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When did regions outside of Arabia start adopting an Arab identity?

Was it immediately after the Islamic conquest or did it slowly happen over many centuries?

How was it that certain conquered peoples like the Persians managed to maintain a non-Arab identity?
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>>1827429
What's with the part of the Arabian Peninsula that doesn't speak arabic?
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>>1827444
Uninhabited
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>>1827429
It took a very long time after the conquest, and only really intensified in many areas in the 19th century when local identities were finally near-expunged e.g. Copts, Armenians, oasis dwellers etc. Groups that managed to keep their identity to some extent were usually the inheritors of an earlier and more sophisticated society than the bumfuck Arabs who turned up, e.g. Persia was still a very wealthy and culturally prestigious place, Romano-Berber territories still had Roman ruins, Egypt speaks for itself etc. Places like Tunisia, Iraq and Egypt would likely have kept a much less Arabised identity if not for the foundation of new Arab barracks cities such as Tunis, Basra and Cairo. They had much less ties to the ancient pre-Islamic heritage of the area.
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Slowly but surely

Like how the tribes of south china adopted Han identity
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>>1827429
Pretty quickly after the Islamic conquest. Most of these regions were already speaking a lingua franca useful to communicate with other peoples: Some form of Latin or Greek.

With the Islamic Conquest, there was little use for this, and a new lingua franca was offered to them connecting them to larger trade networks.
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>>1827444
Even the Bedouin avoid the empty quarter

2hot4them
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Contrary to popular belief Islam as a religion actually took a long ass time to set in in most places further than the Levant. In the 100 year boom from Muhammad's time it was mostly the rulers of places that were changed the populace just paid homage to Islamic rulers instead of Byzantine or Persian ones. Most of the actual conversions were done by Sufi missionaries or generational social conformity.

In Spain for example even after 800 years most Spaniards that had families that converted to Islam just converted back to Christianity during the Reconquista.
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>>1827444
>>1827448
>>1827466
I dunno they also speak the Beja, Berber, Chadic, and Nilo-Saharan languages in the places not marked on the African part of the map while on the places marked on the Yemeni and Omani part there's the modern South Arabian languages.
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Are Sudanese and maybe Chadian similar to Yemeni Arabic? I heard they are conservative dialects. Are they more conservative than MSA?
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Juba Arabic
https://youtu.be/y1R8ozyVWHc
Sudanese
https://youtu.be/PWDxqXsV1dE
https://youtu.be/C071qfnBA84
Beja
https://youtu.be/mlqgqyyGhaI
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>>1827429
It was a slow process. The new Caliphate offered a lot of benefits to Muslims in the beginning but the only way into the faith was to literally get adopted into some Arab clan. Eventually they dropped the adoption requirement but they kept some of the benefits which convinced a ton of people to convert because fuck taxes. Then the Calpihate realized taxes are important and they jacked them back up and the conversion slowed immensely.
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