Why is russia so poor? >inb4 communism How could the conditions

>>1885143

Corruption and poor rule of law are detrimental to growth.

Russia was always corrupt as fuck and its courts and administration were always completely arbitrary.

>>1885167

This. I blame Stalin, mostly

They spent their money on cold war instead of the economic development.

>>1885170
>This. I blame Stalin, mostly

Corruption and lack of rule of law weren't developed during the Commie era. They were dragged from the Imperial era. In Imperial Russia it was virtually impossible to have an official to do anything without a kickback. In fact, corruption wasn't even seen as something bad.

>>1885177
>They spent their money on cold war instead of the economic development.

They spent shitton of money and resources on development. Only that development was completely retarded. The Soviet planners were unconcerned with the notion whether some investment made sense or not.

>>1885143
Since OP can't inb4
Communism

>>1885167
Korea and Taiwan are corrupt and have poor rule of law, but they both became wealthy, modern countries from being dirt poor.

I think Russia never recovered from the over 25 million people who died in WW2 + all those who died in the revolution, civil war, gulags, etc.

their population falls every year, their birth rate is very low, and probably many of the births are from not ethnic russians.

they spend too much money on the military, for a country with a population comparable to Germany + France, but much much poorer than them.

>>1885182
This is true, but in the couple of decades before 1914 Imperial Russia was actually developing and industrializing at a rapid rate. WWI and the civil war then fucked things up.

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When Muscovy destroyed Novgorod, the fate of Russia was sealed.

>>1885143
It always was

>>1886082
Way more people died in modern China

>>1885143
social backwardness, they're alcoholic in big numbers and their politicians are just mobsters since the boyars times

>>1886087
WWI didn't really fuck things up. If anything it put even more pressure on the Tsardom to industrialize the state quickly. The February Revolution and the October Revolution/Civil War fucked things up.

>>1885143
-most of it being cold uninhabited wasteland
-more mouths to feed then most first world countries (only county about its size that isn't a third world shithole is Canada)
-every single leader they had was fucking crazy in some way
-being raped by vikings, mongols, AND commies
-two big economic shifts (one going into commie and one going out) making their economy really unstable

Russia was in a laughable condition with the fall of Soviet Union. Gorbachev and Yeltsin were both pathetic in many ways. With Putin, Russia managed to mend its broken prestige, but it also meant taking some economically risky decisions.

While doing those, Russia couldn't and didn't focus on improving their productivity by creating products with high added value. And with its dependence to natural resources, Russia got hit with oil prices going down.

>>1886077
Relatively small populations, massive US interest in keeping them afloat, and generally sorting out their issues (Korea mainly, Taiwan isn't exactly a shining beacon of prosperity) and not having to support a infrastructure that literally stretches across the globe.

>>1885143
>kavkaz bydlos
>tatar bydlos
>vodka bydlos

poor genetics and disgenics go a long way

>>1885143
Russia is really fucking cold, cold saps the energy away from humans thus reducing physical activity which is why the slavs took so long to build a civilization in Russia because its suicidal to use your limited energy in such a gambling manner, certain parts of Russia are so cold that the water in the pipes freeze, with no running water you are really in a long haul, the constant snow also makes land based travel a pain in the ass.

>>1887654
>Finland is really fucking cold and succeeds where bydlos fail

Russians are just a mix of kavkazi/tatar/vodka bydlos

>>1887657
>Finland is really fucking cold and succeeds where bydlos fail
>never had an empire

>>1887654
>certain parts of Russia are so cold that the water in the pipes freeze
the water in your pipes can freeze even as south as Germany during the winter. I wonder how does Germany cope so well despire pipes exploding due to freezing.

>>1887672
So?

>>1887677
So Finland is not a success story.
They were never relevant on international scale and spent vast majority of their history being a buttslave to the nearest bydlos.
Northern states are all massively crippled by their position, one way or another.

>>1885143
Broken culture from attempting communism. A lot of useless land. Warring minority cultures in the south. Poor exploitation of vast natural resources. Take your pick, I don't buy it being racial as I've never met a stupid Slav.

>>1885143
>>>/int/
This isn't even thinly veiled

>>1885143
by converting to Christianity, not to the glorious religion peace

>>1886203
Chinese died in billions from beginning of history.

>>1887657
Russia is continental Asia you asshead its far colder than Finland.
>>1887676
>Comparing German Gulf Stream cold to Russian continental cold, did you know the coldest spot in Canada is inland gee I wonder why.

>>1887654
> cold saps the energy away from humans
Yeah... This is why all glorious civilizations were created in Africa or Brazilia, hottest parts of The World. :^)

>>1886077
Neither are as corrupt as Russia.

>>1887689
> Broken culture from attempting communism.
Russian culture is mostly alright as communism was somewhat technocratic, so education really presented here and there. It ruined economic for sure, but culture was "relatively" spared.

>>1887654
>cold saps the energy away from humans

Literally the oppositie.

>>1885143

Corn... Corn everywhere.

>>1885143

Literally everything wrong with Russia today is a direct result of communism.

They were wealthy and industrializing prior to bolshevism, without having to give up their art, religion, culture, and everything else that communism made anathema.