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Happy Agincourt Day /his/!

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Happy Agincourt Day /his/!
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Is that Britain's Cinco de Mayo?
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>>1874660
What do you mean?
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>>1874665
>celebrating a lone battle in a war they lost
>against France
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>>1874645
>celebrating Agincourt
Who won the war anyway?
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>>1874685
The Plantagenets almost destroyed France while the French administration was in disarray over a succession crisis, the Black Plague was taking most of the population, and Burgundy was raging civil war. It was a shitty time for the French.

Also, you can't think of the HYW as a single war, because it just wasn't. It was a series of wars and battles that changed the nature of France and England from conflicts of men to conflicts of states.
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>>1874685
*nglos on suicide watch
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>>1874645
The background is quite mesmerizing
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>>1874737
Considering perspective had only recently been a thing.
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>>1874685

>Estimated french casualties: 7,000–10,000 (mostly killed)
>Estimated british casualties: At least 112 dead, unknown wounded

Has there ever been another battle in the history of humanity where one side was so severely blown the fuck out?
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>>1874767
Yes
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>>1874767
At least another dozen or so.

But didn't the English execute a significant portion of the French who had frogged out?
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>>1874767
The battle of Castillon, French blowing out the English, 100 dead to 4000
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>>1874767
Battle of Singapore
85,000 British casualties for 5,000 Japanese casualties
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>>1874767

British you say?
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>>1874774
considering that the infantry that fought against them were probably farmers given a wooden hammer and shield or a huge shield spear fighting professional fighters, i'm surprised even 8 guys died...
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Do we even know what really happened at Agincourt? There are so many myths about it thanks to Victorian historiographers, but I can't believe them at all.
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>>1874832
They died falling from their horse during the charge because they were drunk
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>>1874892

Because you can go and read the first hand accounts from people who were there?
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>>1874892
The French launched a massive charge one foot on one km through a muddy field while wearing heavy armor
The English shot at hem during the entire time and killed a few, but most survived, pushed the English lines a little but were too exhausted to fight so they got killed or captured by the fresh English knights (those captured were executed soon after)
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>>1874774
>M&BW on ~10% difficulty
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>>1874645
Can anyone tell me why is this battle so overhyped. I understand the fuss about Hastings because its probably the turning point in English history, but this one?
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>>1874911
Brits love to overhype their irrelevant victories
Look at Waterloo, Rorke's Drift...etc
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>>1874911
Shakespeare
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>>1874907
Kek
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>>1874923
>Waterloo
>Irrelevant
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>>1874697
Which war? The Lancastrian war was the one that Agincourt took place in, and the English won that one.
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>>1875078
>the English

The Plantagenets*
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>>1875084
Who used mostly English and Welsh troops.
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>>1875090
It was the French kings of England's cleverness that won, not the """skill"""" of their cannon fodder
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>>1874645
>archers firing at each other in close proximity in full plate
>mounted knights watching in silence

Is this how medieval battles happened?
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>>1875104

>the English aristocracy were still French and considered themselves to be French in 1415

Fucking end yourself
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>>1875169
They did though
That's the very reason why the HYW happened to start with
Dudes felt so French they included the French lily on England's flag alonside the French lions
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Agincourt is overrated. Henry V needed a good victory since his campaign at the time was a failure. I admit, his conquest of Normandy was impressive (yet brutal) but like many medieval monarchs, all he cared about was short-term gains.

Crecy and Poitiers were better victories. Verneuil deserves more press than Agincourt.
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>>1875047
prussians won waterloo.
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>>1876140
It was a combined Anglo-Dutch-German victory. I do hate how British historians think Wellington single-handedly defeated Napoleon when the only reason he fought at Waterloo was because Wellington urged Blucher to support him. The Prussians arrived througout the course of the battle in increasing numbers and helped tipped the odds. Wellington's army was full of Dutch and Germans btw.
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>>1875204

>the HYW started in 1415

It's not like the HYW put the final few nails in the Anglo-French identity coffin and drove them into considering themselves as English, or anything.
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>>1875869

Verneuil didn't have a play written about it. Nor is it as pronouncable or spellable.
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>>1875078
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>1876140
I didn't say that the British won Waterloo, but he said it was irrelevant, which was ridiculous.
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>>1874767
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>tfw you are not at agincourt on st crispin's day
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>>1876351
The Duke of Bedford was the GOAT commander, really deserves more credit
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>>1874803
>85,000 British casualties

Since when do prisoners count as casualties.
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>>1874645
>Tfw when hundreds of years ago on this day your French ancestors were dying on the fields of Agincourt

>Tfw when hundreds of years ago on this day your English ancestors were killing on the fields of Agincourt

Feels neutral man
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>>1877060

Not him, but since always. Casualties are the sum total of killed+wounded+captured+missing.
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>>1877060
Since agincourt
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