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what was pre-Christian West Germanic society like?

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we have a decent coverage of Anglo-Saxon society, by which it may have converted to Christianity still had a society like it did when it was pagan.
what did Frankish and other continental West Germanic (like Low Saxons, Alemmanic High Germans and such) society look like? did they have a housecarl (or housecarl-like) body? did they have a Comitatus practice? was the irminsul only known in that area?
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>>1855596
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChBsOxskMpDmBAsgJ91fKcg

This guy, despite some of his more questionable qualities and beliefs he has written excellent books on pre-christian germanic religion and peoples and has a lot to say about their society as well.
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difficult to know because you're entering history detective area to sort fact from fiction
most literature left behind by romans on the subject is heavily biased
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>>1855669
>most literature left behind by romans on the subject is heavily biased

and by that I mean, imagine 2000 years from now trying to interpret what (our) modern day Russia is like by reviewing CNN material.
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>>1855596
Why the fuck do people assume germanics = germans?

What kind of stupidity is that?
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>>1855679

Cause you move around stupids?
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>>1855679
>but, but, but I still live in an Alemannic region speaking a high Alemannic dialect.
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>>1855699
>>1855730
But claiming all germanics = germans, would make entire Europe German.

Scandis? Germans
French? Germans
Western Slavs? Germans
Ukrainians and Russians? Germans
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>>1855679
Where did OP or anyone in this thread assume that?
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>>1855596
We know almost nothing, as they only had oral record keeping and converted to forms of christianity or manicheism before writing stuff down.

Tiwaz/Tyr seemed pretty important, but also nature forces were venerated, fen land seemed to hold some religious importance as human sacrifices and weapons were found in some.

Basically for germanic tribes the more you go south the less is known.
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>>1855736

Maybe you should stop walking around stupids.
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>>1855596

First of all, define what "West Germanic" means to you. It's pretty established that many of the tribes started out as Celts or some other peoples and only got Germanized over centuries of cultural diffusion. For example the Boii who turned into Bavarians (Bajuwaren).

What we consider "Germanic" culture might have only emerged during the migration period. Rapid movement of masses of people helped to form relatively uniform Germanic culture out of many radically different traditions. Something akin to the ancient Greek culture, which formed out of many widely different traditions together with relatively unified language (Koine) after the conquests of Alexander.
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>>1855679
>>1855736
nobody ITT has said such
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>>1855824
those that spoke the West Germanic languages. The North Sea, Weser-Rhine, and Elbe Germanics.
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>>1855771
Cyo/Tiw/Tyr was the chief god in the germanic pantheon to begin with iirc and only was replaced by Wotan/Wodan/Odin at a later date. Was it possible that this trend continued in the continental west germanic countries (east Germanics did this too i think) when other Germanics switched?
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>>1855670
CNN does not admire Russia, The Romans admired the Germans and had a much more mature view of the world.
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>>1855663
>thule
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>>1855596
Literally gay
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>>1857011
literally?
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>>1855663
where do i find his books?
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>>1855596
Read Caesar's book The Gallic Wars. Some of it is obvious pro-Roman propaganda, but a discerning eye can pick out fact from exaggeration. It's a fascinating read.
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>>1857222
Amazon, he has links in a lot of his videos too
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>>1855596
Fuck bitches.

Get money.
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>>1857143
Yeah, homosexuals were widely accepted in most pagan societies.
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>>1858084

Bullshit. If you were powerful, you were free to fuck anyone you wished. However, if you were (willingly or not) the passive partner of a same-sex sexual relation, you were considered the worst kind of shit.

Stop extrapolating modern concept onto societies that had no motion of it.
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>>1858393
Germanics? yeah, at least by what we know of the Norse.

The Celts, not so much.

The Romans describe the Gauls as being sexually liberated to a degree they found disturbing - I remember some perhaps slightly questionable historian claiming it wasn't uncommon to proposition an attractive stranger on the spot irrespective of sex - Even if we take this as hyperbole it points to a much different mode of sexuality than the common modern model.
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>>1858493
And modern people believe that sniffing schoolgirs' panties and fapping to tentacle porn is Japan's favorite pastime despite having immeasurably better ways to check their information.

The problem is, we have absolutely no confirmation of such sensational claims despite having reconstructed lots of Celts' culture. On the other hand, we do know that Celts had an elaborate patron-client system, which again points us to the concept of a Big Man being able to fuck whoever he wanted.
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>>1855663
And one pretty awful rpg
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>>1858042
Following in the footsteps of the greatest empires
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>>1858887
Not /tg/ I know but yeah, the game is clunky as shit. At least it doesn't have the papyrus font anymore, interesting enough setting if you ignore the racist shit, the detail he puts into holidays, folklore, and religion is all pretty interesting.
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>>1858887
>>1859499
All ratings i have seen not focusing on the political aspect seem to be rather possitive of it though.
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>>1855669
Frickin Tacitus would talk about giants north of the river Rhine. I'm quite certain at many times Herodotus and Tacitus were full of shit.
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>>1859659
Romans were manlets.
Northern Europeans were giants to them.
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>>1859325

>Brave Roman legionaries are liberating a Germanic village from terrorists. Germanic insurgents are depicted resisting arrest (punishable by death), resisting sexual advances and wearing provocative clothing (punishable by rape) and violating housing regulations (punishable by arson). In the foreground, a social services worker is depicted liberating a child, who will be given a better future, a trade, and life time job security somewhere in the Roman Empire
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>>1860695
top kek
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>>1860695
>suspected leader still at large
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I`m glad nobody in this thread Poster about a unified Alemannia under one duke from Regensburg till Strassburg or even Metz
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>>1855663
It's Varg isn't it, it's Varg isn't it.

Oh god fucking damn it Varg, still shilling for your gay RPG.
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>>1860695
Aren't those rounded huts a Celtic thing (I know they were in Iberia)?
Germanics used various forms of long houses.
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>>1862234
Yeah, I looked it up, it's a Celtic thing. It's probably Gaul getting BTFO.
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