The USSR was not the anti racist pro gay rights pro feminist environmentalist thing that liberals make it out to be.
>>1853716
Nobody is claiming that.
>>1853817
Rhizzone.net is. I hate those liberals
dumb OP delete your thread, nobody claims this.
>>1853821
stupid phone poster.
>USSR
>Pro gay
>Anti racist
Nobody believes this
>>1853820
Never heard of it.
>>1853716
>liberals liking the ussr
what
>>1853716
Liberals hate (and hated) the USSR except for a brief period during and only immediately after WW2.
>>1853716
The USSR was a heavily bigoted society, but so was the United States at the same time period.
Until around 1970, the USSR was generally more progressive except for the realm of gay rights.
>>1853820
>liberals
>liking the USSR
hmmm
>>1853848
I disagree. The USSR had an overt policy of reducing non slav fertility and boosting Slavic fertility. The us government never openly admitted to something like that.
>>1853834
Americans are silly, they create this false left/right dichotomy for themselves and thus inveitably fall into dissonantic pitfalls.
Sometimes I think the closest /pol/ has gotten to talking to a leftist is reading a Breitbart article about SJWs and posting in a /pol/ bait thread with someone false flagging as a liberal.
>>1853866
But you can learn all you need to about liberalism from unemployed british men on youtube (((:^)))
>>1853820
Rhizzone....liberals?
I think you need to get your terms straight
Also never thought I'd see Rhizzone mentioned here. That's an extremely niche site that only former Laissez's Fair poster cliques use
>>1853884
UHHHH I'M NOT A FILTHY FUCKING LIBERAL, I'M A CLASSICAL LIBERAL. RESPECT MY POLITICAL AFFILIATIONS YOU REGRESSIVE SHITLORD.
>>1853885
The rhizzone is absolutely liberals and national socialists
nobody is claiming that
>>1853864
muh horseshoe
>>1853899
no, not a horseshoe, I'm not trying to limit complex social constructs of ideology in a 1 or 2 dimensional plane.
>>1853927
well thanks for clearing that up
>>1853716
>anti racist
That it was, it's kinda given since communism is all about workers and class above nationality, race and religion as well as soviet support of decolonization. There's even a small portion of blacks who emigrated to the USSR.
>pro gay
Only during a short period of the early state, homosexuality was de-penalized, but was later re classified as a mental illness, not sure if it was punished with jail tho.
>pro feminist
Well that depends what you understand for feminism. They gave equal political rights for women and abolished any sexually discriminatory practices such as "no-education for girls" traditions as well as religious laws.
>environmentalist
There was recycling to some small degree but environment this was largely out of the priorities.
>>1853894
I thought rhizzone was like hoxhaist or something
>>1853860
Are you kidding? We sterilized huge numbers of black and Native American women up until the 50s
>>1853941
Like I said, no. The USSR had an official policy of lowering nonwhites fertility and raising white/Slavic fertility. There's also genociding various ethnic groups and so forth under stalin.
>>1853941
oh shit here comes the tankie to correct the record
>>1853860
but I thought the USSR hated slavs and was controlled by the jews :^)
>>1853947
> The USSR had an official policy of lowering nonwhites fertility and raising white/Slavic fertility.
I could buy that but you gotta give me a source first.
>There's also genociding various ethnic groups and so forth under stalin.
you talking about russification? cause that was more of a "pacifying" by cultural assimilation rather wanting to destroy a race
>>1853968
No I'm talking about the relocation of the Chechens which killed thousands, etc.
Second answer is the pic.
>>1853952
There were some mild anti semitic things but nothing serious by Eastern European standards. The Jews all left after the USSR collapsed and presumably they all lost their gold.
>>1853716
I hate the USSR and anyone who defends it, but I've literally never heard or seen anyone defend it in this way.
10/10, I bumped your stupid thread with a reply after reading several others post basically the same thing I'm posting now. Congratulations you tremendous faggot.
>>1853820
If they support a socialist state, they aren't liberals
>>1854010
Thing is, they don't. They think the ussr was a multiculti hippie state. Are you jools?
>>1853983
Several ethnicities were relocated, none was genodiced, if the soviets wanted to wipe out the chechens they would've simply done it, why even bother moving them if you're not even gonna put them in camps?.
Also what is what that pic talking about , Google books is blocking pages. It seems to be referring to the Muslim republics, which were composed of many different ethnicities, and the book itself (or at least the available pages) mentions nothing about forced diminution of the population. Also I think you're confusing fertility with birth rates.
>>1854027
None was genocided? I guess it depends on what you mean but they were shot at Khaibakh and probably other places.
Your second paragraph doesn't make sense to me.
>>1854027
>they would've simply done it
if it were only that simple
>>1854035
Khaibakh massacre never happened but thousands of chechens died in shitty conditions during transit.
>>1853941
Thank you for purging my record comrade! Two bread line stamps have been deposited into the mail slot of your concrete bloc apartment.
>>1853716
You could scare every bird in the world with that thing.
>>1853716
What kind of a subhuman would think that the Soviet Union was liberal in any way?They were pro-modernization, sure, but only "left" in terms of economic management.
>>1853952
Only at the very beginning.
>>1853860
Lol, look statistic, in Central Asia and Kavkaz fertility boosting
>>1854557
After the fall of the ussr.
>>1853983
>chechens and other kavkaz nations betray USSR in WW2
>Stalin dont shot them all, only send to Sibweria
Fucking soviets repress poor kavkaz nations!!!
>>1854561
Well Japanese internment is considered racist, so that makes the ethnic cleansing of Muslims racist.
>>1854559
Sure, its coward communists want kill all not slavs!!!!!!1111
>>1854567
LOL what, this few nations betray USSR, nations, not muslims, muslims from Central Asia bravely fight for Motherland, and mulim not nation.
>>1854569
That was official soviet policy. Doesn't mean it was effective.
Also, consider that the ussr had closed borders and tons of Chinese flooded in after 91. So not very pro-multiculti.
>>1854579
>give statistic
Its official statistic, its not truth, but i cant give you other statistic or arguments
>>1854607
Well what are you disputing? The ussr closed mosques, tried to abort all the muslims, etc. It wasnt liberal.
>>1853716
It was anti-racist and pro-feminist tho.
Remember that time the Soviet Union deported all the Koreans to Kazahkstan because it couldn't tell the difference between Korean and Japanese?
>>1854619
There is actually less pay gap now than under the ussr.
>>1853830
they weren't racist really, not like the usa was racist.
they definitely weren't pro-gay though
>>1853983
>No I'm talking about the relocation of the Chechens which killed thousands, etc.
this had nothing to do with racism and more about weakening groups seen as disloyal. they did the same things to ukranians, white slavs. how do you explain holodomor?
>>1853860
>The us government never openly admitted to something like that.
It doesn't stopped them to sterilize heavily non-white population up to 30% and 50%.
>>1854670
Well whatever the justifications people give, it's the same as the Japanese internment. Except worse because people actually were abused and died
Holodomor was targeted at ukrainians. Russian areas were much less affected.
>>1854689