Judaism to Christianity

>>1718923
Gospels + Neoplatonist philosophy

>>1719138
The Gospels and Neoplatoism both come after Christ. What is the religion that is the Judaism and the Christian transition. John the Baptist was respected by the Jewish community and the Early Christians.

>>1719218
>What is the religion that is the Judaism and the Christian transition.
If I understand you right, you're looking for:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebionites

>>1718923
The Jewish Messiah came, was rejected by the Jews, crucified, rose from the dead, all Jews who believed in Jesus became the first Christians.

Same dividing line exists today.

>>1719243
Cool man, thanks!

I was also thinking Essenes

>>1719218
John the Baptist was doing something the Jews had been doing for a while; giving a mikvah, baptism, and as repentance for straying from the Laws of Moses, and a promise to return to same.

It was also the way Gentiles were turned into Jews; mikvah, nothing before that mattered, circumcision, follow Laws of Moses.

What John was doing that was odd was telling Jews they needed to be baptized as much as the Gentiles did.

>>1719260
The Essenes were just Jews who thought that there would be two messiahs, not just one, and they separated themselves from Jerusalem and lived in the desert. They're the Masada folk.

>>1719265
This is interesting too. John is considered saintly and revered in Christianity, and that he is also sonsidered to be one of the Early Christians.

>>1719273
What were their customs?

>>1718923

>How do we get from Judaism to Christianity?

By ignoring most of it, slapping a few Jewish theological concepts onto neplatonic thought, and preaching to non-Jews.

>What practices done in synagogues are carried over to the churches of christianity?

Hard to say, given how little of actual synagogue practice was recorded back then.

>>1719426
He's not a Christian; he died before Jesus did.

Jesus said John was the greatest man ever born to woman, but that the least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he.

John the Baptist will be occupying the earth with the other righteous people while we are floating in the sky.

The Essenes were basically ascetics. They had a decent idea that the messiah was supposed to come 438 years after the proclamation was given to rebuild the temple, but they like many Jews thought that no one man could do everything the messiah was supposed to do. They didn't figure into their calculations that the messiah would actually be divine, and could rise from the dead to establish an eternal throne.

The Essenes were also warriors, as they took out a good chunk of the Roman 5th legion after the temple was destroyed. When pushed back into their stronghold, every man was to kill his wife and children, and then each man would kill the next until the last man would kill himself, rather than be taken prisoner by Rome.

Hence "Never again Masada" used to be the cry of the IDF.

They changed to "Sampson Option" when they went nuclear.

(One of the men, or more, could not bear to kill his wife or daughters, and a few women survived to tell the story, per Josephus)

>>1719517
>while we are floating in the sky.

I should explain this. The City that people have heard snippets about, streets of gold, gates of pearl, layers of gems, etc., is 1,500 miles by 1,500 miles by 1,500 miles high.

It's too big to fit on the planet; it will be in orbit, close orbit, and take the place of the sun and the moon (which will have gone dark by this time).

Yes, really.

So when I say "we sky now", it is this satellite city I'm referring to, which is our base. Our city. Our home.

>>1719517
John is Christian, he lived with Christ, being a follower in person and living disciple, Christ taught him and he taught Christ.

>>1719529
To be a Christian, one must confess that Jesus is Lord (done), and believe He rose from the dead.

John was dead before Jesus rose from the dead.

He cannot be a Christian, and Jesus Himself said that the LEAST in the Kingdom of God is greater than His own best man.

We have been given unparalleled riches.

>>1719541
John believed that Yeshua is the Christ, knowing the destiny and fate of the Son of Man. A disciple is a follower of Lord Christ, therefore John is Christian. Christian becomes a religion, but it is mainly a Way of Religion rather than religion itself.

>>1718923
>How do we get from Judaism to Christianity?
The Second Covenant through Christ, the Son of God.
Marriage celebrations, fasting, the general layout of Churches overlayed with Roman design (first services being in Roman-styled livings), prayer aloud. Other things, but I can't remember currently.

>>1719590
Everyone in heaven knows that. Maybe posting the actual verse will stop you from arguing with Jesus.

Matthew 11:11 “Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

A Christian is a person with the Holy Spirit dwelling in them due to their confession of faith, belief in Jesus as Lord, and belief in the resurrection.

The Holy Spirit did not come to men until Pentecost 32 AD, long after John was dead.

Why is this your issue?

>>1719657
It seems the earliest form of Christianity is not exactly Roman, Jewish, or Greek in its pure nature. The transition from Judaism to Greek and Roman ideas has a grey-scale between it, with Christ being the reason it changed, however, we only get other successions of lines of religion and it's lineage, but the Christ's first appearance and that original Christian faith, the disciples with Christ in person, much seems to be missing from that Christianity.

>>1719682
No one is arguing with "Jesus". There is no issue either, John is a Christian, and if those who come after John are greater, it shows that the Christ is the reason. The Holy Spirit is eternal and did not originate from 32 AD, but has been timeless with God since even before the beggining.

Just different ideas we have about the same thing.

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How does Egyptian philosophy combine with Early Judaism? The Egyptians had many different ideas as did the early Hebrews, and Moses is the tie in between Egyptian and Jewish thought, and much of Judaism comes from Moses as a prophet from God,.

>>1719705

Is Moses a Christian?

Do you have a definition for what a Christian is?

>>1719724
YHWH wrecked the entire Egyptian pantheon as He led His people out of Egypt by His hand; wrecked their gods, wrecked their government, wrecked their people, wrecked their animals, wrecked their crops, and beggared them as they gave their jewelry to the Hebrews.

You people seem to think this is some sort of game. You better wake up quick.

>>1719725
Yes.

>If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. John 5:46

Moses is in direct communion with God among the Israelites and the Egyptians, teaching what God teaches to him.

Getting lost in the "Christian" definition is not important, because so many different ideas and technicalities apply to many different individuals. Moses mentions Christ, and is therefore Christian, in the sense that Christianity is centered around God, and Moses is a prophet of the Lord God.

>>1719757
So, you have no working definition of Christian, and think Moses was a Christian.

Do you understand that there is an Old Covenant and a New Covenant?

>>1719733
This is not just due to idolatry, but the Egyptians according to the Qur'an would supplicate to rid the plagues, and when God removed them, they quickly believed instead that it was due to their own magic that they were cured, and not by the Hand of the Lord.

>>1719757
The people who believed Moses and the prophets, and therefore Jesus, have their place in Israel in the Kingdom, and going forward into eternity.

Not in the New Jerusalem.

I'm starting to think you don't know what a Christian is, or how to become one.

>>1719765
>according to the Qur'an

Stopped reading right there.

Christ revamped the Ten Commandments.

>>1719763
It is not good to be lost in defining Christianity, what is important is living in the Way with Yeshua the Christ, following the commandments: Love God, treat your neighbor as yourself.

>>1719257
>Ebionites
He wasn't the Jewish messiah tho, he didn't fulfill the messianic requirements

>>1719768
>I'm starting to think you don't know what a Christian is

That is okay, because each person will view Christianity for themself, experiencing the truth for themself rather than be lost in someone else's idea of what Christianity is.

>>1719769
Is still useful information based off of the lineage of Abraham. God promises Abraham a large kingdom and descendents without numbers, and so far, Judaism, Christianity, Babism, Bahai faith, and Islam all can be traced back to the lineage of Abraham and his three wives.

>>1719781
Which ones?

>>1719694
Talk to your nearest Orthodox Presbyter or Monk at the nearest Monastery for the best answers, but what Roman ideas are you referring to? Traditional Roman dwellings had an antichamber, a pool at the front for washing the feet, a large central area for social gatherings, and the feast area in the back with bedrooms on the the side. A traditional Roman (Byzantine for HREfags) Church takes this layout plus as well as the cross shape. Traditionally, Churches didn't have pews, nor do they still unless you're American or something.

>>1719797
Didn't build the third temple, didn't unite all Jews/Gentiles, didn't create world peace, among many other things.
Nice digits though

>>1719808
>Iesus said to them, “Watch and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”

>>1719793
>useful
Islam is the word of Satan and worship of him, as is evident by its fruits. Not sure how these revelations are useful information considering that and all the misinformation and isolation relative to the Levant Mohammed was in, along with Arabia Felix.

>>1719816
It is the religious "authorities" who are preventing the building of this third temple, each trying to overcome the other rather than unite the Body of Christ. There is salvation to every Jew and Non-Jewish according to Christ and also according to Paul and his revelation of Christ. "Many people think I have come to bring peace but I have come to bring war, sword", eventually, the reconstruction of Christ will bring peace, however, Christ must have for seen what the world will do with His teachings, and seen that they would cause division in the name of "Jesus" rather than the unity that Christ taught.

>>1719835
Islam is the word of Allah, a being that is seperate from Shaitan. You submit to Allah in Islam, and you overcome Satan with Allah. The media and the internet will fail to you true Muslims in devotion to God, Allah, which according to Abrahamic perception is one accepted name of the Lord.

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>>1719822
It's a historical view of the development of the Church building style. Christ Himself went to the Temple, did He not?
The Sadduces are gone now, and the Pharasees are in Israel today, yet still wrong.
The is nothing wrong with Holy Tradition as taught and spread by the Apostles and all they learned from Christ.

>>1719776
>what is important is living in the Way with Yeshua the Christ, following the commandments: Love God, treat your neighbor as yourself.

Yup. Figured.

That's the road to hell.

>>1719816

So, the one's He's going to fulfill at the Second Coming.

Murder the Messiah.
Reject the Kingdom.
Blame the Murdered Messiah for not bringing in the Rejected Kingdom.

Jews.

>>1719784

It's okay for me, since I know what a Christian is, I know how to become a Christian, I am a Christian, and I very much enjoy being a Christian.

To you the word is meaningless. It means "good person".

>>1719793
Any useful info was plagiarized from the bible and filtered through a madman's head by the devil.

>>1719849
How is allah different from shaitan?

You know that Mohammad knew shaitan spoke to him in the cave, yes?

>>1719861

There is no holy tradition outside of the bible.

Obviously.

By definition.

>>1719861
The Apostles had the right idea, but the church today is not the Apostle back then, however, everyone sees this differently, which is why there are Orthodox and Catholics debating every day.

>>1719873
Following Christ is not the way to hell.

>>1719883
Christian means more than good person. I am not saying you aren't Christian by my standards, and why would my standards be more important than your own.

>>1719889
Not everyone will agree with you, because Muhammed descends from the line of Abraham and is still a manifestation of God's promise to Abraham.

>>1719895
Satan also spoke to Christ Yeshua and Buddha.

>>1719896
There is plenty of Holy Tradition outside of the Bible and inside the Bible.

>>1719907

It should be painfully obvious, even to you, that because you do not know what a Christian is, you do not know Jesus.

If you do not have Jesus, you do not have the Father.

If you had Jesus, you would have the Father too.

Mohammad's ancestry is irrelevant to the Kingdom of God.

>>1719908
Jesus rebuffed the devil with scripture, namely three verses from Deuteronomy.

Jesus is the Christ, so that's the same answer.

I am unaware of any necessity or event where the devil felt it necessary to move the buddha into hell faster than he was moving himself.

>>1719910
Only God makes things holy.

Here's what God says about your beloved traditions:

Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition.

Mark 7:9 He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

There's your warning.

>>1719912
Islam is a manifestation of Abrahamic faith, as is Judaism and Christianity etc.

We all have Christ Yeshua. Christians seperate eachother from Christ, like telling someone they aren't Christian because their idea is different than their own. Have the Father and the Son, I agree with you.

>>1719934
It is not.

It's a cult. Big one.

You do not have the Holy Spirit living in you, because you do not know the things you would know if you did.

You say Jesus is prophet and messiah, but those words are meaningless to you.

>>1719919
Satan is Mara in Buddhism and tempts Gautama not to spread His teachings, the same way Christ is tempted by Satan. Christ and Buddha have many parallels, the Buddhist nirvana is the Christians salvation.

>>1719928
The empty deceit is using the verses to make someone fear "you are being warned", all over a minor difference in opinion. All traditions are subject to change, and look what the churches do, but if you want to associate them that is no problem. The commandments of God are more important than these traditions and "so called traditions" that everyone says "we are God people, but you are not", even though they both identify as Christian and pray to the same God.

Is a senseless argument

>>1719849
Christ said no others will come after Himself, and Salvation is through Christ. The Old Testament prophecized Christ, likewise, as Salvation and the new Temple. The Quran even says let Christians be according to the Gospel and Jews to their Torah instead of the Quran.. directly contradicting the whole "corruption" Mohammed claims. This is just one way to prove Mohammed is not a Prophet, not of God, for certain. Likewise, the Holy Spirit does not make one desire and attempt suicide, as Mohammed did with the initial demonic contact. Remember, Satan can and has taken the form of Messengers and Angels before. Mohammed fell for this, as the Satanic Verses also shows. Again, he is no Prophet of God, performed no miracles, and relieved all his "revelations" in solitude and at a whim, when situational lyrics convenient.

>>1719948
>Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?

Christ is also crucified, the idea is to grasp all ideas and perspectives, Jews, Muslims, Christians and instead of condemn the others, unite them. We all have the Holy Spirit in us, we all come from God.

>>1719951
>the Buddhist nirvana is the Christians salvation.

Just could not be more wrong if you tried, sorry.

This is not a minor warning. You are a dead person, spiritually, and if you do not get resurrected to life and remain dead, you will be sorted into hell with everyone else who stayed dead.

>>1719896
See >>1719861 pic to address you claim that there is no Tradition except scripture. Scripture wasn't even canonized until St Athanasius of Alexandria and the early Church all came to agreement, along with the Holy Spirit. Protestants mistake is that they believe their own human authority is on the level of the Holy Spirit without ever being humble.

>>1719960
How does that prove "Muhammed is not from God"? It doesn't. It shows Muhammed believed and Allah revealed to Muhammed to let Christians be Christians and Jews be Jews, because God understands everyone is trying to worship God. Muhammed had different conditions because he is a different person in a different time.

You can hold onto the idea that "He isn't a prophet, he is not from God" but that is all assumed and never really sought out. Like, Christians believe Christ looks like that white dude and believe there is a "J" in the name of Christ, when we are shown the name Yeshua and an ethnic version of Christ, people say "heretical blaspheme" without even doing any research without bias.

It is very weird.

>>1719960
Love you.

>>1719962
No, it is not.

It is to literally have the Spirit of God literally tabernacling inside your body, resurrecting you to eternal life.

I am a temple to the Holy Spirit because He lives inside of me. I'm His house. He's my God.

>>1719981
You can mix the holy with the profane, if you so choose.

I would not suggest it, as the profane will not help you make what is holy more holy.

Only profane that which is holy.

>>1719979
Christ and Buddha teach salvation and nirvana, they are the same in its simplest form.

What is Christian about calling someone spirutally dead, and what is Christian about telling someone they will stay in hell? Nothing.

It is empty deceit that Christians do not realize what they are actually doing

>>1719928
Again, see this pic>>1719861
for your answer of scripture with scripture regarding Holy Tradition.

>>1719983
Mohammad slaughtered 800 Jewish men and boys in order to loot their tribe. He had them all killed.

Not at war, no betrayal, just the last of the Jew tribes near him, and he slaughtered them.

Let the Jews be, indeed.

>>1719996
No, they do not. There is no salvation outside of Christ Jesus. There is no other name by which men can be saved.

>>1720000
Again, you can mix the knowledge of evil and sinful men with the holy Word of God; that's on you.

And so will be the consequences.

>>1719991
That's what I also say. I am a temple of the Holy Spirit and God is inside of me. He is inside of you. God is inside every living life. GOD is even with the most hated person, the darkest sinners and God is with all of his Creation. God is in every religion. God is in ever human heart. Amen

>>1720002
David is also a war hero, and much of the Bible is also filled with war, just like Islam and Christianity's tie to Judaism.

>>1720005
Yes they do. Christ teaches what Buddha teaches what Christ teaches. Christ is the name of salvation, but to understand this is to go far beyond the basic conception of what the world teaches you God is and what God truly is.

It has been all the same since the beggining, and every religion teaches salvation through its reformer and God, reverberating the same messages, teaching the same concepts, being rejected by the same people

>>1720011
>Apostles
>unholy and sinful
As humans in our fallen state we are all very sinful, but the Apostles, as we know, we're guided and blessed by the Holy Spirit. They directly lived and learned with Christ, and the spread Christianity across the world establishing Churches, Bishops, and the Holy Tradition, and you call this blasphemous?

>>1720030
Because it denies that every person is taught by the Holy Spirit and is subject to divine inspiration. The Apostle knew this and taught this, but it is well hidden by these churches "Holy Tradition" in the present, and there is a lack of communion of the Holy Spirit seen by many Christians in churches. Many churches have Holy Spirit as many lack the Holy Spirit. Why trust the churches that continue to divide the Body of our Lord Christ?

>>1718923
There's also the testimonies of an Aramaic version of the gospel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish%E2%80%93Christian_gospels#History_of_scholarship_in_the_Jewish-Christian_gospel_problem
Most Jewish Christians probably left their Jewish brethren to go join a wider Hellenic or Syriac community. Then there's the Ethiopians who preserved a lot of Jewish customs since the early converts were mostly Jewish to the point that they're called Judaizers by some but pre Christian pagan influences like in most other Churches might be found as well.

>>1719983
>O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith."
(Surah 5:101-102).

I see that despite evidence to the contrary, the Quran being very contrary to itself at times, you do not question. Very convenient for Mohammed!
May you find and accept Christ as your Savior, as despite your renunciation of Him, He still loves you and all mankind, as wicked as we are.

>>1720042
Deviating from the teachings of Christ, the path of Christ, and the Apostolic Succession as ordained by Christ to His followers will result in a lack of God's Grace and the Holy Spirit, or seduction to the lies via demons and their worship (Pentecostals, Mormons, etc).

>>1720080
>repent and be Christian
>says to a Christian

>>1720139
The church is the seduction and also deviates from apostolic succession

>>1719257
This.

Learned it from fatcher Chrostowski and his books. Some priests still have balls to tell it like it is, without fear of being labeled as antisemite.
This is why Jews hate Christianity so much and seek to destroy it with any means necessary.

>>1719882

>My god is so weak and puny that an angry mob can thwart his plans.

Sometimes I wonder if the fact that we have atheism in predominantly Christian countries isn't to do with tolerance of dissenting opinions so much that Christianity really is dumber than other religions.

>>1720012
>God is inside every living life.

You are free to believe as many lies as you'd like.

>>1720029
Murdering 800 helpless neighbors to steal their goods does not make one a "war hero".

>>1720030

And literally everything true you know about them is in the bible.

Why are you looking outside the bible, again?

(And yes, of course they were still sinners, and still unable to make things holy.)

>>1720191
His plan was to die on a cross after being rejected by the Jews as their Messiah, and then rising from the dead three days later, defeating both the grave and death itself.

Mission Accomplished.

>>1720169
Read the Early Church Fathers, it's humbling. Again, an Orthodox monk would be ideal for you to talk to with about Holy Tradition. They know much more than anyone here. Don't be proud, seek them out.

>>1720198
That is no lie.

>>1720201
Every empire has spread through a war of some sort.

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>>1719979
Enter ye in at the narrow gate; because broad and roomy is the way, that leadeth unto destruction, and many are they who enter thereby: Because narrow is the gate, and confined the way, that leadeth unto life, and few are they who find it

>>1720230

You are free to follow Mohammad to hell, and never meet Jesus. You're well on your way.

If you decide that's a stupid thing to do, repent and be saved.

>>1720236
That gate is Jesus.

Disciple: How do we follow you, when we don't know the way?

Jesus: I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life; no man comes to the Father but by Me.

You can call Jesus a liar if you'd like.

>>1720002
The story is that Muhammad had a mediator after capturing the men of Banu Khorayza, at their request, who offered them the option of being punished by Jewish or Islamic law; they naturally picked Jewish and ended up being killed as per the theological opinion of the mediator.

Many scholars don't even accept this Hadith as reliable, t b h, but that's the story as I heard it.

>>1720245
Your talking to a Christian. Muslims are allowed to be Muslim.

>>1718923
with the force of the roman army, but i doubt you could understand this if you are a christfagg subhuman piece of shit

>>1720204
Sola Scriptura without Tradition, good works, is spiritual empty death. Just as good works without Faith is empty death. Christ established Holy Tradition via His Apostles (Baptism, Holy Communion), yet John warns that simple attending Church is not salvation. It requires all, for without Christ, Baptism, and eating His Flesh and Blood, does Salvation not await. The Apostles were instructed to teach all this so that they might saved.

>>1720258
It's a lie.

>>1720265
No, I'm not. I'm not even posting to one. I have no idea why you think you're a Christian.

>>1720270
The apostles were saved when Jesus blew the Holy Spirit into their mouths.

This is, without a doubt, the worst thread that has ever been on /his/. Even other religious threads at least try to back up their "arguments" with citations from their holy books, in an attempt to prove a point that is probably even logically valid, the problems being with their premises or their evidence.

This has been a bunch of Christfags insulting each other and telling each other they're going to hell. Congratulations, you've reduced the quality of this board another notch and robbed me of an IQ point or two from watching it.

>>1720267
>Christianity
>Spread by the Roman Army sword
>not persecuted for centuries by Rome
Basic history, anon. Even after it was accepted, it was still not forced, but spread through miracles, monks, and missionaries.

>>1720283
Wow, and you clearly don't have that many to spare.

>>1720290
I think he crawled back under his rock.

>>1720279
Even St Paul worried that he would revert back into temptations. Salvation is a journey, not a one time act or moment like Evangelicals and many Protestants tend to believe. There is no "being saved" then sinning incessantly. We are but men, sinners.

>>1720029
you are a fucking retard, a christian. How the world works and how the world ought to be is one of the main major retardations of the christfaggot. i am not a degenerate so i accept things how they are, christianity has ruined the roman empire and protects shittier genes that should die

>>1720301
You are.

I'm not. I'm a new creation in Christ Jesus. So was Paul when he was lamenting that being saved doesn't offer super powers to stop sinning prior to glorification.

Salvation is instant. Justification is instant. Sanctification is instant.

What you're trying to do is be a good little boy.

>>1720305
>yells at muslim about christians

>thinks he's not a complete dolt

>>1720290
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_pagans_in_the_late_Roman_Empire
fuck you, what are you, a christian? let me tell you want i think about your kind, degenerate slime. pray to god he doesent exist because you type a real god would love to hate, ps FUCK YOU

>>1720314
Tell him about all your confirmed kills as a Navy SEAL dude!

>>1720309
Begone, Satan. +

>>1720314
>pray to god he doesent exist

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you Fedoris Americanus, the American Atheist, in all of his drooling splendor.

>>1720309
>I'm a new creation in Christ Jesus.
basically you are an idiot, but take it easy you were build to believe, because you are a inferior human trash

>>1720317
You're going to use your daddy's name to stop me from talking about God?

kek

Won't work. Been tried before, many times, and by people with actual spiritual backup, unlike you.

>>1720321
god something original? btw i want to know, are you a christian piece of shit?

>>1720323
I'm white 6'3" fit blonde with blue eyes, happily married and gainfully employed.

kek

>>1720328
Romanizing it just for you was the original bit. You know, since you love the Romans so much. I bet you eat Roman Meal bread, light Roman candles on the 4th of July, and take it up the ass like a good little Roman slave.

>>1720329
not sure if you are a degenerate, i want to know do you believe in christ?

>>1720331
I'm honestly not sure you're old enough to be here. You're insanely not smart enough to be here.

>>1720331
I'll give you a clue, it goes back to a post of mine that you linked:

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

>>1720330
and since you bare such a worldview, everything comes from experience, how does a theologians cock taste, not a homo nor would force faggots to have children in fear of their lives, you must be the resulting geenes, you know its hard to escape degeneracy

>>1720274
That is why you don't need others to confirm your a Christian because they don't actually care about anything besides condemning "heretics"

>>1720335
good point, thats why the church is filles with criminals sex maniacs and degenerates, the type of idiots that need to be told not to kill by an immaginary god, your scum must die let nature rule you would love to participate for i am part of nature and part of god and we juuust love torturing christfaggs in their mysery and lost hopes, i am LIFE fuck your christ

>>1720339

zomg roflwaffles u #rekt him m8

>>1720342
The hardest people to save are catholics and the like, who think they're already saved by virtue of their membership in the church, or the pantheist in this thread who sincerely believes that God is in everyone.

Hence the wrecking ball.

>>1720245
are you sure you even understand the teaching of Christ or are you just some parrot that repeats some shit from a book. You must be the most bigoted Christian i've had the displeasure of listening too. Either you're 12 or some NEET who derives his existence and purpose from this parroting rather than from Christ himself. You should be ashamed.

>>1720271
Quality post, my friend. Really elevating the historical and theological discussion of the board.

>>1720344

Tell me where the catholic priest touched you by pointing on this doll, Anon.

>>1720351
I'm not, though, as Jesus condones and even applauds people for pointing out false Christians, people who say they are His but are really wolves in sheep's clothing.

The people I tell are not Christians I do so because the Spirit in me is not the Spirit in them.

They know.

Especially the taqiyya muslim.

>>1720352

You're welcome.

Here's a thought.

Stop believing the Father of Lies.

>>1720350
God is in everyone. That is also a Christian belief. God is with you. Nothing is heretical about this.

>>1720352
ironically it is a strong fact of life, christians are born to lie, it seems like almost they are a different race, a subhuman subterrant gollum type. i know they will burn in hell for this life is the only life you live, have children, sacrefice you life for others, for ideas for god and you make satan smile but please your time is up its our fun now

>>1720358
>proselytizing on 4chan
>a site where you are a single click away from seeing a cartoon tranny get fucked by several dogs
You're sure to find some quality converts, famalam.

>>1720362
What the fuck are you talking about

>>1720365
everyone should be saved anon

>>1720361
>God is in everyone. That is also a Christian belief.

No, no it is not.

>>1720365
Yes, sometimes flowers bloom in lava beds.

>>1720368
Then go door to door like the Mormons, not shitpost on a jap imageboard. It's not like no one here hasn't heard of Christianity, especially with the advent of the Internet. It's quite literally a waste of time, and it's doing nothing to increase the board's quality.

>>1720314
Closing shrines and temples for lifeless idols and demons isn't a bad thing in any way, bud.

>>1720324
May God have Mercy on you.

>>1720369
>Yes, sometimes flowers bloom in lava beds.
And the best way to make them bloom is obviously just virtue flagging at them

>>1720350
>The hardest people to save are catholics and the like, who think they're already saved by virtue of their membership in the church,
ponder this statement you made about yourself unironically

Is this some club to you in which only you are "special" and "educated" enough to understand. Everyone else is just the devil talking and fuck them, they are going to hell where they belong. You realize how you sound right....

its truly sad.

>>1720369
It is. Do you even believe in God? Whammy be seperate from God? God made the soul, God sees everything and knows everything, He is not seperate from anything.

>>1720344
Church is for sinners, all of us. You say that first part like it's a bad thing.

>>1720393
yes it is a bad thing, it preserved the scum that a ripe for death, no wonder that it worships death, christianity was from its very beguining a cult of suicide. and you wonder how come you get leaders like g bush; you are fucking to blame and you should die slowly and painfully like nature intended you to

>>1720369
your type pushes people away from Christianity. YOU are speaking as the devil.

Its really apparent from a non biased stand point why people talk shit about church fags.

You are doing Satan's work. You must understand that right. The sad thing about this whole situation is that i'm starting to think your either a troll, or some fedora atheist poisoning the well by pretending to act like a cliche evangelical nutcase for the purpose of pushing people away from salvation.

The Christ compels you!

>>1720404
>cult of suicide worshipping death
Christ is Salvation, there is no death but the passing of this life, the Spirit cannot be taken by any force in this fallen, unnatural world. Tame and eliminate your passions, find and accept Christ.

>>1720420
what salvation? christianity was a failure and did not achieve peace, ironically it was more peacefull when a strong empire united different nations and progress came with that, you are still what stops us from surpassing ourselves, and dont act like we dont know, alot of us are aware of your existence and the expense it costs to keep you alive, as i said before pray to god he doesent exist, he would rip you apart for eternity for being such a degenerate

>>1720436
God is Love, anon. I'm not sure who you're cursing me by, but he it's not God. You're labeling me a degenerate for knowing that Christ is Lord, the Son of God, and Salvation? Or did you confuse the posts I've posted with someone else?

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>>1720460
lets pretend you are right, what good is a god that is only love, how can he know whats good without knowing the bad. but you cherry pick, sure in the filthy bible god said evil comes from him as well. but that cherry picking is interesting, you think gosh if he only would read the bible he would be a believer, wrong,, you are a degenerate and scum

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>>1718923
>How do we get from Judaism to Christianity?
Paul
St. Paul
St. Paul the Usurper

Pretty simple really

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>>1720529
>St. Paul the Usurper
the bull Mithras is sacrificing represents the ecstatic god dionysus, 2000 years of oppression to come only to be stoped if you post: caesar is lord, christians should be cricified immediately, babys to feed the lions. their blood is spoilled by sin and the original sin, the apple that brings knowledge of good and evil, so dont forget god is against them and they just await their hell, so be nice with christians heaven knows there might be a god and they will burn for eternity

>>1720510
>lets pretend you are right, what good is a god that is only love, how can he know whats good without knowing the bad.
God IS. We cannot comprehend God, nor will we ever see Him, but we can bask in His Glory, by his Grace. To say God is "only love" is ridiculous.

>but you cherry pick, sure in the filthy bible god said evil comes from him as well.
God created all, visible and invisible. He simply IS. Timeless, eternal, knowing all and with no beginning or end.

>but that cherry picking is interesting, you think gosh if he only would read the bible he would be a believer, wrong,, you are a degenerate and scum

May God have mercy on us. May you accept Him and His Son in love into your heart.

>>1720529
Even Paul and his revelations can be corrupted the same way they did with Christ's teachings

>>1720413
This

>atheist troll pretending to be evangelical to push people away from salvation

It's like that moment when someone says what you've been trying to give definition to

>>1720029
Christ and Buddha (and their respective isms) are extremely different. For one, there are entirely different views on suffering. Christ teaches redemption through suffering, Buddha teaches a way to avoid suffering.

>>1720229
>"Call no one Father"
>church father

>>1720836
Christ would teach the disciples how to overcome their suffering. Buddha would also teach a likewise redemption from suffering. It is the same thing, there is suffering, you can avoid suffering that we get ourself into, we also can be redeemed through suffering for bothers persecute unjustly. We can't limit it to one side, because both taught both in some way.

>>1720845
Yet you call your dad this and your children call you this most likely. Do you call another, "god", or do you truly acknowledge God as your Father, even if you call your bio-dad "father"?

>>1719882
The Jews murdered Jesus because of what he did, not because of what he didnt do. He, as a human being, claimed to be God. God not being a man with cock n balls is a central concept in Judaism. It is taught from the days of Pharoah that if a person claims to be God, he is lying. It also taught that if someone goes against the previous word of God (as Jesus did), he is not a prophet. Shabbat Shalom.

>>1720941
Christ is the Word, fulfilling the Prophecies and Scripture.

>>1720880
In relation to family it makes sense, but I get the religious "father" is what Christ is talking about

>>1720995
Christ isnt a word; he was a human being. And humans are not God =D

There are also many prophecies he did not fulfill, like reestablishing the Holy Temple of God. You may think he'll do the in round 2, but then theres no reason to think he was originally the messiah. The Messiah (moshiach) is just going to be a kingly righteous person. The Messiah will be a person, and was never meant to be thought of as the one true God, until unholy Pagan influences got a hold of the Torah.

>>1721034
Christ is the Logos, again. He was crucified, the Temple which three days later was Risen in body and Spirit both fully.

We understand the coming of Christ and the inauguration of His Church to be the fulfillment and the perfection of Judaism (Heb. 11). Holy Scripture witnesses to this, calling the Church “the Israel of God” (Gal. 6:16) and members of the Church “heirs according to the promise” (Gal. 3:26-69).

The belief in this One God, Whom Jesus Christ has revealed to be the One God in Three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Our perfected belief in the One God. You might see this as irrational, but we cannot comprehend God, but know His Grace, so the "irrationality" of how God revealed Himself through the Trinity is wholly valid and beautiful.

Read this for more insight:
http://www.goarch.org/ourfaith/ourfaith9285

>>1718923
synagogues?? there were no synagogues in 0 AD.

>>1723965
Read a bit about it. Apperently there were synagogues but they were not places of worship and prayer. Only later, after the roman jewish wars and the exile did they take prominance as houses of worship.
Synagogue and the hebrew word knesset both mean a place of gathering.

>>1719218
It seems to me that the Essenes are in some ways similair to christianity.
They were ascetic and similair to some ascetic later christian sects.

>>1724015
Its also likely they are the source of the dead sea scrolls.

>>1723965
Whatever the gathering temple of Judaism is and their practices, and what carries over from that to Early Christianity