If you say that all of our actions are determined then your statement is determined, but for a statement to have truth you have to have had reasoning. Without free will there is no reasoning, because you can not choose it. If there is no reason you cant appeal to reason
Unless reasoning is just "justification"
when in reality you were going to make an action no matter what, it was to your own benefit that you justified it with reason, and reasoning.
OP here, for any statement to have truth, we have to assume that the statement was considered against other possible truths, and the most reasonable one was selected, or chosen, which requires free will. Otherwise, words are being spoken and have nothing to do with truth. Then, words that promote the truth of determinism cannot have truth to them.
>>1794790
>for any statement to have truth, we have to assume that the statement was considered against other possible truths
Or again, its just justifications.
No matter what I was going to type this.
For my own benefit I considered alternatives that never happened, because this was going to happen, no matter what.
>>1794804
but your justifications for determinism cannot have truth if they are physically determined, because there was no reasoning behind them, only physical interactions producing the typed words.
>>1794852
Also, isn't reasoning just a justification for a truth?