To the religious of /his/: is there really any church out there

>>1813804
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT-affirming_Christian_denominations

>>1813804
So you're seeking a God that affirms your moral positions rather than seeking a God with absolute authority. lol protties

But their tendencies are disgusting and sending them hell-bound.

>>1813804
You'll want to look into the Episcopalian """""Church"""""

>The Episcopal Church ordains women and LGBT people to the priesthood, the diaconate, and the episcopate, despite opposition from a number of other member churches of the global Anglican Communion. In 2003, Gene Robinson was the first openly gay person ordained as a bishop in documented Christian history.

>>1815477
Yes. Yes I am.

>>1813804
To the national socialists of /his/: is there really any NS movement out there where Jews can be happy and not be told their tendencies are disgusting and sending them oven-bound?

>>1817121
Yes, it is called Zionism.

>>1817121
Nazism isn't up to interpretation as much as Christianity is.

Is there really any church out there where pedophiles can be happy and not be told their tendencies are disgusting and sending them hell-bound?

>>1817157
What part of

>If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
>Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

and

>If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

do you think is up to interpretation, faggot?

>>1817169
The Catholic Church

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>>1817169
not a very good comparison imo

>>1817171
>old testament

>>1817178
>Epistle to the Romans is Old Testament

How come people on /his/ are so constistently stupid, isn't this supposed to be an educated board?

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>>1813804
Unitarianism.

>"I never thought there was such a thing as too much tolerance, until I joined the UU."

Seriously, they'll take furries and Satanists (or even Satanic Furries) - they do not give a shit.

>>1813804
Your problem is you are looking at things from the wrong angle and assuming the church condemns you because you're "gay". The church doesn't condemn you because you're" gay" the church condemns you because you're a fornicator, keep in mind that heterosexual fornication is condemned as well so it's not like the straights are getting off easy.

Lust is sinful.
Homosexuality revolves around lust therefore homosexuality is sinful by it's very nature. If you can be a homosexual without having sex for pleasure and without thinking sexual thoughts about men then your homosexuality ceases to be an issue for the church. Once again keep in mind that straight people are supposed to refrain from sex outside marriage and lustful thoughts as well, so it's not like you're being singled out.

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>>1817183
Except that's not where either of those are from.

Yer thinking:
Romans 1:26-27
>For this reason [idolatry] God gave them up to passions of dishonor; for even their females exchanged the natural use for that which is contrary to nature, and likewise also the males, having left the natural use of the female, were inflamed by their lust for one another, males with males, committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was fitting for their error.

>>1817199
> Homosexuality revolves around lust
It isn't. At least not more than heterosexuality.

>>1817199
The Bible doesn't seem to enjoy homosexual tendencies even when people are married...

OP here, I'll stick to atheism.

>>1817194
Jesus, how do those church services go?

>>1817207
He probably should've quoted 1 Corinthians 6:9.

>Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality

Anyway that's the New Testament and it's as clear as day about homosex.

>>1813804
Homossexuals are unnatural and lead to a decadent society.
Look at current events to see why.
There's a reason people think there are 7000 genders.

>>1817229
>unnatural

Not true. Everything man does is natural.

>lead to a decadent society

I'd say I agree but I view homosexuals as a symptom of decadence, not the cause.

>>1817208
It actually does. Maybe less for me personally because my sex drive is pretty shit but most gays are absolutely ravenous.

t. gay man

>>1817238
No, all sexualities are equally lustful coming from a gay man.

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>>1817210
>Jesus, how do those church services go?
It depends on which day of the week you go in.

For instance, at my old church, Sunday morning looked kinda like any old left-wingish Protestant service. Friday evening was for Atheists, which ran more like a Joseph Campbell Masks of God lecture and study group. Mondays were for Buddhists. Wednesdays were for Pagan CUUPS, which, at my old branch, was divided into two age groups, the younger being a bunch of goths, and the older being a bunch of old lesbians and pagan wisemen. Anton LeVey's daughter once showed up there as part of a pagan-political focus group (though, in their defense, she was kinda laughed out).

We also had an award winning Choir that toured the nation - singing anything from traditional Christian songs, to ancient Sumerian scripts, to Bohemian Rhapsody.

The UU is weird. Hard to call it a cult though - as they just don't give a shit what you do and make no demands, save that, among them, you practice that in kind.

>>1817243
You're a fucking liar. The promiscuity among gays is absolutely out of this world compared to straight people and this is supported by both my personal experience and by actual statistics.

>>1817245
>Bohemian Rhapsody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0bI-s6rPGE
(Hipsters of all ages...)

>>1817260
>actual statistics
I'd like to see them. What kind of stats could measure that?

>>1817260
You're not the only one with personal experience by the way.

>>1817267
https://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity

>>1817210
> The Bible doesn't seem to enjoy homosexual tendencies even when people are married...
That's because marriage is between a man and a woman.

>>1817267
Are you trolling or genuinely this obtuse?

>>1817289
A mixture at this point, but how is it obtuse to not be willing to lose an argument because "oh no, they gave me proof that might not exist!"?

>>1817282
People who are SUPER openly gay are probably people who have gay sex a lot. Lots aren't as open about it.

>>1817208
>at least not more than heterosexuality
Which is why I'm trying to reinforce the fact that heterosexuals are every bit the wicked sinners as homosexuals in God's eyes. The difference though is that heterosexual sex (normally) leads to children which gives it a purpose beyond hedonism.

A heterosexual who unrepentantly participates in hookup culture and consumes pornography is every bit as sinful and hellbound as a homosexual who lusts after men, people just forget about that thanks to the sexual revolution normalizing promiscuity.

>>1817307
Many of those studies were conducted in the 1970s when it wasn't socially acceptable to be SUPER openly gay.

And I mean I wonder what's your personal experience with gays if mine and yours differ so much. Straight people, even women that I know, have maybe 5 sexual partners in 10 years, talking about regular people and not shit like prostitutes. With gays you see people dating and fucking multiple people in a single night.

I mean seriously is it actually any wonder that AIDS disproportionally affects gays? Use your brain for a second.

>>1813804
>not be told their tendencies are disgusting and sending them hell-bound

why be obsessed with sexual attraction when it's all about giving your life up to God? Seems more man-centred than Christ-centred.

>>1817328
Yes, in the 1970s many people were closeted. Most open gays were probably very open because sex.

STDs aren't just a gay thing, trust me.

>>1817348
AIDS disproportionally affects gays.

Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with mena made up an estimated 2% of the population but 55% of people living with HIV in the United States in 2013
>Gay and bisexual men accounted for 83% (29,418) of the estimated new HIV diagnoses among all males aged 13 and older and 67% of the total estimated new diagnoses in the United States.

>>1817362
There's a much higher chance you'll transmit STDs during anal sex than vaginal, because asses are super filled with bacteria.

It's not that more gay men are having sex, just that their sex is much more risky.

>>1817362
I think that has more to do with the method of infection by which HIV spreads rather than homosexual promiscuity.

>>1817381
>>1817392
Yes I'm sure it has nothing to do with fucking 10 people a night and getting buttfucked by random strangers in gas station bathrooms.

I'm a faggot and married to a guy and we fuck each other, yet we're both 100% clean because we don't cheat and jump on every cock we see.

The root cause of most gays carrying every STD known to man is that an overwhelming majority of gays are promiscuous degenerates.

>>1817381
>>1817362
Also, I'd wager that condom use among gays is probably lower since there's no risk of pregnancy.

Also the stat there is a bit misleading, since there's a much higher risk of transmission when you're the receiving partner in penetrative sex. Since the vast majority of straight men don't engage in that, the only major ways for straight men to contract aids is through inheriting it or (intentional or unintentional) blood transfusions.

Obviously not all gay men engage in being penetrated, but I would say the majority do, and at least a far higher ratio do than among straight men.

>>1817412
I'm not saying homosexuals aren't at increased risk of STDs,I'm saying the prevalence of HIV among homosexuals is the result of how HIV spreads.

HIV is a bloodborne pathogen, and the penis essentially acts as a syringe that injects HIV. Which means that men are very good at spreading HIV but assuming they aren't injected with HIV themselves are very bad at contracting it, while women on the other hand are good at contracting HIV but bad at spreading it, since there's very low likelihood of a woman's blood entering the bloodstream of a man through normal sex.

Compare that to homosexual men who are equally good at contracting and spreading HIV and you can see why it spreads like wildfire through the homosexual community and why any woman who sleeps with bisexual men is taking her life into her hands.

This is

>>1817507
The solution is simple and I don't mean killing all gays - just force them into marriage and criminalize promiscuity and infidelity. This is why I think gay marriage can be something great for society and not a doomsday inducing scenario like the conservatives think.

>>1817199
>the church condemns you because you're a fornicator, keep in mind that heterosexual fornication is condemned as well so it's not like the straights are getting off easy.
No, most Christian churches also oppose sex between married homosexual couples.

>Once again keep in mind that straight people are supposed to refrain from sex outside marriage and lustful thoughts as well, so it's not like you're being singled out.
Except even sex within marriage, if not done for reproductive purposes, is driven by lust. Yet many Christian churches actually encourage non-reproductive sex, even going as far as instructing people in how to avoid getting pregnant as a result of sex.

>>1817229
>Homossexuals are unnatural
Homosexuality OCCURS IN NATURE. It's far MORE natural than eating hamburgers.

>There's a reason people think there are 7000 genders.
Even Facebook only has like 70 genders. You probably couldn't even name 20.

>>1817286
So what, are homosexuals just not supposed to ejaculate ever?

>>1817326
>The difference though is that heterosexual sex (normally) leads to children which gives it a purpose beyond hedonism.
So Christians would insist that infertile people never get married? That marriage is equally as productive as a gay marriage.

>>1817515

you will have an easier time legalizing child sacrifice to appease the gods than outlawing promiscuity of any kind.

In primitive societies having lots of members is an asset so homos were persecuted (or found suitable jobs) for being contrary to this way of things. However, in a post-natural fertilization World homosexuality is something no longer to be feared as we have acquired the technology to allow us to circumvent nature.

>>1813804
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bWHSpmXEJs

>>1813804
ELCA Lutheranism permits congregations to be gay affirming.
note that I say permits, rather than compels, so you'll want to look up specifically gay affirming congregations.

>https://www.reconcilingworks.org/ric/

note that even if you're in a gay affirming congregation, officially, the church doesn't support outright degeneracy other than the homosexuality itself -- the elca's official document on human sexuality still affirms that even in gay relationships, monogamy, fidelity, and where legal, marriage, are the ideal forms wherein human sexual relations should occur, so if you're gay, that can be fine, but if you're into snorting coke off of random guys dicks at the local tool shed, then you're doing it wrong.