Who was in the wrong here?

>>1892990
talk shit, get your menorah taken away

>>1892990
Romans were powerful colonialists, and the ancient Israelites were weak but haughty tribalistic group of shit-disturbers. Jews should feel lucky the Romans didn't just massacre them or take them all into slavery.

>>1892990
It was the just judgement of God on a wicked sinful people who rejected His glory

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>>1893530
>and the ancient Israelites were weak but haughty tribalistic group of shit-disturbers. Jews should feel lucky the Romans didn't just massacre them or take them all into slavery.
Just like the Germanic people.

>>1892990

>Who was in the wrong here?

you guys seriously need to stop asking such shitty questions

its not helpfull or constructiver in any way and if you realy think about human hiostory in these terms your understanding of reality is seriously lacking

>>1893548
Why the fuck would a Turk shit on the one European country who has allied and supported his country numerous times?

>>1893548
germanics werent conquered you baboon

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>>1893741

>>1892990
The Jews. Rome was just spreading civilization when the Jews decide to chimp out over their irrational sand cult.

>>1895351
Many other peoples rebelled against Roman rule.

>>1893555
Do you think about modern events in those terms?

>>1892990
Whats that box people are carrying beside the minorah?

Is it the arc of the covenant?

>>1896823
looks like a fancy table to me

>>1892990
>don't assimilate
>get shit on
>oy vey it's another shoah

Every time.

>>1892990
IT'S
OUR
FUCKING
LAND

>>1895364
And most of those peoples got their cultures removed as a result.

>>1893548
Except Germania was never colonized by Rome. Sort of the opposite. Germans gradually colonized Rome's outer provinces, infiltrated their military and lower government, then eventually decided they didn't need Romans anymore and by then there wasn't a whole lot the Western Empire could do about it. Between the Germans, Goths, and Vandals wreaking havoc all over the Empire it was like a mighty centipede being torn apart by three separate ant colonies.

>>1895364
And they were put down also. The smart ones stayed down and learned to love the boot on their neck because it was preferable to their neck ending in a bloody stump or being a slave. The Jews apparently didn't learn their lesson and rebelled two more times and got fucked over as hard as a people can be without being given the Carthage treatment.

>>1896873

>Try to assimilate.
>Get shit on.
>Jewish history in a nutshell.

>>1893530

Yeah.

Other than the times they massacred them and enslaved them.

>>1895372

yes

the only difference is that contemporary events affect us during our lifetime, so its about right/wrong choices in the sense of how much problems and damage something causes or will cause and can it be prevented or dealt with, the ''wrong'' in that context is that which does not help to deal with it, that which does not serve a usefull purpose

it may be hard to accept or understand but there is no moral dimension to human functioning, some ethical logic must be applyed in certain situations, but such ethics proceed from the logic of the situation

>>1896933
They were asking for it after the Kitos war shenanigans. I mean holy fuck, I think the only reason Rome didn't raze Jerusalem and salt the earth after the Kitos War is because it technically had nothing to do with Judea and was carried out by diaspora Jews in Egypt and Cyprus. Judea was spared, but there wasn't a Jew left alive in the city of Alexandria or its surroundings or on the whole island of Cyprus when the Romans were done exacting their vengeance for that uprising.

>>1896924
>you can't beat Rome, just outlive them
>Rome eventually falls
>you get fucked by barbarians at full force from all directions

>>1896924

why didnt they get the carthage treatment tho?

>>1896950
Well the worst offenders, the Diaspora Jews, didn't have any cities to raze to the ground and no earth to salt. So they just massacred and enslaved every one of them until none remained. I think they liked Jerusalem too much to destroy it, they didn't hate it to the degree they loathed Carthage. The Judea revolts were more political and military than the Diaspora Uprisings, which were insanely bloody and involved ordinary citizens. So mainly they focused on punishing the rebels via execution and slavery and then just exiling the Jews and later banning their religion cause Hadrian thought Judaism was the ultimate root of their rascally behavior.

>>1896949
Problem was those Barbarians clung to Roman traditions which by that point were decidedly anti-Jewish. And then converting to Christianity didn't help matters, though the clergy were actually very sympathetic to Jews the common people were not.

>>1896929
Jews never assimilate, they instead attempt to mold a nation around their aims and interests, the US-Israeli relationship being the most recent example.

>>1896946

>kitos war

im guessing its somewhat exaggerated, but, how man jews would have to have lived in libia, egipt etc... to be able to start and maintain such a revolt for so long and manage to cause so much damage?

also how come they were so effective? were they all trained fighters or something?

>>1897065
>Jews never assimilate
Except for all the ones that did. You don't hear about them very often, because, you know, they assimilated.