Heracles (or Hercules because for some reason his roman name

>>1870951

Achilles outdoes all of them because he is literally the only heroic figure in the entire Greek literary corpus to eventually swallow his pride.

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>>1870951
Perseus is objectively the best Greek hero

The 7 from thebes >all

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>this bastard got to wreck Artemis' godly virgin pussy
I hate him so much

>>1870987
Get over it, Apollo.

>>1870951

Not mentioning

>Solon
>Themistocles,
>Cimon
>Pericles
>Alcibiades
>Lysander
>Sokrates
>Plato

True heroes of the greek world

>>1871009
Alcibiades was so based, fucking corrupt athenians shooting themselves in the foot out of jealousy.

>>1870958
>you will never kill a human-lion-walrus-dragon while a bunch of people are losing their shit as two musicans are playing your battle theme

why live?

>>1871027
All while peeping your future wives tittied too. What a life.

Man this reminds me of that thread when people just greentexted ancient stories
good reads

>>1870951
odysseus was an absolute retard.
it took him like 10 years to get home and all of his crew got killed in the process

>>1871051
He sort of did piss off the second most powerful God and he spent like 4-5 of those years with a goddess in near paradise.

>>1871051
He was fucking cursed by Poseidon there isn't much you can do about asshurt god.

>>1871042
What was it called? Does /his/ have an archive?

>>1871025
Alcibiades was arguably the biggest asshole of the late Bronze Age.

>>1871051
His crew got themselves killed, in large part.

>>1871076
no idea

>>1871071

You can not boast to the heavens about blinding his son, for starters.

>>1871110
His son wanted to eat him and was a stupid fucking monster. Odysseus did nothing wrong.

>>1871087
>based Athenian leader responsible for much of Athens' early success
>comes up with a plan to get Syracuse to help them and the other Athenian politicians get jealous
>gets framed for retarded prank that would result in his death if he stayed in Athens
>forced to defect to Sparta
>his mission fails miserably without him, Syracuse joins Sparta instead
>eventually leaves Sparta because he loves Athens
>just before the most important battle he tells Athens to find another place to fight because he recognizes the Spartans have a clear terrain advantage
>Athenians respond with "fuck u tr8r, your probably trying to trick us."
>get absolutely thrashed by Sparta just like Alcibiades said
Are you just mad that he got more pussy than you?

>>1871124

He boasted. He even came up with a trick for covering his tracks. But as he's sailing away, he HAS to let Polyphemus know who bested him, his pride doesn't give him any other choice. He could have just gotten to his ship and sailed away, but then a bunch of cyclopses on an island he's never going back to wouldn't know that it was Odysseus son of Laertes King of Ithaca who put out Polyphemus's eye, and not some Nobody.

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>>1870958
>not Theseus

>you will never fuck every night for fifty nights straight a different virgin daughter of the cool ass king you're questing for because he wants your superior son of Zeus genes
>you will never wear a lions skin on your head
>you will never
>actually, I don't even need to continue listing shit he's done because it's impossible to top the first one

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>>1871572
>see Percy Jackson movie
>"it's rare that Zeus, Poseidon, or Hades have children with mortals."
>mfw

Gilgamesh

>>1870951
Heracles > Diomedes > Theseus > Achilles > Odysseus > Everybody else

>>1871599
Dubs confirm

>>1871599
Achilles was a fucking crybaby. Like Pajama Boy with super powers. I never liked him.

>>1871613
>dislikes Alcibiades
>dislikes Achilles
You should really remove that tripcide, it's just making your shit taste pile up.

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>>1871599
>Ranking Diomedes that high

Literal autist who couldn't handle responsibility.

>>1871633
Literally our boy

>>1871633
Diomedes was pretty based, he killed like half of the Trojan heroes in like the third chapter of the book. He would've killed Aeneas if Aphrodite hadn't saved him.

>>1870958
>those musical instruments
Gotta love the Renaissance.

>>1871009
>Sokrates
>not destroying Greece and thinking forever
Pick one (1)

I E S O N
E
S
O
N

>>1870951
Beowulf > all others

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Hektor > Everyone else

>>1872758
>Ran like a bitch until the gods finally got tired of his shit

Greatest fucking track and field runner maybe but that's about it.

Romulus>

>>1872758
>ran like a bitch
after facing an homicidal psycopath

>>1871129
>commands an expedition to Sicily
>no one comes back home

>>1870951
It has nothing to do with their being a Disney movie named Hercules, it's just 'some reason'

>>1873185
Alcibiades didn't command the expedition though. They sent him away saying they weren't going to charge him with the fabricated charges yet and then when he took off they decided they were actually going to bring him back and charge him so immediately when he landed in Sicily he was told to go back to Athens alone where he would be given his trumped up charges. That's when he defected. The guy that replaced him wasn't a good negotiator or general and his absence was most likely the entire reason the expedition failed.

>>1873197
Everyone in the West used the Latin names for all the Greek heroes and gods until Edith Hamilton's "Mythology" became popular--she opted to keep it "Hercules", so that's why it's still used rather than Heracles.

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>>1873059
>hey bro, I've been helping the other side the entire war and the guy chasing you is my friend but I swear I'll help you kill him
Kek what a dumbass

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>>1870951
I personally prefer Odysseus but thats a pretty good power ranking. Achilles a shit

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>>1871649
He was Athena's proxy tbqh. Only Ajax is based

>>1875669
Diomedes kicked Ajax's ass without Athena in order to get Achilles' gear.

>>1875669
>Largely forgotten in the popular conscience
>Except for a cleaning product

There's a timeline in the multiverse where people say "just sprinkle some Diomedes on that grout before you start scrubbing"

>>1875655
Why are they wearing Urnfield culture like armor?

>>1875747
Because you're gay.

>>1870998
Fuck you, Pan.

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>>1875747
That's what greek armour looked during the time period we figure is when the trojan war happened

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>>1870958
You're god damn right.

>>1870987
>Orion got to fuck Artemis
I only ever heard either the version where he was proposed but refused or the version where he tried to rape her and she killed him. Who ever wrote about him actually fucking her?

>>1870951
Regardless of who was best, I think we can all agree that Agamemnon was the worst right? Actually the whole family was pretty fucking shit even by greek standards.

>>1870951

particurarly interesting is the feat when he murders his whole family

>>1875771

homer describes all sorts of armor from bronze and brass plate to lamelar and even chainmail to bone armor and fucktons of leather

>>1875841
Homer also lived a long ass time after Troy supposedly happened

>>1875771
Proofs?

I don't recall that kind of armor existing in Mycenean Greece

>>1875841
Homer also describes iron weapons that weren't used by Mycenans

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Hercs is top right

>>1875978
Doesn't this prove Greek paganism comes from Buddhism?

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>>1875978
i mean right..

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>>1875981
i came to the same conclusion

>>1875981
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Greek_Kingdom

you fool

>>1875841
homer also doesnt exists

>>1875849
A quick google and instantly found the armour in pic
http://www.ancient.eu/image/433/

>>1870951

All paganism comes from Babylon.

Heracles is just Tammuz, the offspring of a "god" and a woman.

>>1876521
A quick 30 seconds of actual reading up the chain of posts you responded to and you would know I wasn't referring to that armor bu to the former ones here

>>1875655

Obviously I'm talking about the Danubian armors wored by Diomedes, Menelaus, Odysseus and Agamennon

>>1875981
It comes from the Greeks in India adopting Buddhism and merging Greek shit into it.

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>>1876643
negative, comes from Seleucid influences north of India (Greco-Bactrian Kingdom). leftover Greek culture got mixed into Buddhist art down the road, not Greeks adopting Buddhism

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>>1876565
>wored by
>wored by
>wored by

>>1876869
Not everyone here is a native English speaker, we can make a few mistakes once in a while, you dumb fuck.

>>1877074
Welcome to 4chan. People will give you shit for anything they can, just because they can.

>>1877074
English is my second language and I still know it isn't a word.

>>1871613
That's a seriously plebian view of Achilles there.

Achilles was pissed at Agamemnon for two major reasons. The first was that Agamemnon, despite outranking him, was in every way his inferior and utterly depended on Achilles in this war, yet still treated him like shit, which is a pretty legitimate reason to be pissed. The second is that Achilles choose glory at the cost of his own life, and by taking Achilles' prize, he was stripping him of his glory, which is tantamount to stripping him of the sole meaning to his existence. Hell, even I as a nihilistic edgelord can understand why that might make someone a bit pissy.

>>1877081
I knew it was but it's not like I give a shit and double check my posts in a site like this one

>>1876548
Jesus is just Tammuz, the offspring of a "god" and woman

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Who was the shittiest Greek hero? And why was it Bellerophon.

I thought it was interesting how in the Iliad all the other Greek heroes look down on Odysseus and are extremely uncomfortable fighting on the same side as him, because while they're heroically fighting man to man he's sneaking around the battlefield covertly backstabbing people. And yet he's the hero in part 2.

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>>1877093
Wait, wait. Refresh my memory. When did Agamemnon take *anything* from Achilles?

>>1878008
...at the beginning of the Iliad

>>1877895
>not Jason

He literally almost gets made a secondary character in his own story by Heracles but at the last minute Heracles fag lover drowns so he leaves the party.

>>1878008
He takes his Trojan sex slave away.

>>1870987
What? When did that happened? Son of a bitch

>>1875813
Yeah I never heard orion fuck her, I mean he tried, and in other version I think artemiss kills him for being arrogant but no rape

>>1871071
Walk by land, mayhaps?

>>1871580
Well, Hades had no mortal children, so I guess adding him made that a bit more rare.

Then again, Zeus created enough spawn to render that irrelevant.

>>1875978
>Hercs is top right
No
>>1875988
>i came to the same conclusion
>>1875981
>Doesn't this prove Greek paganism comes from Buddhism?
No

>>1875813
>>1879615
He was arrogant about being able to slay any and all beasts, Artemis complained to Papa Zeus, he sent out Scorpio, who poisoned Orion to death, both got changed into bunch of stars set in a shape.

>>1875830
Menelaus was OK, maybe besides allowing Agamemnon order him around.

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>ooga booga booga me samson this my hair u ded

Best

>>1879713
He killed a lot of Greeks

>>1878008
Right at the beginning. He takes a captive of Achilles because Agamemnon was forced to give up his own (what with her being the daughter of a priest of Apollo).

>>1871599
Odysseus is objectively the best.

>>1879688
Kek

Like 90% of Greek myths start with Zeus sticks his dick in a chick, pumps out a baby, and Hera loses her shit causing bad things to happen.

>>1877785
Tammuz is the counterfeit, crafted from the proto-evangelion heard by satan in the Garden of Eden.

If you cannot distinguish between the real and the counterfeit, I'm afraid you are forever lost.