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What the fuck was his problem?

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What the fuck was his problem?
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The CIA's mKultr program was his problem.
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>>1780141
Nice meme response
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>>1780103

He was an anarcho-primitivist. He correctly realized that mankind was on a one-way ride to environmental catastrophe and he did the best he could to stop it. He targeted universities because they are the progenitors of the technology which is ruining everybody's life. In short, he was a dangerously sane man in an insane world.

http://www.eco-action.org/dt/primer.html
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>>1780157

I guess "giving the right answer" could be considered a meme.
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>>1780103
Dude was spot-on. If you aren't alienated by modernity, you're the insane one.
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>>1780203
You're just alienated for being a fucking pleb.
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>>1780203

Yeah, but you know how this works. We'll just select for that compatible insane ones until we're the only ones left.

I'll still miss you guys when you're gone, though. You guys wrote some interesting books about talking gorillas.
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>>1780103
He was right and no one would listen
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>In 1978, he worked briefly with his father and brother at a foam rubber factory,[22] where he was fired by his brother, David, for harassing a female supervisor he had previously dated and who had refused him as a boyfriend for not "sharing much in common."[28][29]

He didn't handle rejection very well.
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>>1780203
>Linkola
>"That there are billions of people over 60kg weight on this planet is recklessness."
is this nigga serious?
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>>1780296
Flyover tubby dumpster detected. How's that cream of mushroom hotdish?
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>>1780203
Contarion spotted
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>>1780302
Who the fuck would deepfry butter?
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>>1780203
Yeah, I'm sure starving third worlders are having a great time without technology and material prosperity. Fuck that pampered twat.
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>>1780302
that fucking menu
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>>1780103
have you even read "the industrial society and its future"?
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>>1780319
Those of the developing world aren't the ones hooked on Xanax and Prozac.
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>>1780319
Those without knowledge of modern technology have no need for modern technology. Social alienation is really only a problem in industrial societies.
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>>1780250
mfw david is the one that turned him in, that backstabber
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>>1780325
his analysis of modern leftists is accurate
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>>1780325
i have
its fucking retarded holy shit
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>>1780328
They don't have the option of using either of those to treat the conditions they're meant to treat, nor the capability to even have those conditions diagnosed.

>Those without knowledge of modern technology have no need for modern technology.

Oh really? So the millions currently dying of starvation or fucking dysentery are only doing so because they've encountered modern technology? REVOLUTIONARY IDEA. STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES, WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR KIDS FROM MODERN TECHNOLOGY.

Fuck yourself.
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>>1780337
Not really.
Whatever he says is either blatantly obvious or just inaccurate.
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>>1780340
Second part for >>1780329
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>>1780325
Is it worth reading?
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>>1780341
>blatantly obvious
so, accurate
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>>1780103
>people still think the unabomber gave a fuck about the environment
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>>1780345
It's not long but it really isn't well argued or very accurate. To give you a run down, it's basically that industrialization makes life too easy and therefore we have no meaning and feel alienated and to stop that we have to put as much strain on the system as possible
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>>1780340
>WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR KIDS FROM MODERN TECHNOLOGY
Judging by the herbivore phenomenon, yes, yes we do.
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>>1780348
If I say "water is wet" I don't think I should get a free dick-sucking from edgy an-prims.
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>>1780340
There wouldn't even be millions of people starving if agriculture had never been invented
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>>1780352
You mean a "phenomenon" that's really just a fabrication of yellow journalism?

>>1780357
Yeah, they'd have already starved.
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>>1780366
>they'd have already starved

No, there would have never even been millions of people lmao
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>>1780369
Because most of them would have either starved, or been claimed by disease and injury as children.
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>>1780357
The green revolution created more misery, when you think about it. More mouths to feed, dependence on finite resources in places that can scarcely afford them, Giffen goods, etc.
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>>1780391
>a handful of people die every year
vs.
>millions of people die every year
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>>1780422
This. Norman Borlaug is the greatest mass murderer in human history 2bh. As a result of the Green Revolution billions of people have experienced suffering that otherwise would have never been born.
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>>1780454
>most people ever made die in their youths
vs.
>a diminishing number of people die in their youths and adulthood as economic interdependence takes hold

>>1780455
>man saves a billion people
>edgy teenager talks shit about him

Truly, a legacy to marvel at. Some day you'll look back on this, when you're living as a semi-adjusted adult and think to yourself "god, I was such an idiot when I was a kid."
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>>1780157
Not exactly wrong though...

After the Korean War, the military was concerned about captured troops being brainwashed into defection. In 1959, 17 year old Harvard Sophomore Ted signed up for some extra cash in a psychological study where the participants exchanged details on hopes dreams and fear. The program, run by a former OSS trainer, would then use this to ridicule and harass them in psychological torture. Every couple of years they would called back in to watch films of their abuse to see how the felt about it now.
I think he wanted to feel more powerful by attacking the problems he saw rather than the real work of fixing thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Harvard-Unabomber-Education-American-Terrorist/dp/0393020029
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Autism
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>>1780168
>He was an anarcho-primitivist
He certainly was not.

In the man's own words:

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-truth-about-primitive-life-a-critique-of-anarchoprimitivism
>>1780296
There are very very few races that have the frame to weigh more than 60kg, it's pretty much just nordics (including balts. poles, ethnic russians) and samoans.
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>>1780340
>So the millions currently dying of starvation or fucking dysentery
Literally what's wrong with either of those things? It's just death.

It is also, as pointed out a direct cause of technological interference in the third world which has led to unsustainable populations and living conditions.

I bet you're an anglo, aren't you?
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>>1780906
This, the Eternal Anglo's road to hell is paved with good intentions and he's too stupid to even realize he is the cause of his own misery.
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>DUDE FUCK SOCIETY LMAO
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Kazcinski was right about the libcucks.
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>>1781485
The whole over-socialization thing did make a lot of sense.
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>>1781496
>over-socialization

?
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>>1782517
read the manifesto
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>>1780103
he was probably right but I still want to use my computer
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>>1780903

>So I agree with the anarchoprimitivists that the advent of civilization was a great disaster and that the Industrial Revolution was an even greater one.

He says that the advent of civilization was "a great disaster" and the Industrial Revolution was an even greater disaster. These are the opinions of an anarchoprimitivist. He criticizes many of the arguments that are frequently associated with primitivism, but in the end he agrees with the basic ideas underlying those arguments. This was a very interesting article, but it doesn't change the fact that Ted Kaczynski truly believed that technology was ruining people's lives.
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>>1780903
In that article he basically says that primitive life wasn't a magical utopia but that it would still be preferable
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>>1780467

Yes, millions of people each with their own wants and needs in a world of finite resources where the population has never been larger. We definitely need a million more people to consume more than 10 of them will ever produce.
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Are some of his bombs still out there, waiting to be set off?
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>>1782573
>>1782562
Yes, but he addresses the egalitarian and collectivist fantasies of the anarcho-primitivists, ideals he does not believe in and share.

Personally I'm very partial to synthesis with Linkola, Ness etc. so of course I am not a "Kaczynskiite".
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>>1782657
He's still an anprim, just with some added edginess
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>bombs some low-level office workers
industrial society = owned lmao
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>>1782671
He is literally one of the few to realize that autistic science nerds are the true threat.

Just lmao if you actually think Washington, Beijing, New York or Shanghai is more powerful than Silicon Valley.
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>>1782684
>he is da troo jenius!!11!!!!
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>>1782689
u mad kek
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>>1782657

>Yes, but he addresses the egalitarian and collectivist fantasies of the anarcho-primitivists

Indeed, I read the entire thing. It was very interesting. However, he still basically agrees with the central ideas of anarchoprimitivism, mainly that civilization was a terrible mistake. He clearly disagrees with the idea that primitive living will somehow result in some sort of utopia. He understands that primitive living is hard. However, he still believes that it is superior to civilization.

A primitivist that criticizes certain aspects of primitivism is still a primitivist so long as he still holds to the core beliefs of the ideology.
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>>1782696
Yes, but that makes him a primitivist, not an anarchoprimitivist as that would imply an egalitarian and collective mode.
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>>1782684
>bombs silicon valley mail room guy
lmao computers don't even exist anymore nerds eternally btfo
brb going to tha forest where theres no nerds LOL
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>>1782692
mildly irritated at the braindead retards who take this clown seriously, yes
>inb4 but he wuz so Gud at math111!!
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>>1782726
It was a symbolic act. Much like ISIS does now, he may not have won the war or even the battle, but he won many hearts and minds.
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>>1782735
people only like the unabomber superficially, bunch of college kids on their computers pretending like they aren't part of the system. Ted would bomb you if he had the chance.
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>>1782701

That makes more sense, you are correct. I keep forgetting that anarchism typically has its own beliefs more than simply not wanting a state. Ted didn't care about the state. He didn't bomb police. He didn't care about racism or oppression, nor did he believe that primitivism would solve those problems.
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>>1782751
>he's not prepping to go innawoods
Not my fault I wasn't born with necessary and useful skills like how to raise a cow or make a bow from nothing, but I'm working on it
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Adam Lanza basically had the same philosophy
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>>1782765
>Not my fault I wasn't born with necessary and useful skills like how to raise a cow or make a bow from nothing
better look it up on the internet lmao
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>>1782777
He was better. Truly a saint
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>>1782782
I know you think you're making a point, but you're really only highlighting the tragic turn human life has taken.
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>>1782793
Yeah, dying at thirty from a minor infection with no culture to speak of was a real 10/10
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Clearly he has mental problems.
I looked into him. He's a smart guy.
But he decides to blow things up? He's not a smart guy now is he?
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>>1782799
>no culture
>he doesn't want to sing ancestral songs around the campfire
And what's wrong with dying at thirty? What is the deal with this grotesque life cult your kind has constructed?
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>>1782812
>singing songs around a campfire
That sounds like a form of civilization
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>>1782815
Are you one of those autists that will claim that having more than one person existing in a habitat is civilization just to nitpick my views with your autistic non-arguments?
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>>1782825
>implying that's wrong in any way
Civilization naturally occurs out of humanity but anprims are too autistic to realize this. They just daydream about their utopia as if it were some big camping trip
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>>1782836
I know that my view is reactionary, you aren't really bringing anything new to me.
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>>1782836

>Civilization naturally occurs out of humanity

That's literally the naturalistic fallacy. Something happening naturally doesn't make it good. It could be that all of our technology is poisoning the ecosystem and driving the entire planet (including humanity itself) to eventual extinction.
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>>1782850
I'm saying it happens uncontrolly
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>>1782863
That I don't disagree with either.

I believe we have irreversibly fucked everything and it started as early as 10000BC (estimated)
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>>1782777
Yep. And they both spoke to Zerzan.
What is it with primitivists and murder, and what is it with Zerzan and murderers?
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>>1782789
At least Ted made an attempt to have rational target selection. Lanza killed a bunch of toddlers and failed to get any popular recognition for his manifesto.
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>>1783483
did lanza even write a manifesto?
all i have are some of his posts on an imageboard.
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>>1783496
I've seen attempts to compile his forum posts into a manifesto but I guess he didn't self-publish anything. His shooting was pretty confusing, he didn't seem to have a coherent message like Rodger or Dorner.
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>>1783496
nope
I wish the feds would release his writings though, I want to know why he thought women are selfish
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>>1783514
Why do you think he thought women are selfish?
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>>1783682
Because in the list of his documents the report mentions a file called 'selfish' and apparently it's about the inherent selfishness of women.
I'm primarily interested in it because as far as I know, he didn't say much on women as a whole.
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>>1783688
What I'm saying is he probably thinks women are selfish for the same reason lots of these shooters think women are selfish, they probably didn't have much success with them.
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>>1783695
Eh maybe. Lanza's sexuality is a very strange and mysterious topic though, so there may be more to it. I'm not even sure if we know if he was straight.
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