>Want to feel bad for Germans in each war >Then get reminded

>Did Germans just not understand <social cues>

Yes.

This is incidentally why they created Marxism, and invaded Belgium during WW1 and Poland during WW2.

They are politically autistic.

>sportmanship
>in war
This board is for 18+ only

>>1715527
Meh. Every country does morally questionable things. Also the Lusitania was carrying weapons so you have the American government to thank for all those dead civilians.

>>1715537
That's fine, if the u-boat had surfaced and allowed the passengers to abandon.

>>1715527
transport ammunition and war supplies on a ship full of civilians, where´s the sportmanship?

>>1715527
sportsmanship in war ended with the popular use of firearms

>>1715527
They invented submarine warfare because their ports were blockaded by England and even food was restricted forcing civilians to starve. How is that sportsmanship?

>>1715527
>sportsmanship
They literally isued a warning in american news papers.
>Notice!
>Travellers intending to embark on the Atlantic voyage are reminded that a state of war exists between Germany and her allies and Great Britain and her allies; that the zone of war includes the waters adjacent to the British Isles; that, in accordance with formal notice given by the Imperial German Government, vessels flying the flag of Great Britain, or any of her allies, are liable to destruction in those waters and that travellers sailing in the war zone on the ships of Great Britain or her allies do so at their own risk.
Imperial German Embassy
Washington, D.C., 22 April 1915.

>>1715527
It was the biggest war at the time, WAR
was evolved once men were able to kill each other with lead

>>1715531
Lmfao the Morocco Incident, never forget


Kaiser Wilhem, more like Kaiser SPERGhelm hahaaaaa

>>1715527
Lusitania was carrying weapons.

>>1715527

WW1 Germany is actually very fascinating. There's no way I could feel any type of sympathy for WW2 Germany.

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>BRITZ DINDU NUFFIN
>What was the illegal hunger blockade

OP is an eternal anglo who unironically defends the naval hunger blockade of starving german defenseless women and children which went on even after the war had long ended and cost the lives of millions of innocents

Kill yourself

>balder.org/judea/Important-Quotations-For-A-Better-Understanding-Of-WWII.php
>de.metapedia.org/wiki/Hungerblockade

>>1715527

>Basically how the fuck can people defend unrestricted submarine warfare?

>Implying that the US didn't do literally the exact same thing to Japan

War sucks and trying to neatly package everything into good guys and bad guys is impossible.

However, I will say that the Germans were very fortunate in that they were seen as useful after the war. Sure, the Allies killed off some of the most hardcore Nazis, but for the most part they wanted to keep Germany intact as a barrier against the Soviet Union. And of course, many Germany scientists were taken to the US to help with the space program. Patton even wanted to take all the remaining Wehrmacht soldiers and lead them against the Soviets immediately after the war.

If not for all those factors, I doubt Germany would even still exist. Same applies to Japan. They're very lucky that they were more useful alive than dead.

>>1715653
>There's no way I could feel any type of sympathy for WW2 Germany.
They killed a lot of communists.

>>1715677
>they killed millions of people
>but they also killed some people I don't agree with
>it evens out

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ITT people confusing WWI and WWII

>/his/

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>>1715674
>muh innocent germons

You can only commit a war crime against a human being.

>>1715696
Why would you call communists people?

>>1715702
Oh sorry, didn't realize this was a shitposting thread. My bad

>>1715700
Germans are the same species as French, British and any other nationality of Europe.

>>1715714

Top kek. The wogs begin at Calais, if you're not a Bong then you're wrong.

>>1715674
>Please ignore the fact that Germany tried their absolute best to inflict the same suffering on Britain, yet failed.

>>1715674
"""""morale"""""" bombing > blockade

>>1715712
Why did you then shitpist so much?

>>1715527
The Lusitania was choke-fully loaded with ammunition. As were many other "civilian" ships. That involvement goes too far not to consider them combatants.

Imagine the Germans used passenger ships to transport troops, supplies and tanks to invade Britain with and then shouted "hey, you can't shoot civilians!"

Furthermore, the Germans issued warnings.

>>1716125
>A bloo hoo hoo muh dead germons

Nothing of value was lost.

>>1715531
>they created Marxism

That one was a Jew.

>>1716246
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jewish_Question

>>1715527

>Load your ocean liners with muntions and passengers
>Ignore repeated attempts by German naval command to not do this
>Not expecting to get your ass spanked
>Cry when the Germans make good on the threat.

Be WW2:

Torpedo troopship
>Find out women and children are on board.
>begin a humanitarian relief with another u-boat
>Report on open channels of your intentions and ask for Allied assistance.
>Americans send a b-24 over and bomb the living shit out of the subs, killing scores shipwreck survivors and forcing the u-boats to abandon their mission
>A livid Donitz orders unrestricted submarine warfare from then on out.

There are answers out there to every German action, OP. You just have to scratch the surface

>>1715527
It's no different than transporting war material on civilian passenger ships. Do you think Britain was letting German cruise liners out of German ports?

>>1716368
>Kraut being this buttblasted

>>1716368
BOMBER HARRIS
DO IT AGAIN

Hahaha remember that time the RAF got so mad at the end of the war they sent Hurricanes to bomb, sink and then proceeded strafe the survivors of three German ocean liners at the end of the war which were packed with concentration camp victims, killing 7000?

You really think Germany had a monopoly on criminal acts?

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>On 15 February 1944 the abbey was almost completely destroyed in a series of heavy American-led air raids. The Commander-in-Chief Allied Armies in Italy, General Sir Harold Alexander of the British army ordered the bombing. The bombing was conducted because many reports from the British commanders of the Indian troops on the ground suggested that Germans were occupying the monastery, and it was considered a key observational post by all those who were fighting in the field. However, during the bombing no Germans were present in the abbey. Subsequent investigations have since confirmed that the only people killed in the monastery by the bombing were 230 Italian civilians seeking refuge there. Only after the bombing were the ruins of the monastery occupied by German Fallschirmjäger of the 1st Parachute Division, because the ruins provided excellent defensive cover, aiding them in their defence.

>>1715527
dude g*rmans amirite XD

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>>1715587
>by england

>Want to feel bad for Japanese when watching WW2 post surrender period
>then get reminded japs caused 10x the devastation all over E. Asia and they don't even bat an eye

Basically how the fuck can people not defend the unrestricted bombing program on Japan? It is such a just thing to do in every way. Did the Japanese just not understand divine retribution?

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>>1716237
>it's a frog/pollack pretending to be a bong episode

>>1715527
>Did Germans just not understand sportsmanship?

They had kind of a stance of "why are you getting so pissed off? This is war isn't it? Treaties are just pieces of paper with writing on them"

>>1715677

Yeah but so did Stalin so that's a moot point

>Basically how the fuck can people defend unrestricted submarine warfare? It's just such a dickish thing to do in every way.
We use what weapons and other means we have to conduct war within the rules given to us, or that we are willing to follow. Simple Clausewitz.
We can perhaps discuss the effectiveness of such, but the idea behind the motivations is not up for debate. They are sound enough.

>>1716987

It broke international rules of engagement, is the point. Submarines are allowed to sink ships, but they have to surface and say they're going to do it first. Problem is ships started putting gun batteries on the boats, and subs aren't durable so if they surface than they'll be destroyed. So they decided to take illegal action instead.

>>1717009
>It broke international rules of engagement, is the point.
Rules are merely what outlines of a game we must nominally follow, not rules we will necessarily follow. Anyone who has engaged in any game, even tag as children, knows there's a certain dynamic to rules.
The germans figured it was in their favour the break the rule, and attempted to establish rules in its favour. And they weren't the only ones to do so. This is simply a dynamic of war without bodies vested with the authority and power to enforce rules.

>>1717057

Yeah well don't be surprised when doing so can bite you in the ass. Britian might've never even entered the war if they didn't enter Belgium because the war with France, Britain had a handshake agreement with them, they could back out of it. But they put in writing that anyone who fucks with Belgium's neutrality is going down.

>>1716378
>letting civilians die is just banter /b/ro.
>>1716368
tell me more.

>>1715845
this

>>1717081
It might. It also might not. The rule-breaker banks on the latter.
Come now, who can say they've never cheated in a game? Got hit by a dodgeball but no one was looking? Been the banker in monopoly and took "withdrawals" when folks were off taking a piss or having a smoke? Underfed POWs to free up supplies for more useful manpower? Rounded up Made extensive use of torture as an interrogation method during late colonial wars and cold war proxy conflicts?

>>1717114

When you have something in writing, you need to hold yourself to it internationally. Germany genuinely thought Britain wasn't going to do anything about Belgium because "it's just a piece of paper".

>>1715533
>What are war crimes

Fucking retard.

>>1717119
>What are war crimes
A term used to punish only the defeated.

>>1717116
See, this is the truly autistic thing with Germans every time. They really don't seem to understand that treaties actually mean shit. Perfidious as Britain may have been, it wasn't full retard with its obligations.

>>1717116
>When you have something in writing, you need to hold yourself to it internationally
No you don't. Who says you can't remilitarize the rhineland, or carve a bit off the Czech's? What's a rule without effective enforcement?
Who says you can't use gas? The germans might have been the first to utilize lethal gas on a large scale, but the earlier use of tear gas by both sides was a very obvious line skirting towards a potential escalation, resulting in both sides not giving anything of a damn regarding the legality of chemical warfare.
There are few laws that consider two wrongs a right, especially not in the matter of war. The allies may have been responding in kind to an existing breach of international law, but a breach is a breach.
I realize there is something almost disgusting in my conflation of war crimes as the same as innocent rulebreaking, I do not say such without understanding the gravity of the situation. Even if you support a particular war, war itself and almost everything about it is pretty terrible, and is driven by a pretty terrible sort of logic.

>>1715527
>sportsmanship
What the hell are they going to do against the Number One naval power in the world with the most battleships?

>>1717121
Careful not to cut yourself on your wehrmacht trench knife, edgelord.

>>1715539
They fucking told everyone the day of that they were going to sink it because it held weapons.

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>>1715700
>>1716237

>>1716431
fuck up ned

I have noticed that the anti german posting started full scale since brexit occurred. Are all the buttdevastated poles returning from england?

>>1717171
he isn't wrong though.

>>1717187
He isn't necessarily wrong, insofar is it relates to the mass trials we associate it with, but if breaching international law or internal ethical guidelines is seen as counterproductive, individual militarymen will often see trial for such. The differences is merely a matter of scale.

>>1717119
A meme. Just like international law.

>>1717181
>e-everyone who disagrees with me is actually a joo!!!!1!
Keep being delusional, you make yourself more laughable.

>>1717121

>A term used to punish only the defeated.

I agree with this.

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>>1715587
>by england

The Lusitania was carrying munitions. You can't blame the Germans when America was pulling a Palestine and using citizens to shield their military activities.

>>1715698
I noticed that too....fucking millennials.

>>1716467
The Japanese did completely and savagely wreck the eastern Chinese during WWII

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ITT: Anglos