Was there a connection between Bolshevism and Jewry?

>>1712485
Take whatever you hear on /pol/, and don't bring it here.


sage

>>1712485

You see, the Bolsheviks came to power in Russia in the latter days of WW2. The Kaiser had sent Lenin over to Russia in the hopes of fomenting revolution, and supplied him with arms, funding, information, as well as the stresses of the conventional war eating away at the Czar's and later the White's legitimacy and power.

As the Fleet mutiny and the 1918-19 revolutions demonstrated, the Kaiser's government were all Jews and thus their actions were part of an organized Jewish plot to create Judeo-Bolshevism to defeat Hitler in the 40s. Jews come up with awfully complicated schemes sometimes.

>>1712499
>thus their actions were part of an organized Jewish plot to create Judeo-Bolshevism to defeat Hitler in the 40s
Wtf did I just read

>>1712508

I'm sorry, I guess I should have made it clearer that I was joking.

No, the biggest supporter of the Early Soviets was Kaiser Wilhelm's government, not "Da Jooz"; and by claiming that it was some sort of Jewish plot, you necessitate the belief that the Second Reich was under the control of the Jews as well, which makes a lot of Nazi style notions absurd.

>>1712485
What did he mean by this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmO2QldMTTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa-dInQEa-4

>>1712530
>>1712533
>It's a retarded Stormblr who escaped his containment board posting copypasta links to sourceless claims

Wew lad

Russia has had Jews since forever
Russian radicals and revolutionaries since forever have been from Orthodox Boyar families and students
The majority were not Jewish, most of them were just dumb college kids and pseudo intellectuals who fell for the Communism meme
>B-but Trotsky was a Jew

>>1712535
Putin flat out says the communist party was almost entirely composed of Jews. Explain this redditfag.

>>1712545
>Putin says
Wew lad.

>>1712545

I didnt know Putin was a) there in 1917 and b) the authority on the history of the Communist Party.

>>1712545
...It wasn't, it's blatantly false

1. Putins not a historian

2. You're using an Appeal to Authority, ala logical fallacy

3. You're retarded

>>1712545
>KGB agent claims something
>Must be true

>>1712548
It confirms it's not just some internet conspiracy that people don't talk about in the real world when one of the most powerful people on the planet agrees with it.

>>1712555
My point was the above.

>>1712559
Something related to the KGB. He let one of their biggest secrets out.

>>1712568
>appealing to authority

>>1712568
>It confirms it's not just some internet conspiracy
No, it's blatantly incorrect no matter how you put it, Jews constituted maybe a quintile, and even that's highballing it

>My point was the above.
What the fuck are you saying? Are you retarded?


>He let one of their biggest secrets out

WHAT are you talking about?

>>1712568
The leadership of Iran denies holocaust details and Japan claims they dindu nuffin in China. The USA also blatantly lies to their people and so does Germany.

>>1712568
>Something related to the KGB. He let one of their biggest secrets out.
Wish he would let some more out of the files he burned during the fall of the Berlin wall.

>>1712485
There was a connection, in the sense that there was a disproportionate number of Jews in the Bolsheviks But they were no were near a majority of the Bolsheviks, nor were anything close to a majority of Russian Jews communists. Most Russian Jews were still impoverished and uneducated shtetl-dwellers. The most popular political party among politically active Jews was the Jewish Labour Bund, a secular, socialist, anti-Zionist, but non-Marxist party.

Also, this over-representation isn't because of any conspiracy. Rather, Jews were treated like shit in the Russian Empire, so it's not surprising they turned to revolutionary parties who opposed anti-Semitism. Jews were also more likely to be well-educated, and the intelligentsia was a major source of support for revolutionary politics. Their education allowed them to rise to leadership positions as well.

And they obviously had no connection to wealthy capitalist Jews. Jews are not a hivemind.

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>>1712632
Thank you for the reply, it was best ITT.

>>1712632
This.

It is also worth pointing out that Imperial Germany supported the Bolshiviks as a way to take Russia out of WW1.

They sent Lenin over from Switzerland back to Russia in a sealed train car.

>>1712645
Don't mention it. Some things I forgot to add:

It makes no sense to say they were funded by Zionists. The Bolsheviks were not pro-Zionist. There position was that Jews attempting to get their own state was a waste of time. Instead, they should focus on overthrowing the capitalist system, after which anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry would vanish under communism. They weren't as strongly anti-Zionist as the Bund, admittedly. Zionism was pretty small at this time anyway; most Jews were not Zionists.

Also, the Jews who joined the communists were only Jews in the ethnic sense. Obviously they weren't religiously practicing (because Marxism is an atheist ideology), but furthermore they divorced themselves totally from Jewish culture and usually rejected any sort of Jewish identity, viewing themselves as working for international revolution. Look at Marx himself. He was Jewish in ethnicity, but he wrote an essay entitled "On the Jewish Question" (which you can find online) in which he harshly condemns Jewish culture (in terms many might find anti-Semitic) and says it should die, as all Jews ought to assimilate. Marxists (at least in their early idealistic phase, before they actually got power) saw themselves as citizens of the world, not as Jews or members of any other ethnic group.

Basically /pol/ is full of shit, as always

>What would socialists and capitalist Jews have in common?

Desire of revenge over pogroms.

Jews have committed mass murder against Russian Christians three times during the 20th century. The Red Terror, dekulakization and privatization in the 1990s, and they still haven't satisfied their vengeful blood lust. They still want war with Russia and the enslavement of its people. Just look at neoconservatives and liberal interventionists in the U.S.

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>>1712485

>>1712632

Good post.

Quite the brainteaser, really: You're a politically-minded Jew in the Russian Empire. Do you: a) Join a movement that wants to kill you
b) Join a movement that doesn't want to kill you?

>>1712485
Many Russian Jews were communists because communism is an ideology of liberation. It's particularly attractive to people not only oppressed by capitalism, but also by Tsarist ethnic repression.

That being said, the Menshevik social democracy seems to have been more popular with Russia's Jews than Bolshevik socialism.

>>1712545
>>1712535
Its literally fucking Putin a commie-boo saying it was 80% Jews to a room full of Jews.

Fuck off. You anti-/pol/ people are so anti-pol its to the point of being retarded.

>treat jews like shit
>be surprised when they support the revolution

But no, everything has to be part of a massive conspiracy to /pol/

>actual communism wants to give power to the proletariat
>somehow the kikes are behind everything

Do you regurgitate everything you see on /pol/? I notice that happens a lot with beta faggots.