What did the ancient Mediterranean world think of black people?

>>1773031
The Egyptians saw them as slaves, the Chartagineans and the Romans as vassals/barbarians.
The only respected niggers were Ethiopiansa who were actally based

>>1773039
Can you refrain from such unscholarly language?

>>1773031
They saw them as savages who should be avoided and no better then animals.

>>1773050
>>1773044
>>1773039
Hmm so was a deep dark negro an uncommon sight in their world?

There weren't really unified opinions across the Mediterranean world back then, and there aren't today. Your question is pretty terrible.

>>1773031
how are we supposed to answer your question.
I don't think there are any historical sources on this subject.

>>1773031
Test

>>1773128
high test

>>1773031
since when did this board become so shit?
is it the standard twitchan redditor influence?

>>1773163
Reddit has something to do with it, but you have to remember that this was the fear that kept moot from making a history board.
The previous balance between /lit/ and /pol/ in terms of the distribution of 4chan's intellectual and pseudo-intellectual agents was working fine. Stormfront, the JIDF, and a few Ron Paul holdouts had /pol/. Everyone else who liked talking about politics could sneak it in under the guise of ideological critique of the hegemonic ideology on /lit/, everyone was happy enough to stay on their own board.
/his/ ended up taking overflow from both of those boards, and for the first time /pol/ and /lit/ began to actively compete for control over a board. /k/ommandos and Redditors and others also posted here a lot from day one, but enough people from /lit/ shout '/pol/ faggots get out' and 'Were Egyptians really Africans? Aren't Afro-Americans retarded?' threads get made that this has become the effectively defining dialectic of the board.
Now Reddit is coming here more and more, Hiroshimoot is actively considering nuking or nerfing NSFW boards to save Asian shekels, and /his/ is increasingly looking like trench warfare a la Iran-Iraq war, complete with electric swamps.

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>>1773191
>now reddit is coming here
The place with respectable history boards is coming here and spoiling what would otherwise be enlightened, well sourced, and open minded 4chan discussion, /pol/ aside?

Honestly looks more like /pol/shit, /rel/shit, and """""humanities'''''''''' is piling up.

>>1773210
Jesus they're everywhere

>>1773057
Negros were indeed very rare to be seen as Roman citizens or Chartaginean citizens, but really common in the Egyptian army and working as slaves both in Pharaonic Egypt and Tolemaic Egypt.
The Romans had commercial relations with Aksum(ancient Ethiopia), but really slight.
The sahara basically has been until the Muslim slave trade an unpassable barrier between Negros and Whites.

>>1773031
niggas where a rare sight on the ancient world, the only ones where mostly in maghreb as slaves from raids and on southern egypt.

Is probable that Roma had some as literal circus maximus freaks or vanity slaves.

Pretty sure ptolomeian dynasty should have some literarure regarding their interaction

>>1773039
except they rarely saw any ethiopian at all.
On those days ethiopians mainly dwelled on the arabian peninsula and even india.

As the usual empire-minor civilization relations go it is very likely that only a few, mostly greco-egyptian people knew of the nigger hell south while niggas knew they better not dare to fight the whitey man o' iron

>>1773031
Not too much. They weren't particularly racist to them, it's hard to be racist towards black people from the south when theres white snowniggers to the north all the time.

>>1773273
The Romans, or rather Augustus, didn't want a war with the black kushite Kingdom so they basically appeased them and gave them part of Roman Egypt.

>>1773333
Except Augustus was the first Emperor to conquer Egypt itself.

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>>1773357

>>1773191
and then they decided to combine history with philosophy(which includes religion), and that screwed up even more.

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Pic related a student of philosopher Erodes the Atticos in Athens. Not even kidding but they wuz philosopherz.

>>1773210
Reddit's culture is literally antithetical to imageboard culture.
>>>/reddit/

>>1773450
That's as silly as the Olmec heads and Hannibal being black, just fucking stop.

>>1773719
Then leave

>>1773787
Why? I like this place, it's just disappointingly ahistorical sometimes.

>>1773273
>The sahara basically has been until the Muslim slave trade an unpassable barrier between Negros and Whites.

this idea is dated and innacurate

>>1773044
no he should not it's a anime site

>>1773031
Fun fact: The word "Gorilla" was originally the word used by the Greek explorer Hanno the Navigator to describe blacks. So gorillas are named after blacks.

>>1774317
>Greek
Carthaginian*

>>1773686
That's actually true though.

>http://quod.lib.umich.edu/b/bulletinback/0054307.0003.001/6:2?g=bulletin;rgn=full+text;view=image;xc=1
>Philostratus relates that Herodes was bitterly disappointed in his son, Atticus, who, besides being "foolish, bad at his letters and of a dull memory," was "a drunkard and given to senseless amours." In an effort to encourage Atticus to learn the Greek alphabet, Philostratus tells us that Herodes took twenty four boys into his house to be educated. If Atticus could learn all of their names, each of which began with a different letter, his father's goal would be attained. Of these boys Polydeukion, Achilles, and Memnon won the admiration and affection of their mentor, Herodes, because they were "highly honorable youths, noble-minded and fond of study, a credit to their upbringing in his house." Sadly, all three died prematurely, and Herodes mourned them as if they had been his own sons.
>As early as 1915, Graindor suggested that Memnon, an Ethiopian, might be portrayed in a head in Berlin (Fig. 6), which comes from near Thyreatis in the Peloponnese, an identification that has been widely accepted.

Anything south of Ethiopia was considered to be strange fire people by the ancient greeks.

>>1773357
He didn't conquered it though, it was offered to him

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>>1773031
>What did the ancient Mediterranean world think of black people?
Egyptians thought they were nubian cunts

Greeks thought they were magic

Romans thought they were barbarians with tradable goods

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periplus_of_the_Erythraean_Sea

>>1774279
>Imageboard culture is irrelevant to what should be historical discussion.
Err...no, not really. This is 4chan, it's an imageboard with a distinct culture. You're a migrant.

>>1774299
No it isn't. Just because you're a race creationist does mean that happlogroup distributions conform to your fantasy

>>1774596
>You're a migrant.
Just like everyone was at one point. I've been here since '08.

I'm not ashamed of not being an '03fag.

>This is 4chan, it's an imageboard with a distinct culture
4chan's culture isn't incompatible with a desire for better content. Take a look over on /qa/ or any of the archived state of the board threads, the dissatisfaction with "& humanities", and the low effort blatantly ideological OPs that beg for argument rather than discussion.

These are board conditions that chaff at many and seeing a community capable of maintaining a claim to scholarship on the internet, well, for those who come here for history more than memes, the grass might look greener.

All this to say, pointing at Reddit as a cause for any dissatisfaction strikes me as odd when the issues I see commonly pointed to are a result of the domestic userbase' posting habits and doubly so when they've the capacity for comparatively dry, but moderated and sourced regular discussion.

I can propose no way to bridge AskHistorian's wealth of accredited contributors & constricting moderation, with the enjoyable absurdities and lax standards of /his/, but perhaps it does me enough good to vent after trying to kick up discussion of some topic of interest to me and getting buried by the same memes time and again.

>>1775706
y-you too

>>1774596

Pictured above: Autism

>>1773210
t. reddit

I bet you actually believe a handful of postgrads backed by uptight moderation equates to a scholarly environment

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>>1774317
But that's wrong, dumbass. Hanno encountered chimps and described them as a race of hairy men climbing and swinging in trees.

>>1776404

he actually thoughy they were men? imagine how creeped out he must have been by them

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>>1776453
I could kind of see it, especially if you've never seen anything like it before and probably weren't able to get very close to get a really good look at them. I never understood why people consider apes to be "cute" or something, personally they usually fall into the uncanny valley of almost-human but not quite.

>>1776351
When compared to We Wuz posting and """subtle""" pol threads, it certainly looks that way.

>>1776462
The only cute apes are the baby ones, because we look more like baby apes than adult ones.

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>>1777822
>>1776462
Handsome Gorilla's are where it's at anyway

>>1773039
we blacks weren't slaves, we was kings

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>>1773039
To be fair, the Ethiopians at the time were comprised of the Amharic people who are a hell of a lot whiter then the Oromo and Tigray ethnicities often associated witth Ethiopia. Amharic people were basically Jewish Arabs. King Menelik the First was said to descend from Soloman himself.

Pic related, an easy way to spot Amharic people is to look for lighter skin and a Jewish nose.

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Read "Race and Ethnicity in the Classical World"

Selected and Translated by Rebecca Kennedy, Syndor Roy, Max Goldman
-it is just straight translations of ancient works regarding race without modern bullshit interpretations being inserted. Solid read.

Western ancients viewed "blacks" similarly to how they viewed Scythian/Germans/etc. Skin color decided nothing.

dumb and "baked by the sun" with an ability for being crafty was how "Ethiopians" were often described by Romans/Greeks.

Environmental determinism defined many of their views on race.

>>1774507
Exactley like the province of Ionia...
Still took control over it.