>mfw I kill 60 million of my own people xD
Nobody cares because thy Chinese are a gazillion.
>60 million chinese
Nobody noticed
da tree of liberty blood of patriots fugggg
>just keep killing sparrows, it's fine
>people who aren't born because the parents didn't have children due to food shortage are considered to be killed
ebin
The holocaust was exaggerated but look at these hot stats from the black book of communism
>>1903122
>it a commushit claims 30 million died instead of 60 million therefore it's not that bad episode
>>1903129
Who claimed you cared about the morality of mass starvation when you don't care about the morality of it occurring in the present time
>>1903124
>literally every person ever that died in a capitalist society was a victim of capitalism!
>yeah but Stalin and Mao's """""""death tolls""""""""" are exaggerated, plus they weren't TRUE marxists anyway, checkmate porkyfags
>>1903136
>>literally every person ever that died in a capitalist society was a victim of capitalism!
That is the judgement on communism in which the black book is basically based. If you use it, it would be hypocritical not to use it elsewhere as the terms of which a society can be functional or not.
>>1903142
>That is the judgement on communism in which the black book is basically based
Because most of those deaths were specifically attributable to the policies enacted by the government. For example, Mao's Famine is the first time in the recorded history of China that every region suffered from famine
>>1903156
>Because most of those deaths were specifically attributable to the policies enacted by the government.
And if we use those same terms, you get bad news about Capitalism. You can't say "This is bad! Bad! Communists are evil!" when what you're using as a standard you fail at delivering to. It's really a nice way to instill propaganda.
>For example, Mao's Famine is the first time in the recorded history of China that every region suffered from famine
And today is the first age of the entire world where we have more wealth than to no what to do with, and situated it at the hands of the richest men of all of history.
More so, that the resource that could be optimized is at an all time low in optimization, the wealth isn't communal but personal. While mass starvation is occurring regardless
>>1903172
>And if we use those same terms, you get bad news about Capitalism.
Comparisons are impossible when /leftypol/ types simply write off any real-world regime based on Marxist principles as not indicative of "true" Communism. Anyone left attempting to defend real world politics against an imagined Utopia is obviously going to fail.
>"Look at all this environmental degradation! Capitalism strikes again!"
>"And the draining of the Aral Sea, Chernobyl, and other Soviet environmental failings?"
>"W-Well the USSR wasn't TRUE Communism! Obviously in TRUE Communism the environment would be protected!"
>More so, that the resource that could be optimized is at an all time low in optimization
And every recent attempt at central planning has failed. This isn't getting into the fact that the current system is unsustainable, given peak oil
>>1903233
Except nobody really says "not muh true communism" except either people trying to pretend to be communists or uneducated people who don't post on leftypol or communist circles.
It's generally agreed upon that there are attempts at communism that can be disagrees with or did not end well, but to suggest every single person has ultraleftist opinions is ridiculous.
Don't make this argument about semantics