>multiculturalism doesn't wor-

>>1867854
White multiculturalism works like back in early America nonwhite doesnt.

>>1867854
how would /his/ save austria-hungary?

note: date is a month prior to archduke franz ferdinand joyride

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>>1867854
>multiculturalism doesnt cause any proble-

>>1867864
I'd warn them about trains

>>1867864
Assassinate Franz before he can go to Serbia.

Multiculturalism != Multiracialism

Besides the only thing multiculturalism means in the modern day is Mohamed and his 12 children abusing the benefits of your welfare state while taking a shit on your secular institutions and planning terrorist attacks because reasons.

>>1867864
drive down the right rode, seriously if Ferdinand would have been emperor, the world would have been a much better place.

>>1867863
Slavs are not white

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>>1867873

It only works when everyone agrees to melt in the pot.

>>1867890
>white skin

>>1867854

>implying the austro-hungarian empire was '''multicultural'''
>implying habsburg 'k&k' and magyar cultures verent dominant and forcibly imposed upon all
>implying languages and customs werent systematicaly repressed and there was no ideological and cultural hegemony
>implying having a bunch of ethnicities forced to live in a empire somehow makes it all ''multi-kulty''
>implying different cultures dont just get bunched together because history, and '''multiculturalism''' is a actual operative thing and not just post ww2 meme
>implying it actualy worked

if it worked it wouldnt have impoded the way it did

and multiculturalism is something completely different from having more than one culture coexsisting in the same territorial-political entity, its a ideological construct that has no corelation with reality especialy in those areas where different people have to live together, in those isntances either a hegemonic culture is imposed, or ecvery population does their thing and basicaly segregates as much as possible

same thing with yugoslavia, it wasnt multicultural, it was mixed up and a dominant marxist supranational culture was imposed, assimilation and integration were the order of the day

if you want a example of truly multi-kulty empires look at british or ottoman, youll see that their multiculturalism was realy a important facet of their imperialism as such, the whole point was that all populations, as they are found, stay that way, are even prevented from becoming othervise, but submit and accept the imperial rule and the superiority of imperial culture as such

for a opposite example look at the french empire, where language and culture was systemicaly leveled out and made uniform, even trough violence and opression, especialy in france

these were Europeans not Middle Eastern/ African cockroaches

>>1867854
You sure convinced me with that empire that's a dozen separate countries now.

The Monarchy wasn't multicultural.

>>1867894
I do not understand what is this comic trying to say desu

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>>1867854
>nationalists point out how multi-culturalism doesn't work
>they point to the empire that was ruined by nationalism

>>1867864

avoid WWI. that's literally it.

>implying that slav and romanian nationalists were strong and organized enough to bring down AH on their own.

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>>1867957
>>1867927
>>1867883
>>1867863

GO BACK TO POL.

>>1868937
>image.jpeg

>>1867854

>multiculturalism doesn't work, except when many demographics are under the yoke of the Their name givers (Austrians and Hungarians in this case)

>>1868937
>why are there right-wing views on a humanities board?

>>1868936
Never underestimate the Eternal Serb's ability to fuck things up for everyone.

Somehow, at some point, they would find a way.

>>1867883
There were probably more Muslims as a percentage in Austria-Hungary than there are in America.

>>1868984
And see what happened to them?

>>1868937
> Different opinions don't belong on my board

>>1867854
Your pic is an example of why it doesn't work.

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>>1867864
Simple. Do this.

>vast majority of all the ethnic minorities in the empire get home rule
>Hungarians aren't oppressing everyone to keep their cushy position anymore
>German ethnic enclaves are governed separately so they don't dominate local politics and aren't seen as a source of contention
>everyone has an equal spot in the government under the Emperor

The only opponents to it were the Serbs, who didn't want to see all the ethnic strife resolved, and the Austrian Aristocracy, who were dead-set in their traditionalist ways. That's the reason both Austria and Serbia were happy to see Franz Ferdinand shot.

>>1869301
>These bunch of negroes have managed to live together for close to 200-300 years
>It doesnt work!
If anything it proves natonalism ability to disturb the peace/

>>1869315
I believe the serbs had little to no desire whatsoever to get further slaughtered after the Balkan wars. Croats and serbs within the Empire on the other hand were deeply convinced their time for liberation was ripe. Serbia had to be crushed and assimilated so the Yugoslavian dream would be extinguished. Ultimately, the few were trying to dominate the many. It is a matter of time with situations such as this one.

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Everyone posting ITT is a moron.

Firstly AH is not multiculturalism in the modern sense. It's a collection of nation states, a union if you will, where the major nations had their own autonomous states and even the minor ones lived on their own lands even if they had no say in governance.

Multiculturalism in the modern sense happened in the areas where serbs and romanians migrated on hungarian and croatian lands and started chimping out demanding greater serbia and greater romania.

Multiculturalism in the modern sense(the entire world pouring into europe and north america) is garbage and doesn't and never will work.

"Multiculturalism" in the sense of several similar nation states banding together to be bigger and stronger has proven to work(UK, Poland-Lithuania, Austria-Hungary, etc.) or larger nations dominating smaller ones(Russia, China, every empire in history, etc.).

>>1867864
Send Hotzendorf to Sarajevo in Ferdinand's place.

>>1868928
That you should vote for Trump!

>>1869403
lol
austrians install serbs to protect their borders against turks, since croats are croats
>croatian land
also SHS

>>1869326
It only proves you can only have a multicultural nation when governing with force and fear. And that always leads to a caste system, with the rulers unwilling to share the power because they don't trust/are afraid to be toppled by the other ethnicities.

It cannot work, period. The only exception being when you got a common enemy.

>>1869403
>Firstly AH is not multiculturalism in the modern sense. It's a collection of nation states, a union if you will, where the major nations had their own autonomous states and even the minor ones lived on their own lands even if they had no say in governance.

Basically this, there was no "melting pot" to speak of in society at all


Even when Austria-hungry went to war in WW1 units were not "mixed". You had croats in croat units, slovaks in slovak units etc etc

The less cultural force binding a group of people to a common set of values and eachother, the more coercive force will likely be required to keep people from being wretched to eachother within the given society.

Multiculturalism works just like anything works. If you have enough muscle and guns any conceivable social order is possible. Anything is a dildo if you are brave enough.

There is only force.

>>1867854

Yes, we know how it ended so well.

>>1868930
>i funny
opinion discarded

>>1868937
>I need a liberal hugbox
I think you belong on reddit

>>1869436
>Multicultural nation.
See, that's where you fuck up. You think it was a nation. You've been memed by Whig history to think everyone ends up in a nation-state.

It wasn't one. It was an empire. It says so. Centered around a dynasty, whose job was to run and protect it's component peoples. And has done so for 200-300 years despite the cries of the later nationalists that they were a nation-state. Where did they think their fucking ancestors lived in? Nation-states? No they were Kingdoms/Princedoms, and now the Hapsburg monarch is their prince via centuries of marriages, heirs, etc. Not to mention many of those places weren't even invaded. Most were acquired via marriage or grateful liberation from the Ottomans.

It didn't even try to do as Russia did and "Russify" the fucking place. It knew what it fucking was.
>It cannot work, period.
Then why did it not disappear earlier? Why did WWI have to happen to make it so? The last decades of the Hapsburg Empire was basically it modernizing. Where was the shitty decline?

>>1869561
>tells you to go back
>tell him the same thing

Why post the Austro-Hungarian empire? Why not Rome? Why not Mongolia? Why not the British Empire?

Of course multiculturalism works in an autocracy where a single culture is obviously dominant and oppresses all others.