50 crusaders vs 50 samurai who would win

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Nigger, what timeline.
What nation do the Crusaders hail from?
Like...

Age of Empires 2 already answered that

>>1797737
That depends entirely what time period, what terrain, and what weapons are allowed.

Samurai had fucking guns m8.

Im assuming you're talking about generic knightly crusaders vs generic noguns samurai. Probably crusaders since they had better armor and probably better experience.

>>1797754
How about a guy from /his/ with a shield vs a guy from /a/ with a katana?

>>1797754
>The eternal 4chan contrarianism
i think he means the meme normie samurai and the meme normie germano-frankish bucket helmet knight. Its still a shit thread tho

Both are pretty well armored and have good weapons, both have swordmanship and zeal so they are pretty well matched.

If the katana is able to penetrate the chainmail, then is probable that the samurai may win since it would be more agile due to lighter armour (only metal plates over leather on torso)

If the katana is not able to penetrate the chainmail at once, then the knight may win due to pure blunt force of the sword. The shield would also help him quite a lot

The samurai got btfo by Portuguese rapiers so I would go for the crusaders

>>1797774
this also, the standard samurai almost never saw battle unless it was against rebels, bandits or other samurai.

The crusader knight fought the multiethnic muslim hordes

>>1797776
I'm willing to bet that despite the weapons disadvantage, the guy from /his/ takes this since he is probably in better shape.

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>>1797778
The shield would be a large factor, and Katana cannot pierce steel armor especially folded.

>crusaders

>>1797784
crusades also happened against

>>1797774
This. The katana is primarily a cutting weapon. A stereotypical crusader would have a shield and mail armor that a katana wouldn't be able to cut through.

1 English Billman vs 1 Ashigaru

who would win

>>1797785
>>1797776
Practically the kid from /his/ because he's not a neckbeard.

>>1797765

what was the answer

lol crusader heavy cavalry would have a field day

>>1797816
>not a neckbeard

>>1797824
No most people from /his/ dual browse /fit/ or /pol/ it seems.

>>1797807
The katana wasn't the samurai's main weapon though.

>>1797778
>needing to know whether or not the samurai are basically dudes in leather with pointy iron or guys in plated armor with guns
>contrarian

>>1797826
>/pol/
>not neckbeard

>>1797829
What was it?

>>1797837
Depends on the time period but the average idea of the samurai mainly used spears

>>1797834
more like right wing version of nu-males

>>1797834
Most people who browse /pol/ are edgy teenagers who haven't had the time to develop into full neckbeards

50 Polybian Principes vs late roman Comitatenses

who would win

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>>1797737
"For Honor" game happened.

Samurais are winning in that game because of the quality of Katanah

webm related, its the unbeatable katana

>>1797858
>anything late roman
>winning at all

>>1797869
Orochi is getting nerfed

>>1797869
Funny how the tip of the kayaks changes in the zoom in

probably the knight, because samurai armor would be just fucked, and also samurai were like 5'3"

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>>1797807
Katana were used to probe gaps in armor, when they were used on the battlefield at all. If you've ever had a chance to see japanese armor up close you would know that no sword could ever cut through even the weak looking parts.

Despite being curved the katana is actually very good at probing the gaps in east Asian armor, and is a decent stabbing weapon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3cpPRBlnwc

>>1797837
Bows, then spears later on. add a lot of other pole arms into the mix.

>>1797869
>Someone was butthurt enough too make edit this good

>>1797737
>>1797754
If it's the Shogunate they mow down crusaders with French single shot rifles.

>>1797778
>the sword. The shield would also help him quite a lot
>If the katana is able to penetrate the chainmail
It won't
>then is probable that the samurai may win since it would be more agile due to lighter armour
Japanese armor was no lighter than western European armor, and tended to be slightly heavier.

>>1797876
>being this much of a faggot
Yeah, they didn't routinely smash their enemies in pitched battles at all.

>>1797958
Jokes on you, the french could be gendarmes. Gun lines a shit.

>>1797869
The katana is allowed to flex where the other sword is held rigid at both ends. Look at the fixed sword and how the impulse travels away from the impact, and then breaks when the reflections meet in the middle. The constructive interference is what breaks the sword. The same thing would happen if you hit the fixed sword with a piece of iron bar.

>>1798193
Holy fuck you're retarded.

>>1798193
That gif is fake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVCWGwvctt4
Go to 21:15

The Crusades went from 1100 to the 1270's
The Samurai existed from about 1200 until 1850

The archetypical samurai army is the late Sengoku one. They had late 16th century firearms technology, experienced military generals, etc. They would crush a Crusader army due to their technological edge.

So, we are talking about people that existed in different time frames.

And there is very little good information about how the Samurai armies from 1200-1270 really were. While they talk about how weak they were, they won every damn battle against the Mongols in the 2nd Invasion.

>>1797821
>>1797765
IIRC didn't the Teutonic Knight beat the Samurai 1v1?

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>>1797737
5 Janissaries

>>1798193
You notice all that but you don't notice how the katana obviously changes into another sword when it cuts?

>>1800665
A periplaneta is an American cockroach.
Are you an aussie shitposter?

>>1797754
Crusaders usually mean French, English or German

>>1800665
Fucking kek, whoever you are, I've grown fond of your shitposting, it's actually pretty funny.

it's a pointless question, but this guy explains well why it is pointless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TNjKg18VPo

>>1797737
probably the samurai because EVERY samurai was a horsearcher.

I like how everybody focuses on the fucking katana, while samurai used naginata and yari in battlr and only thr katana if they lost their horse or their main weapon.

>>1800648
No, the samurai wins thanks to its unique unit bonus. Teut knight beats all other infantry, however.

>>1800800
Crusaders often defeated constantly turkic horse archers while outnumbered.

>>1800800
>probably the samurai because EVERY samurai was a horsearcher.
Not really, only like a fifth of them were typical horse archers (besides that's ridiculous to state they were horse archers but used naginata, it's either one or the other). A good deal of samurai were "poor" (ji samurai) for a warrior caste and those could only field a handful of soldiers, they typically went on foot with usually a naginata or a spear.

Poorest samurai even had some forms of syndicates.

>>1797808
Neither, they'd shake hands and enjoy farming together like good peasants

>>1797901
I'm pretty good at probing your mom, does that make me a decent stabbing weapon?

>>1797807
Katanas could cut a tank in two dumbas a crussader would be no match

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>>1797737
>1 Crusader with crew vs 500 samurai

Who would win?

>>1801581
A tank? Sure hope isis doesn't get any katanas

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>>1800675
?

How the fuck is this even a contest? European Crusaders were stronger and taller than Nips, they had superior arms and armor, and their training could easily deal with two-handed retards who lack shields.

The only time a samurai can best a Crusader is during the 1500's when Japan adopted arqubuses.

5 Danish Raiders vs 50 Mercian Fyrdmen

who yould win

>>1801374
>/his/ - History & Humanities

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>>1801635
That's quite a subtle meme, I like it.

>>1797826
>/fit/
Bunch of fatties or skeletons complaining about nogfs and everyone is an elite level lifter. The generals for power and weightlifting and cheating frauds is good though but everyone else is your typical 4chan user.

>>1800814

wrong

the teut knight doesn't lose to anybody one on one, except war elephants

in groups, it's a different story

do you even spirit of the law?

>>1797846
Kusari-gama?

>>1800800
>probably the samurai because EVERY samurai was a horsearcher.
But that's wrong. They weren't even all mounted.

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Which one /his/?

>>1805483
You can't staple wiffle balls

>>1804758
I want /fa/ to go and stay go.

Bet you can't even binch lmao2plaets

>>1805514
What could the wiffle balls possibly do to the stapler though?

>>1804890
Sorry, buddy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4re-d3P60iE