Indisputably the centre of the world, right?
>>1718024
>Infested with Turks
No.
>>1718024
No magheralin is.
I can't even think of anything that city ever contributed to the world.
>>1718037
if anything the turks rebuilt it
meawnhile athens looks like a third world shithole
>>1718049
>b-b-but athens
classic roach deflecting
>>1718049
Looks comfy
>>1718049
Considering moving
>>1718049
Honestly how do I go about moving to this paradise on earth?
>>1718049
How can Greece even compete
>>1718054
>>1718058
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>>1718061
>cherrypicking
pay denbts papadopoulos
>>1718067
Ankara looks nice aswell
>>1718067
Real lovely
>>1718067
I'm so jealous of such a developed nation.
ITT: butthurt internet warriors
Been there, it's pretty nice, the turks are nice people, the smell is pretty bad sometimes though
>one buttblasted greek in this thread.
So when did constantinople decline in importance?
I am talking about the seat of the ottoman empire, NOT the ERE.
>>1718085
Oh yeah, they seem lovely.
>>1718085
It's why I want to move there.
>>1718085
Great lads the turks are.
Is there a more butthurt inducing nation than the Turks? Here in Australia I'm constantly invited to idiotic victimised lectures by some backwards butthurt ethnicity like the Greeks or the Armenians.
They constantly can't shut the fuck up about how badly the Turks took a dump on their heads.
Like Christ, get the fuck over it.
>>1718088
Not an expert, but it was probably multiple reasons:
1.) Decline of trade due to colonial routes
2.) Decline of science (and being a center of research) due to lack of humanism, enlightenment, etc.
3.) General decline of the Ottomen (see previous points, also military decline, political isolation, etc.)
>>1718088
the discovery of americas, in the first place they did so to get away from ottomans dominance and pirates in the meditreanneans
>>1718024
Constantinople*
>>1718103
Well it is because the turks have a hard time trying not to spread their stolen culture in every corner of this and that because they just want to. They are trash, like for real.
Shitposting aside, I've wanted to visit Istanbul since I have a few friends there. Any time of the year you recommend?
>>1719336
Don't go during the summer as it will be 32-40 degrees every day instead go during spring then you'll have comfy weather and less arab tourists which raid the historic centre every summer.
>>1719189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcze7EGorOk
>>1718049
Greece as a whole is really pretty.
Athens though is a thoroughly modernized city since it was not particularly important during the Byzantine period and was an overgrown village during Ottoman rule. To the Ottomans credit they forbade the looting and destruction of the ancient ruins.
So if you go there expecting a city like Rome, with a rich continuous history, you won't get that. The ruins are well preserved but as a whole it's a victim of poor urban planning and much of its busy areas are focused on economy, not aesthetics.
Even so I would hardly call it "third-world".
>>1719444
Bulshit. *BA-DUM-TSH*
>>1718076
>undeveloped nation because of terrorism
>9/11