Why were Spartans so shit at everything?

Because they made slaves do all the work.

Homosexuality is gay.

>>1785807
I thought everyone had gay buttsecks back then. Were there any other ancient civilizations that did NOT specifically have gay buttsecks?

>>1785808

India, China, Arabia, Egypt

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>>1785820
Gonna need sources for that, chap.

>>1785820
China didn't give a fuck about who you fucked

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>>1785820
>India
Had Buttsecks. There's a literal undercaste of Trannies that is fair game for fucking.
>China
Literally like Greece. Even today. You dont just see it because fags will marry women and father kids out of duty but will still keep male lovers on the side.
>Arabia
Biggest closeted Homos in the planet.

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>>1785783
>be Athenian
>lose the biggest war in history
>2400 years later possess a neckbeard /his/ poster to talk shit about the city state that kicked your ass without really trying

>>1785926
I was this guy: >>1785824

So then, Egypt was the only one who NEVER practiced homosexuality? Wow, rly makes u dink. Considering Greece got alot of its culture from Mesopotamia and Egypt.

Guess the Greeks got it from Mesopotamia then.

>>1785942
What war was this, pray tell?

>>1785942
>lose the biggest war in history
What?

They were literally only trained for warfare. No culture at all.

>>1785949
>>1785950
The Peloponnesian War was the largest war the western world had ever seen at the time. The Athenians literally spent 50 years planning for a smackdown with Sparta and they ended up losing because of their own incompetence.

>>1785783
they were gay

>>1785955
That war doesn't really matter b/c both Athens and Sparta got btfo by Macedonian "barbarians", so really your point is quite moot.

Really any nation, no matter how underdeveloped they may seem, can triumph over another more advanced nation, if they are determined enough.

This is what happened to Athens with Sparta, and what happened with both citystates when the Macedonian hordes came in.

>>1785946
No, Egypt had gays, there's a tomb from the Middle Kingdom featuring two men being gay with each other, one of whom is featured in the traditional role women take in murals.

>>1786006
Were ancient Northern Europeans gay as well?

>>1785980
Right, so the wars between the Byzantine Empire and the Sassanids don't matter, because in the end they got conquered by the Muslims?

>>1786017
Who knows, they didn't write anything down.

>>1785980
It wasn't simply Sparta defeating Athens tho.

>>1785955
>>1785980
You're both entirely wrong.

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>>1786022
Yes.

Was this supposed to make me angry, lad?

>>1786024
They probably were gay.

>>1786031
Yes yes, I know, Persia supported Sparta and Athens was supported by other citystates in a League.

But for the most part, it was mainly Sparta defeating Athens.

>>1786314
>You're both entirely wrong.
No u.

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>>1785820
>Arabia
>ancient civilization

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>>1785808
>greeks
>buttsecks
Full homo, yes, no buttsecks though

>>1785783
Most of their losses were naval battles.

>>1786378
>Was this supposed to make me angry, lad?
No, just pointing out the stupidity of your remark.

>>1785808
Greeks were """gay""" in that it was allowed for one man to be close to another man without everyone getting up in arms.
You could hug, kiss, and love each other the way you love your mother. Not with your dick, that is. I hope.

>>1785942
Kek so much this

>>1786656

Wrong, homosexuality was very much a part of it.

>>1786656
>this dumb denial

You belong to /pol/.

>>1786656
Tell me, do you lay in bed at night, unable to sleep, thinking of all the perverted shit people have done in their bedrooms over the years?

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>>1786776
I do because I know I will never be able to experience anything similar or any intimate human contact at all.

>>1785820
> The Sotadic Zone
> not having all kinds of everything

>>1785783
They were really good at one liners, giving women rights, and having a constantly shrinking warrior class.

>>1785820
>Arabia
>culture
>early Iron-Age
Joke.
>India
They literally invented the whole "third gender".