The Noble Lie

>>1846185

sometimes the lie aint that noble

>>1846191
What is ignoble about promoting social cohesion through "lies" of the nation and religion?

Take, for example, the Rwandan genocide. Would it have been ignoble for Bill Clinton to lie that Rwanda had weapons of mass destruction, despite the fact he'd be saving millions of lives? Would it be ignoble for George Bush to do the same and in the process stall a regional arms race between Sunnis (Saudis), Shias (Iranians), Secular expansionists (iraq), and Jews (israel)?

I'm just wondering what are the counter-arguments used by intellectuals, not your own political thoughts.

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>>1846202

well what if Bill lied about Rwanda having WMD's to take over the government and secure a new puppet government that would do whatever the US told them to do, including securing deals for Bills Business buddies?

>>1846218
>>>>>/pol/

I've seen Clinton Cash and don't get me wrong, I agree with you. I'm just wondering if there are any intellectual counters to it.

Is it just that the lies are often self-serving?

>>1846202
Good job! You've come up with two noble lies! Now try coming up with one which isn't noble. You can do it if you try!

>>1846218
>Michael Moore is now /pol/

>>1846258
I mean in that situation, is there an intellectual argument against the noble lie if it is noble? I get that it can be abused, my question is whether or not it is moral for an individual to make those kinds of lies and, if not, what is the argument.

The Noble Lie becomes truth when you get everyone to believe and act in accordance to it.

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>>1847001
The Turk makes me laugh though