How did Viking Raids even Sustain Themselves?

They weren't just hitting villages.

They could get monasteries and palaces where all the good shit was.

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They were all natural farmers and peasants.

They only went out on raids if the crop had turned to shit.

>>1811229
Oh so it wasn't a giant search to get rich?

>>1811218
What good stuff was in that?

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>>1811213
>The price of slaves was so cheap back then
Lol no. A Nordic slave would sell for literally thousands of times more on the Eastern trade route. According to some document or other, a single Finnish slavegirl could be bought for 5 altyn and sold for 6666 in the Middle-East.
>The Slavic Tribes and English villages had very low productivity, so there wasn't much for the vikings to steal
Livestock, tools, weapons, armour and especially furs. Silver and gold as well.
>Just crafting the viking armor would take more than the amount of time it would take to produce the goods they are stealing
Which is why most of them did not wear iron armour. Only professional warriors would be found wearing mail in general. Ordinary, seasonal vikings would likely just have a helmet, shield and weapon.
>The percentage of viking ships that sunk on viking raids outweighed any return cost considering the viking ships took a lot of time, energy, and resources to make
They're not going to sink unless you fuck up and end up fighting a host of enemies.

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>>1811229
lol yeah because thor worshipers just want to farm all day...

>>1811255
Yeah, they would have, but because crop yields are in general shit in the Nordic countries, especially in the fjords of Norway, they went out to viking.

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>>1811245
>Oh so it wasn't a giant search to get rich?
Well in the end it turned into it with how it turned Birka from a rural city into viking trade central for goods and wares.

And the Normandy raiders made a living out of pressuring the French to pay protection money after they raided and took over the coastal area in north France.

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>>1811258
bahahaha you actually think thanes want to hang out with a king who just makes them farm all the time?

get real.

>>1811248
>Lol no. A Nordic slave
They brought back Celtic slaves, not Nordic slaves

> literally thousands of times more on the Eastern trade route. According to some document or other, a single Finnish slavegirl could be bought for 5 altyn and sold for 6666 in the Middle-East.
But transporting them all the way there would cost a shit ton. Also that's hard to believe considering there isn't really any work they could do in the middle east especially where there is food shortages

>Livestock, tools, weapons, armour and especially furs. Silver and gold as well.
Can't steal livestock, tools would cost less just to craft at home, celtic villages didn't have time to make weapons or armor they barley produced enough to survive

>silver and gold
That was only held by the rich, peasants didn't touch it

>Livestock, tools, weapons, armour and especially furs. Silver and gold as well.
How did they not get smoked?

>They're not going to sink unless you fuck up and end up fighting a host of enemies.
If one of the cities has a cannon they could shoot it down, thats a risk.

>>1811255
sure

>>1811263
Productivity was so low back then even if they payed 50% of their produced goods wouldn't that be almost nothing?

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>>1811285
farmers don't wear rings.

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>>1811277
>They brought back Celtic slaves, not Nordic slaves
Slaves were taken from everywhere and by everyone.
> Also that's hard to believe considering there isn't really any work they could do in the middle east especially where there is food shortages
Handsome, tall, blonde, blue-eyed young boys and girls. Do you think the great sultanates would buy these exotic slaves for hard labour?
>Can't steal livestock
Yes you fucking can. Are you stupid or something? Pick up a fucking sheep or chicken, carry it onto your boat.
>tools would cost less just to craft at home
Tools are iron. Iron was not plentiful in Viking era Nordic countries.
>celtic villages didn't have time to make weapons or armor
Vikings did not only go West, they went East and South as well. Nevermind the Eastern Vikings, Estonians, Karelians, Finnics, Novgorodians and so forth, who all took part in the Baltic raid-trade system.
>That was only held by the rich, peasants didn't touch it
And the rich are found all over. Great landowners, thanes, monasteries, tribal leaders.
>If one of the cities has a cannon they could shoot it down, thats a risk.
A cannon? In the fucking Viking era. It was good bait this far.

>>1811255
Are you literally retarded? Thor was the god of weather and harvest.

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>>1811306
ahahahahaha yes everyone knows mjolnir was used for farming oh my gosh i'm loling so hard right now

>>1811303
>Slaves were taken from everywhere and by everyone.
Knew it, you're trolling

>Handsome, tall, blonde, blue-eyed young boys and girls. Do you think the great sultanates would buy these exotic slaves for hard labour?
Not biting

>Yes you fucking can. Are you stupid or something? Pick up a fucking sheep or chicken, carry it onto your boat.
You can't ship a boatload of cows on a 3 week trip without them starving stupid

>Tools are iron. Iron was not plentiful in Viking era Nordic countries.
Then how did they even craft weapons and armor to fight with in the first place?

>Vikings did not only go West, they went East and South as well. Nevermind the Eastern Vikings, Estonians, Karelians, Finnics, Novgorodians and so forth, who all took part in the Baltic raid-trade system.
They all had super low productivity too

>And the rich are found all over. Great landowners, thanes, monasteries, tribal leaders.
Ok that's bait

>A cannon? In the fucking Viking era. It was good bait this far.
Cannons were invented in 1260 dumbfuck

>>1811312
Now you took it way too far, anon. You need to ease off a little, to keep them hooked and wondering. They must never truly know it's just bait.

>>1811311
>vikings didn't farm
Ok you're funny, but sure buddy

>>1811319
You're going to prolly have a 3 day ban soon, don't troll next time.

Are you alright? Is there anyone we can call?

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>>1811321
they farmed sometimes but a king's fame came from shield breaking. everyone knows that.

>>1811332
yeah but if you weren't the king you had 0 choice but to farm. Also the rich don't fight they get plebs to do that.

>>1811277
>>1811312

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danegeld#Anglo-Saxon_era

>It is estimated that the total amount of money paid by the Anglo-Saxons amounted to some sixty million pence. More Anglo-Saxon pence of this period have been found in Denmark than in England,[10] and at the farm where the runestone Sö 260 talks of a voyage in the West, a hoard of several hundred English coins was found.[10]

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>>1811339
you don't know anything. princes fought for gold and glory.

>>1811345
>rich people
>risking their wonderful lives when they could just take credit for something their pawns did

>>1811345
why are you being so autistic anon

>>1811343
>60 million pence
How much is a pence? Because if it's worth a dollar in our time that's not enough enough to send the troops to the enemy territory

A perfect example of this is the war in Iraq. Many believe that the war in Iraq is imperialism and is so the U.S can get rich. However the war cost so much money added to the debt it outweighed any wealth we got from it.

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>>1811350
>sturdy thanes
>denying the wolf's feast

>>1811361
Why would the king and their nobles fight when they could get peasants to do it for them?

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>>1811352
in this way was i formed.

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>>1811367
for a name.

>>1811373
I wouldn't be surprised if he never saw battle once. Just like John McCain's son supposedly fought in Iraq when all he did was sit in an office.

>>1811355
I wouldn't say that the Iraq example is quite true. Sure, the US as a country didn't benefit much, but defense contractors, aerospace developers, private security firms and infrastructure firms sure as hell benefited greatly, at little cost given the govt. was bearing the majority of the burden.

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>>1811377
;^)

>>1811386
Exactly, except it's even worse with these rich people because at least he is responsible if he fucks up the drone, if a rich general screws up he just blames his men

>>1811367
The kings and nobles purpose in life was to fight, peasants were too busy farming to be warriors.

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>>1811393
But seriously, back in ye olden times kings were expected to fight alongside their men.