What the hell happened?

>when Catholics blame V2 for all the problems in their church
>when Catholics whine about "media persecution" during child-rape scandals, that're somehow either "overblown", "not happening anymore", or "not happening nearly as often as child-rape done by Rabbis or Protestant ministers"

>>1893460
The mass in Rome is still like your top image. Actually, it's like that in most Catholic Churches, I'm sure you'll find. The bottom image is the exception rather than the rule.

The second one's more historically accurate

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>What the hell happened?
progress, stop living in the past

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>>1893504
>The mass in Rome is still like your top image
Consider yourself lucky.
>Actually, it's like that in most Catholic Churches
More like this, I'm afraid.

>>1893527
>progress
How is this a "progress"?

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>>1893460
>>1893527
I told you
I told you about popes bro

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>>1893544
Jesus, how narrow-minded can you get? It's the current year.

>>1893549
You were right all along based Luther.

>>1893504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWo-7uVR8yI

>>1893582
I was destroying the Mass before it was cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lvU-DislkI

>>1893601
I wouldn't be surprised if Benny Hinn never heard of Luther

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>>1893601
meh, I find this version better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a54iqEr1flQ

>>1893601
Pentecostalism isn't Lutheran.

>>1893601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhGH4HaylaU

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>>1893638
It all derives from the same heresy - that there's no priesthood and no sacrifice of the mass. If there's no sacrifice, we can arrange our meeting whatever we want, singing psalms and reading Bible or rolling on the floor - it's all the same.
Same goes for the "catholic" church today.

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>>1893651
>the same heresy - that there's no priesthood and no sacrifice of the mass.
You mean that famous teacher of heresy the New Testament?

>>1893669
Next time, try English.

>>1893687
Do hablo engles, paco?

>>1893687
There's no priesthood and just one sacrifice in the New Testament

>>1893724
What do you call a "New Testament"? 27 books from KJV?

>>1893737
Matthew to Revelation.

>>1893669
>You are Peter and on this rock I build my Church
>I grant you the keys of Heaven, what you bind on Earth shall be bound in Heaven

Nice try heretic, go destroy Christianity elsewhere.

>>1893759
I don't see the word priest there, perhaps you meant to cite another passage?

>>1893766
The Apostles had the authority to create a priesthood and that's what they did.

Then Luther and Calvin without any authority destroy this structure for anarchy among Christians.

But hey at least this let German princes do the Christian act of sacking monasteries.

>>1893744
Because...?

>>1893788
First thing Luther and Crammer (and Bugnini) did was erasing the Psalm 42th from the Canons - because it had the word "altar" in it. Even worse - "the altar of God".

>>1893788
>The Apostles had the authority to create a priesthood
They did not have the authority to usurp Christ
>and that's what they did.
No, they didn't.
>Then Luther and Calvin without any authority destroy this structure for anarchy among Christians.
>But hey at least this let German princes do the Christian act of sacking monasteries.
I see you're going for the feels-based argumentation.

Perhaps you could justify the priesthood from scripture, rather than pulling it out of your ass?
>>1893790
Because it is God-breathed.

>>1893801
Bearing false witness is a sin, anon.

>>1893460
What's wrong with this image?

>>1893815
>Perhaps you could justify the priesthood from scripture, rather than pulling it out of your ass?
I guess you ignored the whole Old Testament exactly because it contradicts every protestant believe ever created?
>Because it is God-breathed.
Nice dodge. But you know exactly what I asked. And you weren't able to answer.

>>1893527
Why does this piss people off? Shouldn't the Pope be Christlike?

>>1893845
>I guess you ignored the whole Old Testament
I'm sorry, are you a judaizer? I thought we were talking about the new covenant.
>Nice dodge. But you know exactly what I asked. And you weren't able to answer.
What? If you have something to say, say it.

>>1893848
Cuckoldry isn't Christlike

>>1893854
>politeness is cuckolding

>>1893854
Actually it is.

>turn the other cheek

>>1893857
>hi mr heathen
>let me suck your fett mmmm
>polite

>>1893853
>What? If you have something to say, say it.
Why those specific 27 books? Why not The Shepherd of Hermas? Why not Didache? They both were written around the same time (if not earlier) and clearly address Christian priesthood and churches offering a "pure sacrifice" during their feasts.

>>1893853
>I'm sorry, are you a judaizer? I thought we were talking about the new covenant.
You doubt that the Order is eternal and Jesus solemnly promised not a single dot of it will be changed?

>>1893884
>Why not The Shepherd of Hermas? Why not Didache?
Because they were not God-breathed.
>They both were written around the same time (if not earlier)
Those books are 2nd century, the NT is 1st century.

>>1893895
So yes? You are a judaizer?

>>1893898
>So yes? You are a judaizer?
Jesus says so, so I guess I am, basing directly on His own words.
>Those books are 2nd century, the NT is 1st century.
Actually, first full canons:

1. Codex Sinaiticus: 330-360 AC
2. Codex Vaticanus: 332-367 AC
3. Codex Alexandrinus: 1st half of the 5th century
4. Codex Ephraemi Syri rescriptus: 5th century

While The Shepherd: 140 - 210 AC, and Didache: around 150 AC.

>>1893460
Is that priest wearing a tallis? Huh?

>>1893872
What makes you think he's a heathen?

>>1893854
Jesus was quite literally born of cuckoldry

>>1893897
No biblical text was written by God

>>1893962
Those are manuscripts. The books are 1st century.
>>1893970
He's a muslim
>>1893976
The bible is Θεόπνευστη

>>1893585
Are these brothers the two faithful witnesses in Revelation?

>>1894123
>Those are manuscripts. The books are 1st century.
Based on what proof?

>>1893542
>"Toronto" in the background

>>1894187
Why the hell is wrong with you and your religions, Toronto? Really.

>>1893549
I listened pater.

>>1893460

Illiterate protestants.

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>>1894414
So, the Catholic Church wanted to produce a new mass, that won't be referring the altars, the priesthood and the sacrifice, so the protties could join in. All we got was protties still sticking to their heresy and Catholic Church being destroyed by the modernism from within.

>>1894414
>>1894439
>This wasn't real Catholicism!

>>1895117
Do elaborate, please.