Based Jimmy Carter

This is a good thread

Tell me more about Carter, please. Literally all I learnt in high school history was the whole embassy hostage issue.

>>1898405
He has done tons of work with Habitat for Humanity since the '80s. He runs an annual homebuilding drive where they build homes for people all over the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_%26_Rosalynn_Carter_Work_Project

He also won a Nobel Peace Prize, started the Dept. of Energy and the Dept. of Education, and he beat the shit out of cancer at age 90.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter

>>1898450
>nobel peace prize
lol

but seriously, a man who tried to get metric to the states deserves respect.

>>1898452
Oh now we're shitting on the Nobel Prize. What have you done with your life?

best president

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>>1898286

>>1898450
Don't forget he's the only president to have claimed to have seen a UFO.

>>1898457
>nobel prize for peace
>given to a girl who got shot in the head.
>given to random bishops and priests
>given to obongo because of reasons
>given to anyone that protested against the big bad gommie
>not given to the biggest apostle of peace in the modern world.
>worth anything.
the peace prize is a fucking joke moron. Me shitposting on 4chan doesn't change that.

>>1898286
Jimmy Carter was ahead of the game when it came to conserving energy.

>>1898948
inb4shitstorm

>>1898948

umm, racist???

>>1898620
Jimmy Carter isn't one to lie. Maybe he really did see one or maybe he saw something that he couldn't explain so he believed it must of been a UFO.

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MALAISE FOREVER

>>1898975
umm, nigger???

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Nixon easily.
Pretty much all his personal tapes point to a man that cared very much for his country's future and was aware of the history of empires.
He's also the reason why there's at least some civility in relations with China.
Bonus points for shitting on California's elite for being utter degenerates and wanting to spread it.

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>>1898286

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>>1899271

>>1898948
>>1899271
Double post of same picture confirms it.

>>1899276
Carter the fuckboi*

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>>1899282
Cant Shimmy the Jimmy

>>1898286

After taking an economics class, I've come to the conclusion that peacetime presidents are remembered almost entirely based on how the economy was while they're in office. A peacetime president with numerous scandals will remembered well if the economy was good during his turn. Conversely, a president who has a clean record will be remembered poorly if the economy was bad while he was in office.

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>>1898286

>>1899265
He also commited treason. For America though.

>>1899355
Makes sense.
What can we conclude from war time presidents then?

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>>1898286

>>1899403

Wartime presidents tend to be remembered very well in general, with Bush II being the notable exception.

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Nixon was pretty damn progressive when it came to woman rights. Pretty based honestly.

>>1899448

When Watergate first came out, nobody gave a fuck. It only became an issue after the economy went sour and people started demanding blood. If Nixon could have completed his term before the business cycle started to slow down, he would have never been impeached.

Consider this a sequel to my post: >>1899355 here.

>>1899265
can someone explain his role in sabotaging the Saigon talks
i want to accept him as based but that looks bad

>>1899409
The biggest problem was the stagflation which Carter intensified causing more poverty than he solved.

Also the problem with the Susan B Anthony coin was that it resembled a quarter.

>>1899540

>no based Eisenhower

Jesus

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Underrated president coming through.

>>1899636
>two non-consecutive terms

How did the mad-man do it?

>>1899536
Through intermediaries, Nixon told the South Vietnamese ambassador to not negotiate with the North until he got elected. Nixon was known to be a hard anti-Commie and assured the South Viets that he would bring them better terms. That is INCREDIBLY reckless and illegal for a former Vice-President to do.

I wouldn't say I'm an admirer of Nixon because for such a brilliant man (especially in geopolitics), he was incredibly lacking in ethics. But this as well as Watergate blackened his reputation and administration. If he had the good sense to not do either shit, he would've finished his 2nd term with honor.

>>1899636
His first term was great, but his second term had him give in too much to big business. I'm all for free enterprise, but the later trusts had to be busted.

I do give Cleveland credit though for being an efficient and honest administrator; something you rarely see in politics. He's probably the most overlooked Democratic president; especially when you realize between Johnson and Wilson, he was the only Democratic president. The rest were all Republicans.

>>1899448
Nixon was economically liberal and socially conservative; a curious mix compared to his Rockefeller Republicans and the neo-cons of the Reagan 80's. In some regards, he did the right thing, on others, he was WAY off track.

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>Forty years ago this month, Lyndon Johnson was agonized to know that Americans thought of him as the architect not of equal rights and Medicare but the hated Vietnam War. Feeling like an unappreciated outcast, the ex-president, often depressed, repeatedly listened to Simon & Garfunkel’s “Bridge Over Troubled Water.” It sounds incredible that LBJ should be attracted to that anthem by the passionately antiwar singers, until you remember the lyrics: “When you’re weary, feeling small, when tears are in your eyes… And friends just can’t be found…”

>Johnson had suffered three major heart attacks and knew he did not have long to live. He incessantly recalled that Johnson men died before reaching 65 years old, and he was 64.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/lbjs-last-interview/

>>1899409
Carter was a good man, but wasn't up for President. You need to have a certain degree of ruthlessness and political decisiveness as a head of government; Carter did not have these qualities and the nation paid for it dearly.

>>1899686
This is why Presidents should be content in being in office for one term. Only 2 Presidents had successful administrations with 2 terms; Theodore Roosevelt and Calvin Coolidge.

If Johnson just finished out Kennedy's term, he'd be highly regarded for the Civil Rights Act as well as his job growth legislation. Maybe not in the top tier, but certainly higher than his current status.

>>1898620
Didn't Truman or Eisenhower also claim to see one?

>>1898286
maybe after his presidency but during his presidency it was rather lack luster.

>Bad Call on the mid east crisis

>Good call on the deregulation of the economy with Alfred E Kahn

He split the Department of Health, Education and Welfare into more specialized branches Department of Education and Department of Health and Human Services for better over site as well as better management.

Shut down the Briggs Initiative, /pol/ would be outraged but personally I don't really care. He dropped top rate taxes from 98% to 28%, Created 103 million acres of National Park Land in Alaska. He added NHI tax 1.45%. Tried to create cost controls on healthcare but was defeated. Created the Department of Energy to conserve energy, which now makes it impossible for America to export a very limited select amount of oil. Created price controls on oil and gas lines which lead to severe shortages. He signed the National Energy Act and Public Utilities Regulatory Policy Act. These lead to the initial start for the Green Energy Industry.

With the first 2 years of his presidency as pretty comfy with growth and no real "crisis" on hand it was kinda looking like he was going to be a 2 term president until the shit hit the fan. With the Oil shortages and double digit inflation in the second half. He appointed Volkner but unfortunately with all things economic wise, shit doesn't turn on a dime.

>>1898286
this is the most contrarian opinion in the united states

carter and the 70's were shit

>>1898286
the only people who like jim are the dumb hicks who voted for him

>>1899492
>When Watergate first came out, nobody gave a fuck. It only became an issue after the economy went sour and people started demanding blood.

For real?

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a given

>>1900110
He gave us Social Security. A bomb that's going to go off in a few years.

We need to raise the retirement age, but senors give us hell whenever we tell them that.

>>1899973

You can get away with anything if the market is good while you're in office. Conversely, if the market is bad while you're in office, you can't get away with anything at all. You can also see this in terms of how authority figures (government officials, corporate leaders, etc) are portrayed in movies. When the economy is bad, the authorities are portrayed as corrupt, incompetent, wasteful, ineffectual, etc. When the economy is good, those same types of people are portrayed as benevolent protectors working for the good of society.

>>1900128
>A bomb that's going to go off in a few years.
Even if you're right, it served us well for 80 years, which is pretty impressive.

>>1899718
I'm trying really hard to refute that, but as far as my limited memory goes, that actually sounds right. Neat idea.

>>1900141
what a useless post, I'm asking about watergate I don't need a high schooler to explain the world in general to me.

>>1900153
He gave old people the idea that they're entitled to a retirement paid for by current young workers. It's a ponzi scheme.

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>>1899448
I used to think positively of Nixon. Now my opinion is more mixed.

Ending Breton Woods was a crime against humanity. I accept that thanks to the Triffin Dilemma he had to do it, and that ultimately the system was set up to fail from the beginning because it used the USD instead of the Bancor, but ultimately the fact he didn't try and reform the system and instead unilaterally ended it falls on his shoulders.

The removal of capital controls and subsequent unleashing of globalisation has caused both economic and political troubles that we still face to this day. Democracy is weakened by the need to always keep our eyes on the international financial markets, always fear capital flight if we put up taxes, always fear economic interventionism.

Wages have stagnated in the first world so that we can buy goods more cheaply from the third (where they are manufactured without account for the conditions of workers) instead of retaining parity and manufacturing domestically.

I usually have these thoughts much more coherently articulated. Nixon was an impressive man and it's very well to say that in the circumstances of the time getting the world's nations to agree to a reformed Breton-Woods system was all but impossible, but the consequences of that failure will be with us for a long time. 2008 perhaps provided another chance, but we refused it to our peril.

>>1899718
He stayed a second term because he thought he could do more, and he loved being in charge. His second term did see some important legislation, but you're right that Vietnam ruined it. He actually played a major role in brokering the peace after he was no longer in office though. That's why I take issue with >>1899448. Other than opening China, Nixon just built on LBJ's work. Johnson initiated arms talks, was probably more invested in Civil Rights than any other President, and began passing Environmental Protection Laws before the creation of the EPA. Even though they hated each other, Nixon and Johnson were both pretty good Presidents.

>>1901399

I don't think it makes sense to attribute it to anything the government did, or anything anyone did, really. It's just the result of falling iq, ever increasing autism, and ever increasing degeneracy of society. The proximate causes only make it happen faster

With that said,

>capital controls
>interest rate deregulation
>ending of Bretton Woods

Mah nigga

>Adding Departments
>Increasing the size of the Federal Government
>based

>>1899797
>deregulation of the economy with Alfred E Kahn
>dropped top rate taxes from 98% to 28%
Wait, so he's to blame for those? Always thought that was more a Reagan kind of thing.
Kind of like it if true, though. It makes it feel more like a move of desperation than an ideological move, which in turn adds to the tragedy that was the collapse of what in the UK was called the postwar consensus and which had some similarities to the general economies of the world from 1945-1979/early 80s. (i.e. stagflation largely caused by oil price fuckery which would resolve itself in time, but during the intervening period neoliberal ideologues managed to take power during a crisis and push their ideology.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kakFDUeoJKM
To be honest while I definitely did enjoy watching it, this has filled me with a deep malaise.

I think it's because of the part where he talked about how people are obsessed with what they can consume, while I know with hindsight we were teetering on the consumerist 1980s (where he'd be told to fuck off) and we've continued down the path of consumption to this day.

Consumerism is a disease.

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What about this guy?

I LIKE IKE

>>1898575
Fuck off conservative scum, he literally did nothing. Actually, nothing at all.

>carter tells americans to live within their means, conserve energy, good long-term thinking
>hated by everyone
>reagen encourages consumerism, living above your means, getting mortgages and insurances you can't afford
>loved by everyone

I guess Americans just like to be fat, hooked on anti-depressants and polluting the environment.

>>1902998
>>carter tells americans to live within their means, conserve energy, good long-term thinking
see, this is what bugs me.
why is he hated for that?

>>1902895

That's the point, it was a prosperous conflict/scandal free tenure and he didn't fuck around trying to do unnecessary shit.

>>1903049

DON'T TREAD ON ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

1: people don't like hearing bad things
2. he was disliked for plenty of other things and would have been viewed as the reason for less optimism

>>1903049
He wasn't successful enough for his supporters to defend him, he wasn't even that interested in defending himself. He's just an easy target.

>>1900320
Families are ponzi schemes, too?

>>1899448
The way you phrased that makes it seem like he personally broke into the DNC headquarters.

He didn't nor did he condone those kinds of actions, but out of loyalty to his party he covered up for the people who did break into the DNC headquarters.

Or that's what I've been led to believe.

>>1900128
What has made social security such a "bomb"?

How come it worked in the past?

Could increasing the employment rate amongst the young population cause the system to work again?

>>1903753
It's an empty right wing retard talking point as old as social security itself.

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>>1899540
>carter intensified stagflation
Bruh. He let Volcker cause a recession to stop stagflation, and it worked. The open market operations didn't end up curbing inflation until Reagan was president, but let's remember who appointed Volcker.

>>1900128
>a bomb that's going to go off in a few years
Sure thing buddy.

>>1898286

Carter is a bottom 5 president and this thread is shit

>>1903753

Social security is one giant ponzi scheme without enough new investors. It should be wound up tomorrow, but the government will continue it for as long as possible because it employs thousands and thousands of bureaucrats.

>>1903803

>>1903371

Putting younger generations to work for the generations before is just what families do.

>>1901472
You have to quit while you're ahead. Polk was a 1-term president and a very successful one at that. He's one of the few officials that kept all his campaign promises.

Nixon was intelligent and effective at administration, but he made a complete asshat of himself and stained the Presidency with his actions. I really don't care for him or Johnson to be honest though I do recognize that they pushed for vital bills that the nation needed.

>>1898930
> put solar panels on the white house
> Reagan took them off

>>1904489
why is this considered something to be bragged about by Republicans?

>heh he sure showed those envirocucks heh what a mad man

pathetic

>got elected only because Ford was an unelected president and tainted by Nixon.
>did the right thing in not giving up the Shah for the hostages.
>his economic policies lead to the boom times of Reagan.
>oil deregulation lead to downfall of soviet union.
>last honest man in washington that isn't a Paul.
>crisis of confidence speech

only screw ups
>after the first military rescue mission failed. he should have sent another.
>improper response to soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
>nuclear moratorium after 3 mile island. basically killed the conversion to all nuclear power in the USA.
>crisis of confidence speech

>>1904503

>nuclear moratorium after 3 mile island. basically killed the conversion to all nuclear power in the USA.

This is the one that bothers me the most. Three Mile Island actually proved that modern reactors were fail safe. Even though there was a meltdown, all the radiation was contained.

>>1903049
Apparently the immediate reaction was actually rather positive, it's only with hindsight it's been taken negatively since things only got worse for him.

But I've seen it said a few times that he was "Shirking his responsibility" and "Blaming the American people"

Which is what he gets for trying to appeal to personal responsibility. Americans only like personal responsibility as an excuse for not helping other people. If you actually want Americans to be responsible, you need to force them and alter norms that way because otherwise they're just going to misbehave.

>>1903803
You don't need new investors if you alter how it's contributed to/funded, though. We have an economic system predicated on continued growth. So long as you accept that, you can accept growing social security costs in turn.

(Though I don't know the nuances of funding social security in the USA and would quite like to see it eventually abolished and replaced with basic income, funded out of general taxation and in particular through taxing automated labour. a society where machines slave for human benefit)

>>1903049

>carter tells americans to live within their means, conserve energy, good long-term thinking

>why is he hated for that?

Nobody likes being told that their problems are at least partially their own fault and they need to improve themselves.

>>1902731
Mask was a pretty good biopic

>>1904647
>Three Mile Island actually proved that modern reactors were fail safe
Didn't TMI still have design flaws?

I'm vaguely reminded of Adam Curtis's A-is-for-Atom (a pretty good film all around about the interaction between science, engineering, politics and business.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ON-EnaRtAw

Though as they take pains to emphasise at the end, the form a technology has at the moment is not inevitably the form that technology must take. The problems of nuclear power were a result of political and economic compromise instead of an inherent flaw of nuclear technology.
With more political will or funding (or technological solutions to reduce the required commitment in those areas) there's absolutely nothing wrong with nuclear.

>>1904649
the whole issue for me is that the whole "you're just gonna have to accept that things are going to get worse and you need to learn to live with them" line of thinking will inevitably be used by Republicans to do shit like abolish social security and the minimum wage

>>1904722
I didn't take it that way to be honest (I took the more optimistic "We'll use less oil and resources, but science and technology will fill the gap and we'll be as prosperous as ever going forwards" view, possibly as I've seen what computers have done for entertainment.), though I suppose the average voter could fall for a stunt like that.

One would hope, however, that someone would be listened to if they pointed out that unless the economy actually went into decline (instead of just stagnating) there's absolutely no justification for such an action.

>>1904706

Yes, TMI had design flaws. I did an entire report on nuclear power a while ago but the details are kind of fuzzy. I'm just going to copy/paste directly from the report I wrote because I don't feel like writing it out again.

>On March 28, 1979, a pump in the plant's secondary coolant system failed, meaning that the system was unable to properly remove heat from the plant's water turbine. As designed, the plant's reactor automatically began to shut down the fission process when excessive heat was detected. More automatic safety measures kicked in, and a valve was opened up to lower the pressure in the system. The system worked as intended, pressure was reduced, and the reactor was shut down.

>This is where the real problem began: the pressure-release valve did not close when it was supposed to. The valve is supposed to open when there is overpressure and then close when things are back under control. The value opened properly when it was time to open but it did not close when pressure went back down. Due to poorly labeled buttons in the plant's control room, attempts to fix the problem only made it worse. A design flaw caused an indicator light in the control room to say that the valve was closed when it was actually open. The operators therefore misdiagnosed the problem and made a series of operating errors that caused the core to overheat. The containment structure became flooded with contaminated water, and a hydrogen bubble formed inside the reactor
.
>In the end, release of radiation from the Three Mile Island facility was prevented, because the containment structure did its job. Indeed, Pete Domenici even suggests that the incident could be offered as proof of nuclear safety because the systems, while flawed, were able to prevent any significant release of radiation despite a meltdown occurring. Three Mile Island continues to function to this day, although the reactor in which the incident occurred is now permanently shut down.

>>1898975
Andrew Jackson was that rare kind of crazy we don't make anymore. Besides, how can anyone hate the man who beat his Assassin to death with a cane, and went after the banks?

>>1904733
>(I took the more optimistic "We'll use less oil and resources, but science and technology will fill the gap and we'll be as prosperous as ever going forwards" view, possibly as I've seen what computers have done for entertainment.)
solar and nuclear revolution soon friend.

>>1904779
who needs that gay shit #shalegas #shaleoil

(Actually, I quite liked seeing how Carter made reference to it in the 70s. It's one of those technologies you tend to ignore until it comes up in the press, so it's always funny to see it pop up in the past.)

>>1898457
the npp has a lot more to do with money than it has to do with peace.

>>1904787
>lets fuck over the environment and clap because a bunch of bumfuck hillbillies are now millionaires.

Deep sea drilling is the patrician's oil source, especially now that the arabs fucked themselves in the ass with all their retarded exploitation policies.

Can an anti-carterfag give a coherent argument as to why he's shit?

Was Carter a better president than Reagan?

>>1898948
He defeated the bank, the bank that today rules the world in the former of the fed and other tendrils

I second this decision

>>1905015

Very much so.

>>1905020
In the form of the fed*

Fucking auto correct

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>>1905020

>Banks are bad guise
>Who gives a fuck about economic growth anyway

Jackson may have been justified in hating the bank back then because of how corrupt it was, but the modern day federal reserve is transparent and directly accountable to the people.

>>1905032
>the modern day federal reserve is transparent and directly accountable to the people.

Is this sarcasm? Irony? Satire?

I've only ever heard one type of person say this unprofitable and it was fed employees.

It's the scourge of the earth, fought against back then for the same reason it's bad now, grand and magnificient usury. It's privately owned, and there's zero good reason for it to be.

There a chart some where showing inflation rates and time since the fed opened in 1916 scaling linearly, to many thousands of % higher... whereas before there was none. When Wilson signed the federal reserve act he signed this nations death sentence.

>>1905058
>unprofitable
Unironically*
Jesus christ auto correct

>>1905058
>When Wilson signed the federal reserve act he signed this nations death sentence.
>Death sentence
>United States is currently many times more wealthy, powerful, and influential than it was in Wilson's time
what did he mean by this?

>>1905058

>There a chart some where showing inflation rates and time since the fed opened in 1916 scaling linearly

Well, I mean, if you say so. I mean, I haven't actually seen this chart, but you say that it exists and you've seen it and that's good enough for me anon.

>It's privately owned, and there's zero good reason for it to be.

Who is the owner? And no "DA JOOS" is not a valid answer.

>When Wilson signed the federal reserve act he signed this nations death sentence.

Yeah man, the country has suffered so much since then, what with winning two world wars plus the cold war and going to the moon.

>>1905064
>wealthy
18 trillion dollar deficit, we're actually millions of times poorer
>powerful
And the result is the above, because of this America cannot and will not last

Our days are numbered, economically.

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>>1905086

>Unemployment currently at 5% which is considered full employment levels

>Our days are numbered, economically.

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>>1905076
>Well, I mean, if you say so. I mean, I haven't actually seen this chart, but you say that it exists and you've seen it and that's good enough for
see attached image

>Who is the owner? And no "DA JOOS" is not a valid answer.
You tell me, you made the claim they were accountable to the public.

From what I've ready likely the Rothschilds, but it's largely unknown.

>Yeah man, the country has suffered so much since then, what with winning two world wars plus the cold war and going to the moon.
Like the British Empire which flourished after the founding of a privately owned central bank, it was temporary, Britain lost its empire, power and prestige after WW2, and so will we. A privately owned central bank steering fiscal policy leads to temporary success but ultimately failure and collapse, which we see now and today with an 18 trillion dollar debt and corruption rampant, and America getting worse by every metric by the decade.

>>1905021
Then why is Carter almost universally reviled as a president whereas 75% of Americans think Reagan was the second coming?

>>1905114
yes, middle class jobs being mostly outsourced, cheap labor flooding in, a collapsing infrastructure, an 18 trillion dollar debt, a failing US dollar, everything is fine lol.

>>1905136
Service sector jobs aren't being outsourced, senpai. Unless you're going to argue that America died in the 60s.

>>1905145
>an economy can flourish on service sector jobs
A nation needs to produce something in order to flourish, we've long since sold our means of production.

Right now it's just a jack off fest, we provide the world with virtually nothing, and of that, less and less. "Service jobs" alone create no wealth, which in turn does not improve the economy.

>>1905159
>sold our means of production.
fucking stupid faggot Americans you're supposed to SEIZE the means of production not SELL them

fucking burgers are never going to get it right

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>>1905136

>middle class jobs being mostly outsourced

Again, it doesn't matter. 5% is considered full employment by economists because it is pretty much impossible to get unemployment much further down than that regardless of what government policies are in effect. Some people are simply lazy and won't take jobs even when they're available. Some people are inherently unemployable because they have no useful skills and lack the motivation to acquire such skills. So there is always going to be a certain level of unemployment no matter what the government does (unless you live in a communist country where you get sent to a labor camp if you don't get a job, but that doesn't apply to the US).

>cheap labor flooding in

Unless you want to pay four times as much for good, you should be grateful for that. You should feel privileged that there are people who will do those shitty jobs so that you don't have to.

>a collapsing infrastructure

This is a fucking meme. Bridges in the US are not falling down left and right. Yes, somethings could be better, but a lot of that has to do with negligence on the state and local level. The Federal Government can only do so much.

>an 18 trillion dollar debt

Doesn't matter. The US is still rated as being 100% guaranteed to pay off debt over time.

>a failing US dollar

No, you're thinking of the UK pound failing apart after /pol/ successful tricked them into leaving the EU. Those gullible idiots.

>>1904006
I'm never sure how to feel about them myself. They were two of the most effective Presidents of 20th century, but they were such horrible human beings. I'm more sympathetic to Johnson now than I used to be (apparently every morning he would have the list of all the soldiers that died in Vietnam that day read off to him), but Johnson and Nixon were both the type that would happily blackmail someone to get a bill passed.

>>1905170
>Unless you want to pay four times as much for good, you should be grateful for that. You should feel privileged that there are people who will do those shitty jobs so that you don't have to.

If Americans were unwilling to do the jobs they do, the demand for employees of that job would increase, which in turn would increase the job's pay, which in turn would increase applicants, and the economy would reach equilibrium. That's a bullshit argument and I think you know it.

Not to mention it begs the question "who did it before the illegal immigrants"?

>a collapsing infrastructure
you're right building projects from the New Deal dotted across the United States are eternal. Also with our debt, we can easily afford to repair them when the time comes, right?

>Doesn't matter. The US is still rated as being 100% guaranteed to pay off debt over time.

The bill for the last 30 years has said otherwise, in fact to the contrary; and we're not even in wartime. In fact, supposedly, according to you we're "prospering" right now, so what's the deal?

>a failing US dollar

Again, see earlier chart, read about other nations beginning to drop the US dollar as the world reserve currency as it's becoming intrinsically more and more useless with nothing to back it up.

>>1905132

>Then why is Carter almost universally reviled as a president

The economy wasn't so hot when Carter was in office whereas Reagan entered office when the business cycle was going upwards creating the illusion that he was some kind of economic miracle worker when in fact his economic policies were disastrous and actually set the US down the course toward the amount of debt it is deal with today. Reagan was also supremely lucky in that the Soviet Union happened to collapse while he was in office, allowing people to claim that somehow he made it happen himself. Reagan was also really, really good at making nice warm & fuzzy speeches. Even I have to admit this is god-tier public speaking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=wfzAPT1vrAU

>>1905207
>Reagan was also supremely lucky in that the Soviet Union happened to collapse while he was in office
Correction: Soviet Union collapsed when Bush was in office.

>they don't know Reagan was a secret communist that wanted workers to own their workplace and considered it the future

>>1901790
Carter can be connected with the deregulation of the Airports and why we have so many different air transit companies, as well as the deregulation of micro breweries.

With the drop of the top tax rate he encouraged growth and Reagan expanded upon it. Reagan cut taxes across the board at 25% of their current tax rate.

He wasn't much of a foreign policy success show. Most of his overseas traveling was about global-warming/climate-change/energy-conservation and the world as well as america at the time mostly looked at it going "wut?" Main reason is because was because it was a brand new field of research that started with the EPA under Nixon. Carter is a text book example of Neo-Liberalism where Reagan can becalled "Neo-Conservative" but that was mostly due to major compromising with Congress, since he never had the house and lost the senate later. Where as Carter had both the house and senate. Difference being is though is back then Republicans and Democrats had a better similarity than the current political environment. Not do defend Reagan because I believe a lot of his tomfuckery is wrong.... looking at you Ollie North and Iran Contra affair.

If I was alive during Carter years, I'd probably be fine with a presidency under his.

>>1905123
Inflation isn't a big deal.

You have two options:
Steady, predictable inflation of a few % per year
Wild fluctuations between inflation and deflation, with consequential effects on economic growth.

>Britain lost its empire, power and prestige after WW2
Because of America. America explicitly set out to destroy the British empire. It didn't collapse because of central banking.

>>1905136
>middle class jobs being mostly outsourced, cheap labor flooding in, a collapsing infrastructure
This is the fault of 1973, not 1916.

Furthermore the USA remains the world's sole superpower. Russia and China are jokes. Even if China overtook the US economically, 13 aircraft carriers and functioning stealth aircraft among other things say America isn't going to die quietly.

>>1905170
>5% is considered full employment by economists because it is pretty much impossible to get unemployment much further down than that regardless of what government policies are in effect.
Not strictly true. Isn't it possible, but inflationary (because labour scarcity sets in among other things) so we're at "full economic employment" or such, where some people get to be unemployed just to hold down inflation. (Since the move from Keynesian "manage unemployment" economics to "manage inflation")

>>1905240
Inflation is a big deal, if it's ongoing and prices don't drop as it rises.

Commodities become more expensive with inflation. Everything becomes more expensive, gradually, with a more worthless dollar.

>>1905202
>Also with our debt, we can easily afford to repair them when the time comes, right?
Yes. The US dollar enjoys an exuberant privilege of being used for international financial transactions.
They can and do just create more dollars. This isn't going to lead to a prewar Germany situation because Hyperinflation is always caused by a massive economic shock instead of just "printing too much money."

>>1899686
>LBJ
>the architect of equal rights

LMAO

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>>1905255
>Commodities become more expensive with inflation. Everything becomes more expensive, gradually, with a more worthless dollar.
hmm...

>>1900128
>He gave us Social Security. A bomb that's going to go off in a few years.

t. republicans since the 1940's

>>1904495
in america, the environment is considered a political issue

>>1905268
gaming console prices over 2 decades are supposed to reflect commodity prices in general?

>>1905298
They're a useful example of the fact that inflation has done absolutely nothing to dent our ability to consume.

>>1905298
>high end consumer goods that require sophisticated technology to manufacture.
pretty good benchmark if you ask me.

>>1902895
he played hide and seek with his guards

>>1902895
small government anon :^)

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>No Eisenhower

Losers.

>>1902891
YOU LIKE IKE
I LIKE IKE
EVERYBODY LIKES IKE FOR PRESIDENT

Ads used to be so much better 60 years ago.

>>1900110
>executive order 9066
>executive order 9102

I'll still stick around to hear his fireside chats in hell, but there was nothing really based about this tyrant

>>1903810
You can leave a family and not do stuff for your parents without being put in jail.

>>1905114
The rate is literally so low because it actually only measures people LOOKING for jobs

lots of people have just given up

>>1905159
>service jobs alone create no wealth

If you go to get a haircut you are wealthier because you got a haircut and the barber is wealthier because he got your money. Wealth was created there.

Stop viewing commerce and wealth as zero sum you mercantilist retard.

>>1905268
This is more to do with better manufacturing and design along with other production factors keeping them cheap. The issue comes with things that can't outrun inflation to stay profitable and cheap at the same time.

>>1902731
Do you like football? Do you like nachos?

>>1898626
This
Nobel Prize is almost as worthless as a Pulitzer

>>1898975
>ummm
You. You are part of the problem in the modern age. The day will come when idiots of this caliber will become extinct.

>>1906171
I'm not sure if you're referring to the ironic shitposting problem, or the genuine retard problem.

Or if in your reference you encapsulate both because the world has become so meta nobody can tell anymore.

>>1906052
t. Keynes

>>1906247
Keynes was THE economist.