Why was the 1970's so shitty?

it was a wonderful decade for music

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>>1802299
And movies.

Heroin, leaded gasoline, the Arab oil embargo, deindustrialization and the leftover bitterness from the civil rights movement.

>>1802268
lack of cocaine
>ywn live in the 80's

cold war shenanigans, the usual

>>1802268
70s and 80s were the fallout of the civil rights movement and the beginning of the culture wars which are only at their ending now, or at least out of the beginning phase of WOMEN and GAY.

>>1802268
Serial killers.

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>>1802334
>ywn live in the 80's
damn, i feel you

Post-60's disillusionment consoled with hard drugs.

>>1802334
There was plenty of coke in the later part of the 1970's. Also heroin was a big thing.

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>Watergate and people losing all faith in politics
>leftist subversion of the Congress
>loss in Vietnam
>midwestern industrial collapse leading to high unemployment and urban decay
>drug epidemic
>peak violence / murder rate that's almost unmatched since
>legitimate fears that the US might actually lose the Cold War, reflected in widespread blackpilled nihilism and art from the era (dreary, post-apocalyptic fiction, slasher films, grindhouse and exploitation gorefests)
>constant racial unrest with blacks openly assaulting whites in the streets and joining terrorist movements like the Black Panthers

It was fucking horrible

>>1804248
80's sedans are my fetish

>>1804245
Serial killers weren't serial killing any more or less than during any other period, it's just that during the 70s the media started turning serial killers into celebrities.

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>>1804273
a e s t h e t i c

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>>1804298
lemme post more sweet 80's dashboards.

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>>1804331

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>>1804345
I saw a Lagonda up close once.
Fucking pure 80's excess, so good.

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>>1804345
Would it be legal to modify me steering wheel like this?

asking for a friend

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCqJ3qUHqW4

>>1804345
im c*mming

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What the fuck happened to car design?

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>>1802268
Owned one of these once...

You could literally hear the gallons of gas spooling from the back to the front of the car when you slammed the pedal.

The 70's were a magical time, fuck you all.

>>1802320
Star Wars, Aliens, 2001 - almost all the big meme movies, really.

>>1804423
Aliens were made in '86.

>magical time

If you have a thing for unemployment and drug related murders then sure.

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>>1804437
Alien*, rather.

>>1804437
Alien was 1979, however. Not be pedantic, but the franchise was born of the 70's

>>1804423
mullet kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HpmlIDIXPs

>>1804471
Aliens vs Alien actually capture the mood of their respective decades pretty well.

Alien - psychological horror with subliminal feminist mesages, sexual imagery and a feel of claustrophobic dread

Aliens - FUCKING BADASS SPACE MARINES BLASTING HORDES OF AYY LMAO INSECTS WITH LAZOR CANNONS WHILE SMOKING CIGARS AND DROPPING BADASS QUOTES

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Anyone else have a hardon for big Detroit landbarges from the 70's?

>>1804423
my first car was a Firebird

my wallet got raped but it was worth it

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>>1804503
mmm

>>1804505
I very much agree. Which brings us to the total shit like we have recently with garbage like AVP, in which the creatively bankrupt studios heartlessly milk their uninspired IP one final time before trying to recoup their poor domestic box office showings with strong ticket sales in (undiscerning) overseas markets.

Film is some of the truest reflection of where we are as a culture, and what is really going on.

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>>1804514
maybe

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>>1804533
>heartlessly milk their uninspired IP one final time

>where we are as a culture

>>1804533
You now realize that AVP came out more than 12 years ago. It's not exactly a recent film.

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>>1804514
Very much so. I had many formative childhood experiences in a pic related. Good times.

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>>1802299
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIycEe59Auc
>>1804542
Nice.

>>1804533
Modern mainstream movie entertainment is reduced to sequels, remakes, reboots, remakes of reboots and reboots of sequels, capeshit and Amy Schumer tier cringefests. Hollywood as a whole went down the toilet, I can't name a single movie in the last 5 years that I liked which wasn't some hipster low budget shit like Witch or Take Shelter.

>>1804541
Sad that things have been shit for at least 12 years, then. Or that it has been redone into a vidya in more recent (2014) years.

>>1804381
People realized "cigarette carton" wasn't a good aesthetic

>>1804548
Alien: Isolation was decent.
>>1804549
Yeah, breast cancer tumors are so much more aesthetic.

>>1804538
What is Star Wars (1977) vs. Star Wars 7 (2015).

>>1804548
AVP vidya is actually older than the movies and the comics it is based on are from like '91.

>>1804551
Alien Isolation was the only game worth shit in 2014.

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>>1804553
I was agreeing with you and making a pun about heartlessly milking things and where we are as a culture.

Also Cuckoo's Nest is a 70s flick so the .gif seemed extra-appropriate.

>>1804577
I'm not the guy you're talking to, but while that article was interesting, I must take anything he says as an academic with a grain of salt due to his conduct during the famous prison experiment.

>>1804577
Thanks, mate. I misread the cookoo.jpg as a critique of my mental stability, in drawing that comparison.

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>>1804590
How do you think pornography has affected contemporary masculinity?

Hey, it spawned Dungeons and Dragons, so I've gotta thank it for that at least.

>>1804592
Ah apologies for the confusion.

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The true golden age of anime.

>>1804595
I don't have the credentials to state authoritatively. But I don't think it's had that major of an impact. In western society, it's been readily available for a long time, if not freely, then cheaply, and back in the day, young men would just interpose substitutes (whatever remotely erotic pictures they could find) to pornography wherever possible.

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>>1804609
Yeah but I think internet pornos have really kicked things into overdrive though because it's free and available 24/7 whereas it used to be a hassle to get some sleaze.

>>1804630
Maybe. Regardless, I still take anything he says with a grain of salt, considering the experiment he's most famous for involved him taking part and trying to create his desired outcome.

It's not that I think readily available porn can't or necessarily doesn't have an effect, it's more that I suspect his integrity as a researcher, and thus his conclusions as a researcher.

>>1804630
This. I was born in the 80s and was a teenager during the 90s when internet porn wasn't really a thing yet, it was a bitch to obtain a porn mag and I was in a constant fear that mom might actually discover my porn stash. Often I ended up jacking off to a fucking fashion catalog.

Now it's two clicks and you have access to even the most niche fetishes.

>>1804544
these 70's soft rock songs are pretty comfy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXC8QmCrytM

>>1804645
>Often I ended up jacking off to a fucking fashion catalog.

Which is somewhat central to my point. Even in the absence of pornography, you readily found a substitute that still facilitated an escapist sexual fantasy.

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>>1804664
Holy moly are you seriously comparing fantasizing off a fashion mag to literally watching a gangbang?!

>>1804662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMA3lIeqV8M

>>1804675
Its called imagination, family

>>1804675
Yes. In either case, you're leaving reality and utilizing fantasy to achieve sexual release, in this they are exactly identical; their essence is fundamentally the same, what differs is details. If there were truly this addictive drive to escape reality as Zimbardo claims, the fashion magazine should already instill it.

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>>1804514
I prefer something a bit smaller, myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eczGcdT2c_M

Mine's fun as hell to drive.

>>1804683
>>1804686
Yeah but seeing the real thing is way more intense. It's like saying bumping a pinhead of blow is as addicting as doing lines.

>>1804697
Ah, but you're comparing a physical substance to an idealistic event. To a young man in lust, the fashion magazine is plenty intense, as the mind while not necessarily react in logical proportion to an event, particularly if he hasn't encountered much in the way of sexuality previously.

What are some works that really capture that downtrodden 1970s grittiness. Like I think of The Warriors and the absolutely disgustingly grimy, filthy and rusted out NYC it takes place in.

>>1804682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea3Bofkmwlc

>>1804708
Rocky, and The Deer Hunter are two rustbelt-core movies.

>>1804700
>>1804697
Further, to clarify, my point isn't that "ready access to porn for young men doesn't have a negative effect" but instead just that assuming it "ought" to, while seemingly intuitive, is inherently suspect due to the nature of the idealistic and psychological landscape; taking the word of a researcher who is famous primarily for an extremely flawed experiment at face because his assertions match this easy knee-jerk reaction, would be extremely foolish (mind you, outright disregarding it entirely likewise).

This is a subject that bears further study.

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>>1804708
Taxi Driver.

Although I'm not sure if you're attracted to the 70s social mood or you're just an urban decay fetishist like I am.

>>1804708
Taxi Driver is great. Bonus points since it was filmed when there was a sanitation worker's strike and the streets are literally piled in garbage.

>>1804700
dude i guarantee you that if you hooked his brain up to an eeg and showed him a fashion catalog and a 1080p HD gaping asshole the readings would be significantly different

>>1804714
>Deer Hunter
>set in Western Pennsylvania
>mountains are tall like fucking Himalayas

Always triggered the fuck out of me.

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u n f

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>>1802321
>at the end the Vatniks invade Afghanistan
>Middle East in general

>>1804720
Probably, but there are too many factors present to consider, and we're not talking about the one time shock of an errant Goatse here.

>>1804708
Escape from New York. It was filmed in East St. Louis of all places which was an even bigger shithole back then that it is now and that's saying something.

Also Assault on Precinct 13.

>>1804733
thats what im saying about internet porn tho its not a one time shock its a constant stream of high definition filth being beamed directly into your brain

>>1804743
>>1804729
>>1804727
Cleveland and Detroit look this shitty to this day.

>>1804742
Yes, and the brain has a wonderful way of adapting to things like that. That's the nature of the hedonic treadmill.

The question here is whether utilizing one or the other for a long period of time would have lasting effects on one's life, and since they will eventually both mellow out to "just another part of life" as just about everything does, I don't think it would be that big of a deal.

Also respond to the other goddamn post.

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*muffled It Ain't Me playing in the background*

>>1804765
if you want a brain adapted to schlock that is your prerogative

>>1804272
So, it's like right now, but with no internet.

>>1804605
No that's the '80s. 1980s into early 1990s sci-fi/mecha anime is the good shit.

>>1804804
The 70's was the height of Dezaki, plus the decade the only good Gundam series was released.

>>1804716
Little bit of both. Urban decay can look hautingly beautiful but I like the sort of hopeless and nihilistic social millieu of the time contrasted with the excess of club/disco culture. Saturday Night Fever kind of captures that as well.

There's something darkly romantic about it.

>>1804743
It's kind of weird but there's a certain amount of pride I can expect someone to have from living in New York in the '70s. It was a disgusting, filthy, dangerous cesspool but there's a character to something like that that imprints itself on you I'd think. Same for the New York of the Depression era. Especially in comparison to its clean, sterile counterpart of today.

>>1804832
Try Escape from New York.

>>1804812
>plus the decade the only good Gundam series was released
0080 was 1989 though.

Also Zeta's great except for any scene focused on Rosamia or Sarah. Reccoa's a great character if you're not a retard who just writes her off as irrational.

>>1804841
My mother was a teenager in 1970s new York. Said as long as you didn't ride the subway at night and stayed out of the colored neighborhoods, it wasn't nearly as post apocalyptic as everybody claims it was today. Said she got stuck up for her purse once but she was so ready for it that when it finally happened it felt like a mere formality though.

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>>1804853
Speaking of 70's NYC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyZgZ9cN4kQ

>>1804855
It's a shame the death wish series lasted into the late '80s and ended up as something completely different from what it started as. Also lel @ '70s style trailer giving the entire movie away.

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>>1804859
Made me want a Wildey desu

>>1804423
2001 was 1969.

>>1802299
stay funky my brother

>>1804272
This is a seriously good post. Thank you.

>>1802268
Vietnam ending with a whimper, Nixon's resignation over fucking nothing, Jimmy Carter

>>1804796
No, actually worse.

For example the murder rate (per 100k people) in 2014 was 4.4, in 1974 it was 9.8

>>1804841
Don't worry anon, filthy disgusting new York might come back when people get fed up of that libtard DeBlasio, or Long Island if what I'm hearing about Wyandanch and Brentwood are true.

>>1802334
Why is everyone obsessed with the 80s on this board.
All it had going for it was the aesthetic, everything else was total trash unless you like hair metal I guess.

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>>1808094
The a e s t h e t i c s are the only thing anyone will remember from any given decade, so its important to have good asdediks.
this is why no one gives a shit about the 2000's, or the 20's, they had unremarkable aesthetics.

>>1808870
>20s
>bad aesthetics

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>>1808870
>2000's
>bad aesethic

wew lad

>>1808925
Art Nouveau dyed off before WW1, and Art Deco became the meme during the 30's.
What the fuck did the 20's have, flappers?

>>1808870
> they had unremarkable aesthetics.

Only because we're still close to them.

Wait five years, come back here, and find some newfag talking about how they miss the simple clean ipod-y nostalgia lines of early aughts toyotas

>>1808947
Christ that looks awful

>>1802299
>>1802320
Objectively best decade for pop culture

>>1808870
This. The 80's were without a doubt the best looking decade in the last century

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>>1809018

>>1804331

God its like the future.

>>1802268
People who needed to get aborted, didn't

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>>1809027

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>>1808870
The 2000s had an aesthetic and it was a whole lot of things, but not unremarkable.

>>1802268
Short answer: effects of switching from keynesian economies to neoliberal ones

>>1808870
'80s aesthetic is fucking garbage though and enjoyable only in an ironic sense as it's corporate excess and a positive look at the future taken to its most logical coked out extremes. A lot of those cars look like complete shit though, a lot of the fashions were awful. The entire decade is like a parody of the future.

A lot of great music came out of the '80s though.

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>>1809112
best not be dissin muh carfu

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>>1808952
>What the fuck did the 20's have, flappers?
You got a problem with flappers?

>>1809115
'80s cars look like cigarette packs. They're awful.

>>1809135
Bob cuts are gross

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>>1809139
i personally like all the straight lines and geometric shapes utilized in the popular conception of an "80's car".
what's really disgusting is the soap bar style started in the late 90's and ended in the late 2000's, or the current le agressive shark mouth shit.

>>18091567
Cars have looked mostly like shit for 30 years, yes. Car aesthetics peaked in the '60s and '70s. It's been downhill since the move from Coke-bottle styling.

>>1806527
Thanks roe v wade

>>1808094
Ot was FUCK COMMUNISM: the decade. You obvioulsy don't like it since you're likely a lefty yourself.

>>1809070
it was like a new low of bizarrely high-budget, sanatzied shit

>>1804354
I don't see why it would be, just use solid materials like steel in its construction for your own safety though.

>>1804354
The only concern would be air bags, but most inspectors could care less. If your friend wants it, do it mane. It would look rad.

>>1810580
Hol up. Just realized it had no pedals. It needs to have pedals and a reliable shifter.

>>1804373
>>1804370
>>1804331
My godfather drove a GMC pickup from the late 80's/early 90's that had an electronic dash like these. I remember being super enthralled with it as a little kid and not so much as a teenager.

>>1810586
It has one pedal in the front.

It's an automatic, and I think the shift has been replaced with buttons on the right-hand column.

No idea where the throttle is though.

>>1804354
This looks uncomfortable as fuck to drive tee bee aych

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>>1808870
> 2000's
>bad
wewus ladius

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>>1809140
pleb detected

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>>1809139
>Hating on this beauty
How's shit taste going for you?

>>1810664
Ok, I see the button shifter, but msybe you push forward on the wheel?

>>1809051
We have to go back.

>>1804437
>If you have a thing for unemployment and drug related murders

Sounds like an urbanite problem, cupcake.

>>1804577
>>1804595
I think addiction to entertainment is a symptom not a cause.
Defective education by both parents and the state is the main cause. Then there's the fact that many young men have a thought time getting jobs and/or their own house is more important. Also staying in a low paying job and being able to advance.

>>1804708
The Taking of Pelham, Midnight Cowboy, The French Connection, Dog Day Afternoon, Serpico, The Killing of a Chinese Bookie, The Friends of Eddie Coyle, The Driver

>>1802268
The excesses and "freedoms" of the 60's had decayed societal advancement and social structure. That and migration of certain demographics had all but ruined centers of industry and business.

>>1809115
The MR2 is such an engineer's car.

>>1804708
Get Carter, The Last Detail, The King of Marvin Gardens, Scarecrow

>>1811158
Of these, I highly reccomend The Friends of Eddie Coyle and The Taking of Pelham

Favorite, however, is California Split. Taxi Driver and Get Carter may be able to boast the most accurate portrayals of urban decay, but the focus of CS is on the individuals who live it. No film does it better than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuqLFz5Lu1w

yfw this is an /o/ thread

>>1808952
>Art Deco became the meme during the 30's.
Perhaps in Murica. In France it was the peak.

>>1809139
>hating on the MR2
you are literally gay. best regards from /o/ lurker

>>1804796
Not really. At least right now stagnation is on a high note. Back then they were stagnating AND goods were expensive AND there was a legitimate existential threat to American security instead of just being a threat to our insanely safe bubble

>>1804533
t. 2004chan (best time)

>>1804708
Rocky? Although that's set in Philly

>>1804708
Death Wish