Jewish-German connection

they couldn't own land
they had some protection in the hre after huge massacres during the crusade times
due to the jobs they were allowed to do they became a part of the urbanized merchant class so they were affected by developing ideas relatively fast and had connects in business and social circles just because of the jobs they were allowed to do such as usury

The majority of Ashkenazim lived in the Austria-Hungary region when surnames became commonplace, which is why Yiddish surnames are most often Germanic. They migrated East as conditions became less hospitable for Jews in Western Europe.

As far as the Jews in Germany proper, they became quite segregated from the Eastern European majority. The Easterners stereotyped them as pretentious and unfriendly, while the German Jews considered the Easterners superstitious boors with no class.

Jews in Western Europe tended to be much better educated than the working class ones who came from the East, particularly in England and Germany.

> the Dreyfuss Affair suggests that just being Jewish meant Dreyfuss was believed to have German sympathies.

That actually had more to do with Dreyfus being from Alsace. Dreyfus' Jewishness made him a target for accusations of espionage, but officers in his position were chosen for their knowledge of German language and culture. Alsace-Lorraine was annexed by Germany at the time Dreyfus moved to Paris, and it was only after that that he enlisted with the military.

>>1748134
The urban part is what's really relevant. Jews were 5-10% of the Berlin population before the war, even if they were only about 1% of the total German population.

Most Germans still lived rural lives in the early 20th century, insulated from cosmopolitan turbulence.

>>1748134
Citizenship was restricted to Christian natives in the >H>R>E which was why Jews didn't have much power at the time.

The Napoleonic era abolished this system, which gave Jews only slightly less rights compared to Christian citizens. In fact, France was the first country to pass laws emancipating Jews, followed by German territories over a decade later--Prussia twenty years later, and "Germany" proper not until 1871, long after Greece, Italy, Sweden, and Belgium had passed such laws.

>>1748101
>Yiddish is literally German with the Hebrew alphabet.


Surprise! Most people think Hebrew is some ancient language or something lol, no one knows it was made in the 19th century, as opposed to the ancient yiddish which sounds much different

>>1749614
No, modern hebrew is from the 19th century. The torah is in hebrew.

>>1748101
>There were less Jews in Germany than there are in America
Jews still only = 2% of the American population, not particularly higher than the 1% in Germany assuming >>1748212 has the numbers right. And I would be surprised if Jews were any more overrepresented in Germany than they are in America now. I think it merely appears that way because thinkers have had less importance since the 60s. We have pundits instead of philosophers now.

>>1749614
>ancient yiddish
Middle Ages isn't ancient anon.

>>1748212
>>1749731
Also the 5-10% figure in pre-war Berlin is much the same as the percent in New York (8%)

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>>1749579
>France was the first country to pass laws emancipating Jews, followed by German territories over a decade later
And they now have the most Jews outside of Burgerland and Israel. Apparently Napoleon wanted the shekels:
http://jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=651

>>1749777
>better than the Germans

Prussia at least adopted a similarly pragmatic attitude toward the Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_the_Great#Religious_policies

Also
> his practical yet prejudiced attitude towards Jews was similar to his father's
So this must have been the attitude for some time.

>>1749749
Berlin was far more important nationally than New York, being equivalent to New York and Washington and Los Angeles all as one city.

>>1750141
France brought liberal reforms to the Rhineland under Napoleon, overturning the old religious hierarchy and extending full citizenship rights and privileges to Jews. These laws were reversed after Napoleon's defeat.

This actually has hugely important policy implications. A young man named Herschel Marx was now able to practice law despite his Jewish faith. By 1818, the law had changed such that only Protestants could be lawyers. As such, Herschel converted to Lutheranism. His son Karl Marx was raised in the faith, well aware that a more liberated future based on the ideals of the French revolution was within grasp.

>still haven't seen /pol/ shit yet
Impressive

>>1750259
>website called jewornotjew

>>1750581
It's run by Jews though

>>1750259
We're here.

>>1748101
because they won the war m8, Napoleon was right all along. Imagine if the Nazis won. All Jew names would be replaced with prominent Nazis and Italians

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>>1749614
>Most people think Hebrew is some ancient language or something lol, no one knows it was made in the 19th century, as opposed to the ancient yiddish which sounds much different

>Hebrew
>Made in the 19th century

>Ancient yiddish
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and say you typed the both of those flip flop by mistake

Hebrew is the language of Israel. It is a language of semetic origins. It has much more in common with Arabic than it does with any European language

Yiddish is bacically just german. If you are fluent in one, you are fluent in the other. Yiddish has a handful of Semetic loanwords and phrases borrow from the hebrew language but not enough to render it unintelligible to a german speaker

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>>1750251
>His son Karl Marx was raised in the faith, well aware that a more liberated future based on the ideals of the French revolution was within grasp.
Define "within grasp"

>>1750876
Ya Shmuck!

I AM AUTISTIC!!!!!

>>1748101
>>1749614

Saxons are literally cousins of Ashkenaz
Isaacson = Saxon

>father's father was a Jew, but that was kept secret. Helmut Schmidt
Germany is the land of crypto-yids, isaacsons (saxons), and ashkenazis
http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=530

>Boris Becker was born to Catholic parents. His mother, Elvira (Pisch), and her family, fled Czechoslovakia during the Russian invasion. Her family has Jewish relatives

Jews mixed with Germans since Roman times. Semitic features blended in.


>The Yeniche German vocabulary originates from Yiddish, Hebrew, Judeo-Latin
>Native speakers:16,000 in Germany, Swiss, Austria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yenish_language

>Rotwelsch - German language with significant influences from Judæo-Latin, the ancient Jewish language of the Roman Empire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotwelsch

>German language, Lotegorisch, is based on Hebrew, lochne kodesch, from the Hebrew: laschon = "tongue, language", and kodesch = "holy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotegorisch

>Manisch, German derived from Yiddish
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manisch
goths confirmed for yids!

>germans being efficient and thorough in hiding their yiddish ancestry
Heinrich Heine
http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=1553

>Mercedes, was not only a German, but a Jewish brand.
Emil Jellinek

http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=1007


Nazi Erhard Milch
http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=858

Johann Strauss, his grandfather was Jewish, but converted.
http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=983

>>1748101
Germany has rich Ashkenazi Jew heritage. From the time of the Holy Roman Empire, many of the families of nobility were Jewish.

Most people nowadays cannot fathom the impact the attempted communist revolution in 1918, which was led by Jews, had on German-Jewish relations.

Before 1918, Germany was not an anti-semitic country. In fact, German (and Austro-Hungarian) Jews were the most assimilated, best treated Jews in Europe, they were so assimilated that they felt confortable to discriminate against the Russian "Ostjuden" as inferior.


Germany was one of the most jew-tolerant places in Europe until 1933.

Russia and even France was more anti-Jewish than Germany. Jews were even ennobled in the Kaiser's court if they were in favor with Wihelm II.

Wilhelm II may have made some anti-Jewish remarks in his lifetime, but even he was horrified at Kristallnacht and the gangsterish brutality inflicted on German Jews. At his worst, the Kaiser never oppressed his people like the Nazis did.


West Jews were educated and rich. Highly assimilated and in position of power.
East(Russian) Jews wee mostly poor or extremly poor, uneducated or illiterate, mostly speaking local russian dialects. Lived in ghettos or their own settelments wih their own laws and customs.
West Jews were terrified by East Jews influx and influenced Western goverments to stop it.


The Jews native to Germany were quite assimilated. However, as a consequence of Pogroms and famines in the east, huge numbers of Russian and Galician (Austrian) Jews (Ostjuden) migrated to the West, eventually reaching Germany, France, Denmark and the U.S. Those eastern Jews unlike their western counterparts, had their own unique culture based highly upon their local cultures. Around the time Bismarck unified Germany, Jews did not face any legal persecution and as such they were not required to live in Ghettos unlike their Russian counterparts

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>>1751294
>From the time of the Holy Roman Empire, many of the families of nobility were Jewish.
No.

Jews were forced to wear silly hats ("Judenhut") and yellow circles in the HRE.

>>1748101
>Many jews were adel and uradel ...
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/46841733/#46843788

>>1750885
Immediately attainable?

>>1748101
the Jews we've come to know and hate come from eastern Europe/Eurasia, an later migrated to other parts of the world, intermarrying with other Europeans. The real semitic Jews were Aramaic, syriac, nomads from Jordan, etc.

Khazar Jews adopted the religion for personal gain. Over time their ethnicity and religion became synonymous

>>1749731
>And I would be surprised if Jews were any more overrepresented in Germany than they are in America now.

How are Jew overrepresented in the US? I thought that was just a Stormfag meme?

>>1751294
>Jewish nobility

Wait, what? Source?

Some medieval Italian families claimed Jewish origin but it was mostly a way to connect themselves to the origins of Christianity.

This is /his/, not /pol/. Are you trying to say something?

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>>1751881
So this is what /pol/ looks like huh

So much for non-shitposts.

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>>1752086
All I see is /pol/ shitposting. This is not how history works, anon. If those pictures are as trustworthy as /pol/ pictures about the holocaust then they are completely worthless.

>>1752117
Don't reply to shitposters. It only encourages them.

>>1751278

If you dig far enough you'll find millions of people with jewish """"ancestry"""

I'm sure we're all related to Genghis Khan in some way, too. maybe Barbarossa. Who the fuck knows.

who gives a shit? schmidt was still one of the best Kanzler this country ever saw.

>Boris Becker
>literally a tennis player and tabloid fuckface

>>1751278
>Saxons are literally cousins of Ashkenaz
>Isaacson = Saxon
Wrong. The name Saxons for the Ingvaeonic confederacy of tribes derived from their main weapon, the seax or sax. This word derived from Proto-Germanic sahsą for dagger or knife, which in turn derived from PIE *sek- "to cut".
All those languages you listed are just varieties of Rotwelsch, which is medieval German thieves' cant.
>goths confirmed for yids!
Where the hell are you taking this conclusion from? What does Manisch have to do with Gothic or Goths?

>>1752151
Here, check out these.

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/10/index-of-published-evidence-on.html

>when /pol/ gets so buttblasted they dump their entire folder

Do they have some centralized database of this stuff, because it's always the exact same posts?

>>1752243
They didn't find human skin lampshades but they did find pieces of human skin with tattoos. So yeah, there is some truth to these claims. Same with the soap.

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauTrials/ForensicReport.html

>3. Based on the findings in paragraph 2, all three specimens are tattooed human skin.

Ok who invited the /pol/lack?

>>1752431
>soap hoax
>hoax

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Spanner

>>1751311
>implying there were commom laws in the HRE
Jews were living under the nominal protection of the king/emperor, since the emperor had most influence over free imperial cities/ Reichsstädte, it was there were most jews settled down. This led to a high urban concentration of jewish people in Germany. However this protection was far from secure, the city of Nürnberg for example razed the entire jew district as they were looking for a bigger market place inside of the town walls. Happenings like this made the jews very mobile, they were used to move away if things got unpleasant and because of that the jewish community was and is highly connected.

>>1752503
>http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
Are you literally retarded?
>manufactured
>a limited quantity of the soap was produced on his order to clean autopsy rooms.
Do you even understand the difference? So yes, there is some truth to this rumor. Of course it wasn't manufactured, but there was one Nazi doctor experimenting with this.

>A new laboratory analysis of the soap revealed human fat was one of its components, spokesperson for the Gdansk branch of the IPN, Paulina Szumera, told Deutsche Presse-Agentur in a telephone interview on Friday.
>The piece of soap was used as evidence in the post-WWII Nuremburg Trials where prominent German Nazis were prosecuted for crimes against humanity. At the time, prosecutors lacked the technology to determine whether the soap contained human tissue.
>Human remains used to make the soap were believed to have been brought from Kaliningrad, Bydgoszcz and the Stutthof Nazi German concentration camp located about 30 from Gdansk.
>The IPN investigation found that the soap in question produced by Professor Spanner was used to clean operating and autopsy rooms.

>>1751977
Why are facts antisemitic? Everyone cries when there a whites everywhere in white majority countries but pointing out that Jewish people are grossly overrepresented in important positions is somehow racist?

>>1751824
Oh damn those evil Jews! Trying to make the world a free and fair society!

>>1751844
Eh, I don't see what's wrong with this. Wartime propaganda is often nasty, and he was worried Soviet villagers may assume starving Wehrmacht deserters would not be a threat if they wandered into their village.

And as a communist, a Jew, and a Soviet citizen, Ehrenburg had every reason to hate German soldiers.

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wtf I love jews now

>>1753497
>t. I don't know what communism is

>>1753995
None of the people in that picture ever claimed to have created communism, anon

Communism is a stateless society where there's no class exploitation and industries are controlled by workers rather than investors.

>>1748101
after the Jews were kicked out of England, France, and Spain, they were welcomed by Prussia. A country which formed the nucleus of the German nation-state.

>>1751753
they're either overrepresented or the number of jews is understated. probably both.

>>1754265
>t. reddit

well this thread started off good

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>>1755232

we have seen all these before anon

got anything new?

>>1755235
>sex epidemic
Actually less and less people have sex. Millennials are more conservative than their parents.

I suppose Jews are also responsible for Japanese porn industry (which is one of the biggest in the world) and Yakuza?

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>>1755244
Sexuality is more than physical.

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>>1755237
i gotta post all the classics first

>>1755272
Are Jews also responsible for video games? Even Nintendo?

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>>1755277
i would have to do more research before confirming but i'm open to the idea

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>>1751278

>mfw Nazism and the Holocaust was nothing more a Judeo-German conspiracy to bump off their lesser Eastern cousins and get a foothold in Israel.

all these posts seem very ironic considering
>>1751716
i guess they lack any self awareness

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>>1756119
Literally all of Trump's grandkids are Jews