Nicholas II

>all these people defending only because he's hawt

He should've reformed the country some more, and that's undeniable.

Inb4 /leaftiepol/ neckbeard psychopaths show their true colors saying he, his wife and their underage children had to ritually sacrificed for their kosher masters.

Don't complain when you get thrown out of helicopters, commie scum.

>>1860990
why do you only feel bad for nicky? it's his kids getting stabbed and beat to death that bothers me

>>1861001
I doubt he had the power or knowledge to do anything, actually not a single monarch back then had, governments were just in a messy place back then

>>1861005
autism

>>1861001
Not him but, it's not he's hot, is that he had great banter, and I can identify with him on many levels

[spoiler] gay but not for him

>>1861013
He was the Tsar, he had the power to make change, but risked alienating the aristocracy every step of the way

>>1860990
What's with monarchs proudly wearing medals as if they earned them?

Tsar Nicolas II is a guy that did practically EVERYTHING wrong. His reign is basically just one long string of fuck ups caused by his own prejudice & ineptitude.

>>1861024
Because he's standing as a king should, with pompf and allure, unlike wily2nd

The old ruling class of Europe had to go. Prove me wrong.

>>1861029
What about putting Stolypin in charge

>>1861034
True but they were just victims too, they were born into their positions. They could have just been exiled.

>>1861034
Only the threat of mutually assured destruction brought peace to Europe

>>1860990
He was directly responsible for the Russo-Japanese War, and all the bad that came about because of it.

>>1861041
All he wanted was a warm water port, and the Japanese attack the port
PROVE ME WRONG

>>1861023
Which would have been a huge taboo, you can't blame the man

>millions of russians die brutal deaths in wwi because of his adventurism
>muh poor czar and his chillens their deaths were somehow special
?????

>>1860990
He kind of did deserve it but his children didn't

His incompetence, stubbornness and lack of vision were more than enough to earn him and his family a bullet to the head. The people didn't just woke up one morning feeling rebellious, it was a long process of accumulated discontentment.

>>1860990
He didnt deserve to die but I fail to see why he deserved to be sainted. I mean he was indirectly, possibly directly responsible for alot of death and suffering

>>1861060
>People that would have died anyway due to poverty vs the gentleman
GEE golywiz mister I don't understand why

He absolutely deserved to be murdered the fuck out.

t. Russian

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Makes me sad every time.

>>1861001

The country WAS reforming.

Then "Greater Serbia" retards got too big for their britches, then Austria-Hungary got mad, then...

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>>1861088

>Nicholas, facing his family, turned and said "What? What?"[36] Yurovsky quickly repeated the order and the weapons were raised. The Empress and Grand Duchess Olga, according to a guard's reminiscence, had tried to cross themselves, but failed amid the shooting. Yurovsky reportedly raised his gun at Nicholas's torso and fired; Nicholas fell dead. Yurovsky then shot Alexei. The other executioners then began shooting chaotically until all the intended victims had fallen. Several more shots were fired and the doors opened to scatter the smoke.[36] There were some survivors, so Peter Ermakov stabbed them with bayonets because the shots could be heard outside.[36] The last to die were Tatiana, Anastasia, and Maria, who were carrying a few pounds (over 1.3 kilograms) of diamonds sewn into their clothing, which had given them a degree of protection from the firing.[37] However, they were speared with bayonets as well. Olga sustained a gunshot wound to the head. Maria and Anastasia were said to have crouched up against a wall covering their heads in terror until they were shot down. Yurovsky himself killed Tatiana and Alexei. Tatiana died from a single bullet through the back of her head.[38] Alexei received two bullets to the head, right behind the ear after the executioners realized he had not been killed by the first shot.[39] Anna Demidova, Alexandra's maid, survived the initial onslaught but was quickly stabbed to death against the back wall while trying to defend herself with a small pillow which she had carried that was filled with precious gems and jewels.

Fuck the Bolsheviks.

>>1861005
>/leaftiepol/

What's that, Canadians?

>>1861101

>Filled with diamonds and jewels

Kek, didn't do much good did they?

>>1861101
>Fuck the Bolsheviks.
Why?

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>>1861101

Another telling.

>The initial round of gunfire killed only the Tsar, the Empress and two male servants, and wounded Grand Duchess Maria, Dr Botkin and the Empress' maidservant, Demidova. At that point the gunmen had to leave the room because of smoke and toxic fumes from their guns and plaster dust their bullets had released from the walls. After allowing the haze to clear for several minutes, the gunmen returned. Dr Botkin was killed, and a gunman named Ermakov repeatedly tried to shoot Tsarevich Alexei, but failed because jewels sewn into the boy's clothes shielded him. Ermakov tried to stab Alexei with a bayonet but failed again, and finally Yurovsky fired two shots into the boy's head. Yurovsky and Ermakov approached Olga and Tatiana, who were crouched against the room's rear wall, clinging to each other and screaming for their mother. Ermakov stabbed both young women with his 8-inch bayonet, but had difficulty penetrating their torsos because of the jewels that had been sewn into their chemises. The sisters tried to stand, but Tatiana was killed instantly when Yurovsky shot her in the back of her head. A moment later, Olga too died when Ermakov shot her in the head.

tfw Grand Duchess Tatiana Romanov will never look at you this way over dinner.

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>>1861125

Say what you will about Nicholas II, murdering and bayonetting his entire family the way they did was shitty.

>>1861101
Not even a commushit but I view this as just another execution and am not particularly moved by it. There's really worse ways to go.

Do people just consider monarchs to be that special, even in present year?

>kill tens of thousands of people for their political beliefs
>complain when you get shot

Nah, he deserved it. He was factually guilty of capital crimes.

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>>1860990
He did nothing wrong

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>>1861135

Tatiana is my history waifu, the death of the Romanovs just has a face that lots of executions don't, and the descriptions are visceral.

I feel sympathy for most undeserving political executions. If they had a score to settle they should have just shot Nicholas.

>>1860990

Communism is more fascistic than monarchism. In fact both communism and fascism are liberal and anti monarchist.

>>1861133
How did you expect to kill them?

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>>1861001
Being hot is enough for me, desu.

>>1861056

If we cant blame him for that, then we also cant blame the people for rising up against him.

He deserved what he got if for no other reason than that he was incompetent and sent thousands to their pointless deaths.

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>"Elizabeth spent all the days before the burial in ceaseless prayer. On her husband's tombstone she wrote: 'Father, release them, they know not what they do.' She understood the words of the Gospels heart and soul, and on the eve of the funeral she demanded to be taken to the prison where Kalyayev was being held. Brought into his cell, she asked, 'Why did you kill my husband?' 'I killed Sergei Alexandrovich because he was a weapon of tyranny. I was taking revenge for the people.' 'Do not listen to your pride. Repent... and I will beg the Sovereign to give you your life. I will ask him for you. I myself have already forgiven you.' On the eve of revolution, she had already found a way out; forgiveness! Forgive through the impossible pain and blood -- and thereby stop it then, at the beginning, this bloody wheel. By her example, poor Ella appealed to society, calling upon the people to live in Christian faith. 'No!" replied Kalyayev. 'I do not repent. I must die for my deed and I will... My death will be more useful to my cause than Sergei Alexandrovich's death.' Kalyayev was sentenced to death. 'I am pleased with your sentence,' he told the judges. 'I hope that you will carry it out just as openly and publicly as I carried out the sentence of the Socialist Revolutionary Party. Learn to look the advancing revolution right in the face.'"

>After Sergei’s death, Elisabeth wore mourning clothes and became a vegetarian. In 1909, she sold off her magnificent collection of jewels and sold her other luxurious possessions; even her wedding ring was not spared. With the proceeds she opened the Convent of Saints Martha and Mary and became its abbess.

>She soon opened a hospital, a chapel, a pharmacy and an orphanage on its grounds. Elisabeth and her nuns worked tirelessly among the poor and the sick of Moscow. She often visited Moscow’s worst slums and did all she could to help alleviate the suffering of the poor.

cont

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>>1861355
>In 1918, Lenin ordered the Cheka to arrest Elisabeth. They then exiled her first to Perm, then to Yekaterinburg, where she spent a few days and was joined by others: the Grand Duke Sergei Mikhailovich Romanov; Princes Ioann Konstantinovich, Konstantin Konstantinovich, Igor Konstantinovich and Vladimir Pavlovich Paley; Grand Duke Sergei's secretary, Fyodor Remez; and Varvara Yakovleva, a sister from the Grand Duchess's convent. They were all taken to Alapayevsk on 20 May 1918, where they were housed in the Napolnaya School on the outskirts of the town.

>At noon on 17 July, Cheka officer Pyotr Startsev and a few Bolshevik workers came to the school. They took from the prisoners whatever money they had left and announced that they would be transferred that night to the Upper Siniachikhensky factory compound. The Red Army guards were told to leave and Cheka men replaced them. That night the prisoners were awakened and driven in carts on a road leading to the village of Siniachikha, some 18 kilometres (11 miles) from Alapayevsk where there was an abandoned iron mine with a pit 20 metres (66 feet) deep. Here they halted. The Cheka beat all the prisoners before throwing their victims into this pit, Elisabeth being the first. Hand grenades were then hurled down the shaft, but only one victim, Fyodor Remez, died as a result of the grenades.

>According to the personal account of Vasily Ryabov, one of the killers, Elisabeth and the others survived the initial fall into the mine, prompting Ryabov to toss in a grenade after them. Following the explosion, he claimed to have heard Elisabeth and the others singing an Orthodox hymn from the bottom of the shaft.[5] Unnerved, Ryabov threw down a second grenade, but the singing continued. Finally a large quantity of brushwood was shoved into the opening and set alight, upon which Ryabov posted a guard over the site and departed.
cont

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>>1861360
On 8 October 1918, White Army soldiers discovered the remains of Elisabeth and her companions, still within the shaft where they had been murdered. Despite having lain there for almost three months, the bodies were in relatively good condition. Most were thought to have died slowly from injuries or starvation, rather than the subsequent fire. Elisabeth had died of wounds sustained in her fall into the mine, but before her death had still found strength to bandage the head of the dying Prince Ioann with her wimple.

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>>1861373

>>1861355
>'I killed Sergei Alexandrovich because he was a weapon of tyranny. I was taking revenge for the people.' 'Do not listen to your pride. Repent... and I will beg the Sovereign to give you your life. I will ask him for you. I myself have already forgiven you.' On the eve of revolution, she had already found a way out; forgiveness! Forgive through the impossible pain and blood -- and thereby stop it then, at the beginning, this bloody wheel. By her example, poor Ella appealed to society, calling upon the people to live in Christian faith. 'No!" replied Kalyayev. 'I do not repent. I must die for my deed and I will... My death will be more useful to my cause than Sergei Alexandrovich's death.' Kalyayev was sentenced to death. 'I am pleased with your sentence,' he told the judges. 'I hope that you will carry it out just as openly and publicly as I carried out the sentence of the Socialist Revolutionary Party. Learn to look the advancing revolution right in the face.'"
Absolutely based.

>>1861355

>'No!" replied Kalyayev. 'I do not repent. I must die for my deed and I will... My death will be more useful to my cause than Sergei Alexandrovich's death.' Kalyayev was sentenced to death. 'I am pleased with your sentence,' he told the judges. 'I hope that you will carry it out just as openly and publicly as I carried out the sentence of the Socialist Revolutionary Party. Learn to look the advancing revolution right in the face.'"

F

>>1861005
Hows elementary school going for you

>>1860990
>Yes the proletarians had to rise up and the upper class factory owning scum had to die
No. Tall poppy fagit.

>>1861024
They were the ones in charge of them. As in, the font d'honour, so it was the uniform.