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>Germany, 1941-1945 >305,000–600,000 civilians killed

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>Germany, 1941-1945
>305,000–600,000 civilians killed in allied bombings
>Not a war crime

>Japan, 1941-1945
>330,000-500,000 civilians killed in allied bombings
>Not a war crime

>Vietnam, 1972
>1,624 civilians killed in Operation Linebacker II
>Both the Soviet Union and China denounced the bombing, while some Western countries also criticized the US operation. In a famous speech, Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden, compared the bombings to a number of historical "crimes" including the bombing of Guernica, the massacres of Oradour-sur-Glane, Babi Yar, Katyn, Lidice and Sharpeville, and the extermination of Jews and other groups at Treblinka, and said that "now another name can be added to this list: Hanoi, Christmas 1972". His protests resulted in the U.S. withdrawing their ambassador from Sweden and telling Sweden not to send a new ambassador to Washington.


Why are Vietnamese lives worth more than German and Japanese lives?
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cause of that pootang, son
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>Nazi Germany
>Imperial Japan
>North Vietnam

Let's take into account the context of these bombings. At the time, no one cared about the lives of Germans or Japanese.
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>>1864035
Because it was popular to hate the US at the time.
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>sweden

Well, what did you expect? Also what the fuck were Swedes up to in the 1970s aside from ruining pop music forever?
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>>1864093

standing up against evil is always popular
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>>1864035
Because everyone was mass-murdering in WWII. By 1970 the world agreed mass bombing was wrong, and that's why the US mostly does drone assassinations now. Less collateral damage.
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Because Karl Donitz and Chester Nimitz humiliated Nuremberg trial by showing that both sides conducted unrestricted submarine warfare - a big no-no - and that the Nimitz stated he did it against the Japanese at a far more brutal rate.

When Donitz was found not guilty because of hypocrisy, the war crimes of the Luftwaffe involving aerial bombardment was dropped in subservient trials in order to save the hassle of the German defense lawyers spending days dragging Harris and other through the mud.

Once it was all said and done, the general agreement was that bombing indiscriminately was wrong and shouldn't be practiced again, with what happened in the forties sort of a mass murdering mulligan. So 30 years later, when it happened in Vietnam, the outrage was justified.
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>>1864170
>US mostly does drone assassinations now. Less collateral damage.
>Less

Besides Mass Bombing wasn't concerned with collateral damage. People like Harris and LeMay were aware of the civilian casualties. They just didn't care or reasoned that civilians were combatants.
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>>1864035
>Olof Palme, the Prime Minister of Sweden
What a fucking idiot.
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>>1864035
"Auchen Spfriezehn Hubert, der Amikaner ist bombing vir!"

"Wir dindu nuffin Magdeline wir vuz gut junger kenne killing Soviet POWs by der million, wie do they dodiz to wir!!!!"


Had it coming
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OP after careful study it would appear to me that your argument is a shit
>>1864337
>criticizes terror bombing of civilians
>what an idiot
>dog bless America

Here is the speech. Quite a beautiful little piece of rhetoric
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGm4es5rJnQ
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Here is an interview with Palme by David Frost in 1969. At the time Palme was just a Swedish education minister
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>>1864408
Palme posting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLfBDHsfMPI
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>>1864035
The victor writes the histories
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>>1864322
It absolutely is less. Obama's drone program has killed thousands of civilians, yes, but the ratio of civilian to combatant death is much much much much better than it was in the old days, when they would level entire cities merely to diminish the enemy's industrial capacity.
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>>1864392
>criticizes terror bombing of civilians
Started by the Germans. Comparing these bombings with deliberate massacres of civilians is ridiculous.
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>>1864148

Engaging in international diplomacy. You know, something the under age edgelords on this forum know nothing about.
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>>1864035
>Nazi kill 6 million jews
OMG FUCKING HOLOCST BASTARDS
>Nazi kill 20 millions russians
...
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>>1864697
Started in WWI even. The Zeppelin Raids in Britain
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