big and good navy, the Channel is so tiny that a couple thousands of French troops (enough to conquer Britain and their joke army) would be able to cross it during the fight

The issue with the initial plan (and the reason why Trafalgar happened) was that the French fleet had to be brought from the Mediterranean to the Channel

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>films Frenchmen and women will NEVER understand

>>1907699
Why not women though?

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>>1907123
There is this French painter who really liked brit history and even made paintings about it.

>>1907719
Unless they have dedicated a significant amount of effort to learning about something that they as a group were not directly a part of, then they will have a less complete understanding of the culture and ideas being presented.

>>1907741
What culture and what ideas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66owXqZaexs

>>1907719
It's a meme from /tv/ and frequently crops up in "films women will NEVER understand" threads.

It's to do with the fact that the cast is filled with men and shows comradery and bravery.

Speaking of films, can we all at least agree that Lawrence of Arabia is the one of the greatest films ever made?

Why don't other nations have heroes like him? You don't hear anything about Pierre of Asia or Hans of Africa

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>>1906280
>Britain only ever beat primitive savages
See, this is what I keep saying, but for some reason the French and Spanish insist on pretending that they're civilised.

>>1907793
It has substantially more to do with how women, in general, aren't interested in maritime culture on an operational level, and will the vast majority of the detailing work that went into the film.
There are plenty of films about comradery and bravery for women.

>>1907845
>and will miss
I accidentally a word.

>>1906282
So exactly like the US then?

>>1907826
SAVAGE
A
V
A
G
E

Bredy good overall, but the glory times are over.

>how come an island nation doesn't have large land army

cucktinentals are funny

>>1907845
>There are plenty of films about comradery and bravery for women.
How about you show us these films?

Depends which British.


Brit A:
>We were one of the big players of history. Yes, at times the Empire did questionable things but nothing contextually horrible or abhorrent by the standards of the time in many cases. The Empire made mistakes, and some of the nations who rebelled were just in doing so, even if it didn't really some help them in the long run. The Empire is gone and will never be back, but the British played a huge role in history. French and Spanish are pretty neat, too.

Brit B:
>MUH EMPIRE! BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES! ALL OTHER NATIONS ARE SHIT! LMAO EMPIRE REACHED ITS PEAK AFTER AMERICA REBELLED!! DIDN'T EVEN WANT SHITTY COLONIES! BREXIT RULE BRITANNIA, ALL OTHER NATIONS ARE INFERIOR


Brit A is generally ignored or bullied or else assimilated into the people on /his/ with an opinion worth a shit, Brit B is Australian-tier shitposter.

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>>1906222

Pretty based up until WW1, after which began the decline.

I now seem that as primarily a welfare dispensary for the third world and a nation busily engaged in its suicide.

The curtain call for Great Britain will likely happen in 50, 60 years or so, by which point it will be nothing resembling its history at all, except for some enclaves in the countryside.

>>1907869

See them*, fucking autocorrect

I wish the tea sipping stereotype was true, no culture loves tea anymore :(

>>1907861
WW2 Japan had a large army and conquered its continent

Meanwhile, Britain was never able to even win just one 1vs1 war against any continental european nation

>>1907881
What is Ireland?

>>1907869
>He thinks a nuclear armed nation will just fizzle away in our lifetime

Absolutely friendly reminder: If your country is not in possession of nuclear weapons (which they can actually use, not just storing for someone else) then you are LITERALLY not even fucking relevant.

It doesn't matter how great your economy is, how happy your people are, how much land you have. If you don't have AT LEAST second strike capability then you are at the mercy of anyone who does have those weapons.

You can be wiped off the face of the earth and you wouldn't even be able to deliver a final "fuck you" to the enemy because you don't have the capability.

>>1907886
Not a continental european nation ?

>>1907896
Then how is it in the EU?

>>1907886
Not a continental European nation, and the British had the advantage of Ireland being divided into warring kingdoms meaning they could use divide and conquer tactics. The Nine Years War against the O'Neills almost bankrupted England.

>>1907826
He said "conquered" Nigel. Keep posting the only time you did something on your own in the Napoleonic wars.

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>>1906235
irl Brits are the least arrogant people you'll ever meet, especially when it comes to expressions of national pride. Even the Swedes, who will quite happily tell you how shit all Swedish traditions are, act all smug about how perfect their little socialist paradise is. But Brits generally get uncomfortable when the issue of patriotism comes up, and can only say something vague like Britain believes in 'fairness'.

online, however, it's less easy to simply embarrass a Brit into silence. And when a Brit actually starts defending his country, well, naturally this shocks other nationalities who are used to Brits simply rolling over when the subject of how terrible Britain is comes up. After all, hasn't Hollywood made it quite clear that Britain has always been the villain in every historical context? (in situations where there might have been someone worse, like WW2, Brits are just edited out. see: Saving Private Ryan).

So when a Brit tries to defend what is obviously indefensible (i.e. their country), other nations perceive this as "arrogant". Naturally this usually leads to a massive argument, which does nothing to mollify the situation because, being supported by facts and logic as opposed to the rest of the world which just has been indoctrinated with the visceral feeling that the Brits must somehow always be the bad guys, the Brits usually win. Thereby seeming even more "arrogant".

case in point
>>49997621 (beginning of argument)
>>50012719 (end of argument)

>>1907917
Erm I think you're find Ireland is a part of the European continent you silly billy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_population

>French go to war with other European nations
>Conquer some of them
>Hold them for like 20 years
>Basically bankrupt themselves keeping it all together
>Get blown the fuck out in a coalition because literally everyone in Europe hates them
>Have absolutely nothing to show for it afterwards except "MUH GLORY"
>still hated to this day and have a reputation for being cowardly faggots who wouldn't fight to the death for their homeland (reminder, many fled to Britain where it was safe)

>Britain conquer a bunch of overseas territories
>profit MASSIVELY from it
>become not only the largest, but also the richest empire in history
>held it for more than a century and crushed almost every rebellion with ease
>Was the only European nation that didn't flop like a piece of wet fucking cardboard when the Nazis went mental
>have the language and culture spread worldwide because of America who liked them more than the French (which is hilarious since it was the French who got them their independence)

>Somehow this isn't seen as an achievement on /his/ because MUH NAPOLEON and circlejerking about European "empires" that lasted like 10 years

Wew.

>>1907959
>have the language and culture spread worldwide because of America who liked them more than the French (which is hilarious since it was the French who got them their independence)

Just what kind of """"""logic""""" is that. They were still anglos, how the fuck are they gonna change their own culture and language. Other former colonies still use the language of their invaders and they are not exactly anglos or francos.

>>1907886
>Anglos have to compare themselves to the military might of Ireland to feel mighty.
>Still lose to them.

>>1907826
there are some posts that just make me want to Rule Britannia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVzBcIXJXTo

>>1907933
>can only say something vague like Britain believes in 'fairness'
Very true. British identity is a reasonable thing to assume. The people of England, Scotland and Wales have a shared heritage going back more than 10,000-years, and since the 1707 Act of Union have achieved great things together. I am English, and by virtue of that, I am British too.
But the primary identity is - or at least should be - English, Scottish or Welsh. However, the notion of simply being 'British' has been pushed and pushed by the media as it is seen as more inclusive to the masses of immigrants who have flocked here since WWII. The Scots and Welsh are permitted their individual identities, if only because a large part of it centres around comparisons to English history and culture. But the English, accounting as they do for a far greater proportion of the UK population, have had their individual culture supplanted by a general British one.
This makes it easier to convince people that 'Britain has always been a nation of immigrants' and that because we have 'Angles and Saxons and Celts' we should have 'Nigerians and Bengalis and Martians'

Mansa Musa had more money than the British Empire at its peak though

>>1908108
oh, not this shit again. Mansa Musa had gold, not wealth. Money isn't any one physical commodity, money is whatever it gives you the power to do. And the British Empire was more powerful than Mali under Mansa Musa in the same way that a nuclear explosion is more powerful than a campfire.

See 17th century Spain for a lesson in the difference between having precious metals and actually being rich.

>>1908065
This is sadly so true, the amount of times I have seen black or asians saying "Britain has always been about immigrants, the angles, the jutes" it fucks me right off.

>>1908125
Gold is a very valuable commodity.

>>1908125
well i agree that the British Empire at its peak was more powerful than Musa's Mali

but not one 14th century European nation could of defeated Musa's Mali in a war

>>1907989
>still lose to them

THE GLORIOUS NATION OF IRELAND!*

*northern ireland sold separately

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>>1907865
There are many dozens of examples, but you would be better off asking a woman if you could ever find one that would talk to you.

>>1907865
Sex and the city 1 and 2

>>1908216
>"haha get a girlfriend NERD!"
>doesn't post an example

ok

>>1907959
>still hated to this day
By whom? France is one of the most popular countries worldwide, it is the top tourist destination. Only a few butthurt Brits and Americans on 4chan don't like France, most people do.

>>1906222

Say what you want about the Empire it built, but there's no disputing the islands of Britain punched well above their weight on the world stage.

>>1907881
Except Japan's army was also shit. It's just most of the time they were fighting the pathetically backwards China

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>>1908691
>Except Japan's army was also shit. It's just most of the time they were fighting the pathetically backwards China