>literally undefeated

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> 30 years after Poland saved Austria, Austria invaded and divided Poland with Russia and Prussia.

>>1900122
could winged hussars beat Panzers?

>>1900182
It's would be rather hard considering hussars weren't a thing since first half of XVIII century

>>1900122
Did they have to earn their wings or were they just given to them?

>>1900200
They were optional.

>>1900122
>undefeated

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Zhovti_Vody

>>1900294
>posts battle that didn't involve hussars
k

>>1900307
>There was a banner of hussars involved in the battle
>"posts battle that didn't involve hussars"

k pollack, you got your ass handed down by a bunch of bald men with ridiculous moustaches.

>>1900344
>hohol alternative history

>>1900122
Except by me

>>1900387
>hohol alternative history
>written by a pole

>>1900200
For you

>>1900122
For 127 years, yes.

>>1900122
>>literally undefeated
>>1900122
>>literally undefeated

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Warsaw_(1656)

Battle notable for mass slaughter of hussars.

>>1900294
>hohols taking a shit on their homeland
>getting RUSE'd later
>>1901774
Prussian traitor scum.

>>1901774
>consolidating his position before the Polish hussars could react

C'mon now.. you can do better

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>>1901804
No, they can't. They got fucked in almost every fair battle.

>>1901804

You should read more than just Wiki article. The Husaria was broken during that battle and virtually disappears as a unit for some years.

>>1901821
>pospolite ruszenie
>which included only 950 Winged Hussars - 8 banners
You should read what "Pospolite ruszenie" is. Swedes and Prussian scum didn't fight the elite, they fought common shitty folk.

>>1901832

950 hussars was the absolute max that the Commonwealth could field at the time.

Don't get me wrong. I believe that the Husaria was a magnificent unit. But it was far from unbeaten and far from everything that made the Commonwealth's military so capable. It should be also noted that starting from late 17th century, the Husaria was increasingly incapable of satisfactory performance. The Moldavian campaigns of Sobieski were a chain of embarrassments and hetman Jablonowski reportedly in desperation ordered the hussars to broke their lances. Partially as a punishment for poor performance, partially as an attempt to shift their tactics into supportive role.

>>1901817
>almost every
>lists few

lmao

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>>1902086
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karksi_(1600)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Daugavgriva_(1609)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Salis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_P%C3%A4rnu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kircholm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Weissenstein
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rakvere_(1603)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Weissenstein
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Reval_(1602)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fellin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kokenhausen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wenden_(1601)


Want more? :^)

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>>1902095
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trzciana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Treiden_(1628)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Oliwa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dirschau
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Czarne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gniew


Don't get me wrong, Sweden was a powerful enemy, but only when Poland-Lithuania started to collapse - Swedes managed to get the upper hand.

>>1902103
How was France so populous?

>>1900294
>1000 Poles, including ~100 winged hussars vs over 10k Cossacks and Tatars
>Battle lasts for over 2 weeks
>Ends in agreements, Poles are allowed to leave
>Khmelnytsky breakes agreements and ambushes retreating forces
>Cossacks and Tatars got repulsed again, encircled Poles defend for 2 more days
>Poles successfuly break for encirclement, but are to few and to tired, got stopped again
>Cossacks And Tatars this time win, after few attacks and heavy artillery fire
Sounds like winged hussars actually did great job.

>>1902103
Now go look at battles after 1630

>>1901848
Commonwealth fielded over 5k winged hussars in 1610 during Polish–Muscovite war and 8280 winged hussars in 1621 during Polish–Ottoman war
>It should be also noted that starting from late 17th century, the Husaria was increasingly incapable of satisfactory performance.
That part is true. Lack of numbers, discipline, good equipment, morale and training. Late 17th/early 18th century winged hussars had very little common with ~100 years earlier version of them.

>>1902302
>Commonwealth fielded over 5k winged hussars in 1610 during Polish–Muscovite war and 8280 winged hussars in 1621 during Polish–Ottoman war

So? In 1656 the Commonwealth was in the 8th year of war that ravaged its heartland and suffered horrific defeats along the way, like Batoh of 1652 where the core of professional army died.

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If they was undefeated, how they lose their country?

>>1902306
Civil wars are always !fun
>like Batoh of 1652 where the core of professional army died.
Well technically they didn't die in battle. They were slaughterer afterwards.
Probably worst battle in Polish history. It opened doors for Swedish Deluge, as there were no professional army to stop them, which ended in yet more battles lost, country pillaged and population killed.

>>1902307
I didn't know that Danzig/Gdańsk were Russian.

>>1902103
France always had the upper hand when it came to population, specially when compared to its arch rival England, I think they main reason they never pushed far beyond their borders was the huge amount of in-fighting that the feudal system caused and the fact that its nobility was notoriously incompetent and big time luxury spenders. With a more organized system of government they could have taken at least Iberia long before britain became relevant.

>how many Polacks does it take to capture Stockholm?
12

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_%C5%81aski
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Laski

>>1902288
>Now go look at battles after 1630
Yeah, when PLC started to go down to the shitter.

>>1900174
More like 100 years after the commonwealth saved Austria.