What are Iraqis? Are they arabized sumerians/babylonions? It's

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They are part of the victorious Arab tribes that conquered Mesopotamia/Levant that would mix with the local semites/persians and later become it's brightest Arab tinkers as they settled in the Islamic capital of the World.

Unlike the shitty ones currently making up the Arabian penninsula and Gulf states.

>>1757772

I've heard it said that the Egyptians of today are basically the same people as the ancient Egyptians. So this does not also apply to Mesopotamia? Did all those ancient semitic people die out?

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>>1758913
Of course not, their genetic heirtage lives on, mixed or not.

But their entire identity is long gone and whats left are arabs.
To call them anything else would be insulting towards them cause there are no "WE WUZ URUK N SHEIT" arabs like modern white people cling to Romans or modern greeks to ancient greeks, whom were Turkic.

>>1757735
>Are they arabized sumerians/babylonions?
Yes
>Are they arabized persians?
kinda' Mesopotamia wasn't the original heartland of the Persians but in most Persian empires it was certainly a major center.

Mostly I'd say they are Arabized Mespotamians and Arabized Persianized Mespotamians.

Arab isn't race, its a culture group. In early every place the Muslims went to the Arabs were a minority in a sea of people. However becoming Muslim lifted tax burdens, most people would then give themselves Muslim (Arab) names, and the religion of both the state and the religion was Arabic. Thus in a few 100 years you'd have people that claimed they were Arab. Also in early Islam converts were looked down upon. There were records of when certain families converted. I'd be better to say you were an Arab rather than a Babylonian convert.

>>1757735
All of the above

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How are Marsh Arabs not just Sumerians when they basically still live the same way?

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>>1758968

>>1758975

WE

Iraqis are basically arabized Mesopotamians

Check out the Marsh Arabs in particular

South: Marsh Arabs.
North: Kurds and christianized Chaldeans.

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>>1758932

>modern greeks to ancient greeks, whom were Turkic.

WE WUZ PHILOSOPHERS N SHIET

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>>1758975
>website is called REAL history
Great source

>>1757735
The idea of Iraq as a nation or identity rather than an administrative division is a fiction. It is in truth chunks of the peripheries of other groups, the Kurds in the north, Sunni Arabs in the west, etc. that were lumped together administratively by various historical empires such as the Ottomans, Europeans, various claimed Caliphates etc. Because the Tigris and Euphrates rivers made it sensible for multi-national empires to administrate around. In this ae of Nation-States however those rules no longer apply and you get the mess we have now. An entity like Iraq is not supposed to exist outside the context of a larger empire.

>>1758950
Weren't Iraqis considered Arab before Islam?