So how exactly Slavs managed to overrun 1/3 of Europe?

>>1706246
There's a lot of them. They are the Asian European hybrids.

They're Zergs. They're also subhumanish.

>>1706246
>overrun
Are you implying there were other people to be overrun?

>>1706283
yesh.
the original afro-european empires

I want to point out that Slavs are only a linguistic group (the same way Romance is a linguistic group) and not some "arr are same" genetically and culturally same peoples. The pan-Slavic shit is only repeated by the subhuman Russians who try to enslave the smaller Slavic nations or by insecure faggots who are anti-West and want Russian alcoholic limp dicks in their mouths.

Eastern Rome was falling apart so they were able to literally walk up to farms and tell the people living there to leave

>>1706312
Not really to leave.
South slavs still genetically mostly descend from natives.
They just formed dominant rulling class that assimilated all others.

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>>1706246
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233399693_Odontological_Analysis_of_the_Wielbark_Culture_Population_from_Rogowo_Cementery_Poland
http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~anthro/pdf/mono/vol012/01piontek.pdf
http://arheologija.ff.uni-lj.si/documenta/pdf33/nowak33.pdf
https://etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_file?accession=osu1330969837&disposition=attachment
http://www.ptantropologiczne.pl/en/ckfinder/userfiles/images/AR/vol76/AR_76-1-001-022.pdf
https://pl.scribd.com/doc/14180564/INDO-ARYAN-AND-SLAVIC-LINGUISTIC-AFFINITIES

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>>1706250
>>1706276
>>1706312
>>1706246
It's not XIX century anymore.

Stop posting German propaganda.

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>>1706326

>>1706246
Help from the eternal Anglo.

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>>1706329
>The Przeworsk[1] culture is part of an Iron Age archaeological complex that dates from the 3rd century BC to the 5th century AD.[2]

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>>1706332
Majority of Germans are in fact Slavs.

It was germanised Slavs that united Germany.

>>1706283
Yes, especially in the Balkans. Slavs arrived there because they disliked the Avars and could settle unopposed because of the crises in the Roman Empire. Slavs were very numerous and it has been hypothesized that they actively incorporated slaves and such into slavic culture. The Roman emperors also moved slavs into Anatolia to repopulate it.

>>1706321
Balkan refugees going to the remaining part of the eastern Roman empire is well documented

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>>1706335
As for the 'Asiatic' meme.

Here's asian admixture. Only Russians are asiatic, rest of the Slavs isn't.

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>>1706342
Tthe "slav is subhuman" meme is spread by weak jawed manlets in germany and northern europe as propaganda against the slavs.
The slavs are descendants of the proto indo european warriors, who worshipped the sky and war gods.

Ancient burials also prove that the ancient peoples living in slavic regions of europe were predominantly red/blonde haired, tall, pale and blue eyed.
Eastern europe is also whiter than western europe.

>>1706354
t. subhuman slav

>>1706341
Refugees were at that time usually urban populations, and urban populations in balkans by the 6th century deteriorated to small numbers.
You still have latin people in balkans today (vlachs in fyrom), and there are populations that were assimilated only in last few hundred years

>>1706354
Wait, wait, Russians are subhuman. It was the Russian subhumans that try to pass this off as "Slavs are all the same, so Slavs are subhumans, you guys". Let's be clear, repeat after me - Slavs are not subhuman, only Russians are.

>>1706354
Remember that Slavs weren't the only people who inhabited "slavic regions of Europe"

>>1706365
Calling slavs subhuman makes you call germans subhumans as well.

Since Germans are nothing more than Celts, Slavs and Scandinavians merged into one country.
>>1706373
Wrong >>1706322
>>1706333

>>1706370
>most succesfull slavic group
>subhuman
Im not even russian but you poles are butthurt as fuck

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>>1706379
>most succesfull slavic group
Funny how majority of things Russians had were stolen from their neighbours.

>>1706375
what are the dutch?

>>1706384
Germanics/Franks, same as Belgians

>>1706379
>success means having lots of useless land
ok

>>1706383
>>1706389
You dont have to be so angry that russians are more succesfull than poles.

>success mean having lots of useless land
>ok
I dont even know how to respond to something so stupid

>>1706403
There were major Slavic powers in Europe a thousand years before Russia even appeared.
And now Russia is an AIDS-ridden shithole, much poorer and pathetic than half the Slavic countries.

>>1706333
Wouldn't this imply that the Dacians were Slavic?

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>>1706403
Successful in starving and having infrastructure from XIX century?

Russia was never a real country to begin with. You were artificialy created by Vikings, later ruled by German/Danish dynasty and then made into Red Communist shithole by Germans again.

>>1706419
They didn't speak slavic. It's all about linguistics.

>>1706367
They also included farmers. Yes a lot of them stayed, But a lot left.

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>>1706335
>Slavic part of Germany is the part that contributed the least culturally
>Slavic part of Germany started two world wars
>Slavic part of Germany is the poorest part of Germany
>Danzig, the ony thing worth of a damn in cultural terms in Eastern Germany, isn't Slavic

>>1706413
Doubt there were any slavic states 1000 years before kievan rus.

>>1706426
>muh fake country
jesus fuck, isnt /pol/ board for nationalistic circlejack

Russian influence in science, politics and culture far outweighs any other slavic country.

>>1706443
>kievan rus is russia
l
o
l

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>>1706440
I'll bite.
>Slavic part of Germany started two world wars
Because it united Germany.
>Slavic part of Germany is the poorest part of Germany
because of Communism
>Danzig, the ony thing worth of a damn in cultural terms in Eastern Germany, isn't Slavic
Gdansk was part of Germany for short time. For majority of its history it was Polish and founded by Poland.
>>1706443
>Doubt there were any slavic states 1000 years before kievan rus.

I guess Germans made shit up when writing about Polish dynasties from 7th century :^)

>>1706447
>Named rus by people who spoke language ancestral to modern russian
>not russia

>>1706448
Kievan rus was not founded in 17th century.
And if you want to argue polish parts of former 2nd reich were its poorest parts

>>1706462
>And if you want to argue polish parts of former 2nd reich were its poorest parts
Do you have any source to back it up?

>>1706464
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostflucht

>>1706468
Don't blame Poles for it.

Those lands were in German sphere since paritions of Poland, so 18th century. It's German's fault they didn't develop it.

It was Polish lands that made it possible for Prussia to unite German lands. It doubled their economy. - which says it all.

>>1706443
>Doubt there were any slavic states 1000 years before kievan rus.
Kievan Rus isn't Russia, Russia comes from the Duchy of Moscow which was first mentioned as a separate state in 1380

>>1706485
And Russia is even a later concept.

>>1706335

Would it surprise you to know that literally every German woman in East Germany was raped by a Russian between 1945 and 1947?

Did you know the Soviets replaced the population with Eastern Europeans?

>>1706493
>Would it surprise you to know that literally every German woman in East Germany was raped by a Russian between 1945 and 1947?
>Did you know the Soviets replaced the population with Eastern Europeans?
That's not how genetics work, moron.

>>1706326
Do you have a source for that image? I find Slavic toponyms in the Ruhr area and East Frisia hard to believe.

>>1706485
Russia is the kingdom of the russ people. A title Moscowzy only took after taking all the other Tunisia principalities

the real question is

why does poland still exist

>>1706495
They are just checking for Y-dna so it do work theoretically. Don't think there was that much rape though and that most of it ended in abortions either way.

>>1706485
>Germany isnt german, its prussian
>UK isnt british, its wessexian
>Italy isnt italian, its piedmontesian

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>>1706499
For that one? No.

Majority (if not all) names ending with ow/ov, owa/ova, owo/ovo, in, ina, ino, au, itz, itza, itze or having wend/vind root are of Slavic origin.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?14163-Expansionist-maps/page19

Here is source for other ones.
>>1706515
German women weren't raped after WW2.

They whored themselves for food.

>>1706491
Well in fact yes but as Russia was still ruled by the same dynasty (atleast for some time) and it was still centered in Moscow you can say the Duchy of Moscow is it's predecessor.

But Russians claiming Kievan Rus is Russia it's simply a historical lie. Moscow didn't even exist at the time Kievan Rus was founded and "Great Russian" language and identity came to exist only long after it's fall.

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>>1706518

>>1706493
>raped by a Russian
Most soldiers were not even Russian, but random Central Asians or Caucasians. Also Russia is quite literally the most raped """'nation"""" in history.

>>1706519
>But Russians claiming Kievan Rus is Russia it's simply a historical lie. Moscow didn't even exist at the time Kievan Rus was founded and "Great Russian" language and identity came to exist only long after it's fall.
If I remember correctly it was Catherine that invented the Russian meme.

>>1706495
>That's not how genetics work, moron.
>sex isn't how genetics work

oh then everybody living in the Americas is more or less full blown red native cause populations don't actually ever get completely replaced, only "ruling classes" change

we can definitely trust that the people living in a given area are of a type that have always been there, in all cases

the mongols didn't erase entire groups of people, they just peacefully ruled over them

there are just as many jews living in Poland as there used to be

faggot

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>>1706379
>>1706370
Russians are literally slaves, always have been. From mongols to czars to commies to Putin. If the word "slave" did originate from "slav", it was because of Russians being the dominant slav demographic.

I suggest you read pic related.

>>1706515
>Don't think there was that much rape

oh man

>most of it ended in abortions

what you mean infanticide? You would be surprised how often that actually doesn't happen.

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>>1706530
You fucking retard.

This certain branch of haploshit is present in Eastern Germany and Western Poland for longer than any WW2 bullshit. It can be traced thousands years.

>>1706535
Sure, might try mein kampf after that for more objective literature

>>1706538

so the slavs were just raping each other the whole time

damn

why is Poland so slav?

is this the "poles STILL being butthurt after all these years and centuries" general?

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>>1706440
>Slavic part of Germany made Germany
>Most important German philosopher came from Slavic part of Germany
>Most important German military thinker came from Slavic part of Germany (and judging by the name from Slavic family as well)
>Slavic part of Germany man managed to impose its disciplined militaristic ethos on the rest of it
really makes you think

>>1706540
>you dare say something bad about mother russia, you're a fascist
every time the same shit with you subhumans

>>1706293
The old Afro-European empires were devastated during the Finno-Korean hyperwar and never recovered.
This happened long before Slavic people had migrated to Europe.

>>1706500
Rus' people aren't Russians though. Modern day Ukraine has a stronger claim to Kievan Rus' history than Russia does.

>>1706551
Im not russian, and calling someone subhuman strangely coresponds with usual fascist methods.

>>1706548
>Slavic part of Germany made Germany
Then destroyed it and made it a puppet to others for all of eternity.

>>Most important German philosopher came from Slavic part of Germany
Even a blind hen may find a
even a blind chicken finds a kernel of corn now and then

>>Most important German military thinker came from Slavic part of Germany (and judging by the name from Slavic family as well)
>>Slavic part of Germany man managed to impose its disciplined militaristic ethos on the rest of it
>Slavs are only useful for waging war and destroying things
How surprising

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>>1706561

>>1706576
k

>>1706500
"Different from other Slavic languages, in the specific case of the Russian language, russkiy (pyccкий) refers to both the Rus' people and modern day Russians, rossiyskiy (poccийcкий), with no distinction (deliberately implying both being the same people with the same language - see Russification)."

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>>1706563
>Then destroyed it and made it a puppet to others for all of eternity.
Kinda wrong, it got conquered by full-blooded Slavs. Also last time I checked Germany was pretty much most influential European country.

>Even a blind hen may find ..
Apart from Clausewitz and Kant we also have there Hayek, Bergius, Windaus, Ledwinka, Wallach and many others, but whatever floats your boat buddy.

>Slavs are only useful for waging war and destroying things
hurting your feelings as well I guess

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Even today people in eastern Germany and in Austria have a lot of R1a haplogroup, which was most common among Medieval West Slavs.

Also I2a haplogroup is very typical for Slavic populations. Of course it would be a mistake to associate haplogroups with ethnicities, but are there are certain statistical correlations, which allow us to arrive at certain conclusions and generalizations concerning their origins.

Also Slavic surnames are common in Germany - some of them are Polish in origin but some are from other Slavic groups.

For example here is surname "Janke", distribution of which indicates that it is Obotrite-Veleti rather than Polish, Pomeranian or Sorbian:

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>>1706606
Comparison of R1a and R1b haplogroups among people in various German, Austrian, Czech and Polish cities today:

Map shows modern-day R1b / R1a proportions among inhabitants of 25 selected cities located in Central Europe:

Dark green = Polish and Czech cities
Light green = German & Austrian cities with ~20% (Greifswald) up to ~43% (Graz) of R1a
Dark red = other cities in Germany

What can be observed is that former Slavic areas in Germany & Austria correlate with high % of people with R1a haplogroup:

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>>1706609
Graz in Early Middle Ages was a Slavic city (burgh) of the Principality of Carantania, which was called Gradec (in Old Slovene language). Graz has so high percent of people with R1a haplogroup, that it is obvious that they are mostly descendats of Germanized Slovenes (Carantanians).

Note that German-speaking Austrian inhabitants of Graz have a higher % of R1a than ethnic Slovenes of Slovenia.

According to our website, 38% of Slovenes from Slovenia have R1a haplogroup, while 43% of Austrians from Graz have it:

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

>>1706606
>>1706609
>>1706610
So if anything. Western Slavs like: Poles, Czechs and Sorbs are native to Eastern Germany and Western Poland.

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>>1706606
>>1706609
>>1706610
>>1706611
Germanic-speakers were not the original IE inhabitants of territory which is now Poland, they came during middle-to-late Iron Age as immigrants or invaders and in relatively small numbers.

There is a biological population continuity in Poland since the Bronze Age until nowadays - neither Germanic immigration nor Slavic immigration altered it considerably.

Language & culture of population of Poland were changing few times, but population - in its main core (not counting quite numerous admixtures from migrating peoples) - is similar as in times of Biskupin-builders:

http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~anthro/pdf/mono/vol012/01piontek.pdf


>inb4 butthurt germanboos
Sorry I shattered your dreams.

>>1706612
>>1706606
>>1706609
>>1706610
>>1706611
holy mother of wewuzism

>>1706620
It's genetics/dna and archeology.

I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand that.

>>1706576
I find the image in my head that all russians disregarding of social standing are tracksuit-sporting skinheads

>>1706576
Why is he seeing 6 people when there are only 5 bydlos?

>>1706635
the actual tweet is about black people

>>1706635
6th one is lying in the mud below.

>>1706635
Sergei is sitting on Dimitri

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>>1706389
> Poles
> being as relevant to the world as Russians
They would be lucky to be have at least 40% of Russian success.

>>1706576
> ((( herschel lieberman )))

>>1707407
120 milion population vs 38 milion population

>>1706322
>>1706326
>>1706329
>>1706333
>>1706335
>>1706342
>>1706354
>>1706383
>>1706448
>>1706538
>>1706606
>>1706609
>>1706610
>>1706612
You seem very frustrated

>>1706246
"Europe" itself is a concept that was expanded, specially by slavs

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>>1707423
Poles only themselves to blame for not being on a 120 million side here. There was a fair chance.

>>1707603
And you seem not fit for this board in any way.

>>1706296
False. You're some butthurt belter imagining things, probably Estonian or some shit like that.
It's true Slavs are diverse but they both have common genetics in varying degrees and common cultural aspects (in varying degrees).
Of course Serb and Bulgarian are closer to Russians than to Poles, and Slovaks are more similar to Czechs and so on, but that doesn't make Slavs "j-jus a linguistic group" you cockmongler.
Only people who repeat that meme are people who want Slavs to kill and hate each other while foreigners profit. Kys.

>>1707644
When fucking France was Slavic? I call bullshit here straight from my room in Moscow.

>>1707603
he provided sources you fucking retard

>>1707669
/pol/acks also provide sources in regards to jewish conspiracies and the holocaust being a hoax

>>1707644
MЫ

>>1707658
kill yourself, pan-slavic shithead

>>1707658
Please tell us simmilarities between Bosniaks and Russians besides language.
Saying all the slavs are same is just like saying scots and austrians are same

>>1707689
bosniaks are islamized serbs and serbs are brothers to bulgarians and bulgarians are proto-russians

>>1707658
>Of course Serb and Bulgarian are closer to Russians than to Poles
How did you come to that conclusion? And please don't tell me muh orthodoxy.

>>1707681
БЫЛИ

>>1707691
this is what brainwashed pan-slavic shits actually believe

>>1707691
Wow you made three claims and all three are wrong.
Maybe you should post on /b or /tv

>>1707691
>serbs are brothers to bulgarians
>brothers
scientific as fuck and not at all propaganda for plebs

>>1706296
Of course Slavs are mostly a lingustic group, sure there are some cultural similarities but also major difference like the Western Slavs being exposed to Western influence when the Southern and Eastern Slavs mostly to Eastern/Byzantine influence.

If slavs are a genetic group and not a linguistic one then Hungarians, Finns and Greeks are also slavs.

>>1707671
do you even understand what genetic research and archeology is?

>>1707423
Not to mention:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligenzaktion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tannenberg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Prosecution_Book-Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulturkampf

>>1707692
Religion plays no part in culture? Are you retarded?
Their cultures stem from both Slavic origins and reception of Byzantine culture.
>>1707689
Never said that all Slavs are same, just that there are similarities in various degrees, and "Slavs are just a linguistic group" is a fucking meme spouted by people with malicious intent.
Even if we accept that there are differences, West Slavs as a group are quite similar, South Slavs are similar, Ukrainians and Belorussians are literally flavored Russians and so on.
Even if we observe Slavs as whole, similarity is not just linguistic, even if you just use the communist rule as a common denominator.
"Slavs are all same" and "Slavs are just a linguistic group" are both idiotic statements.

>>1707756
kill yourself, russian scum

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>>1706448
:)))

>>1707762
I'm not even Russian but you're clearly a butthurt belter given how triggered you are.
>yes yes you're totally different and Russians are evil Mongols and X are Y now hate each other and suck Western cock like we do!
Fuck off. Not even a Russiaboo, but it's painfully clear to everyone with a few brain cells that you have malicious intent.
I'm not calling for Slavic unions and shit, but Slavs are not "just" a linguistic group (what the fuck does that even mean, is language irrelevant?)

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>>1707773

>>1707779
You're clearly a pan-slavist, who hates on Europe and wants to suck Russian dicks. Pathetic subhuman.

>>1707744
> Not to mention:
102 vs 44, if you stop at 1930 year.

>>1707756
Similarities between slavs are dominantly linguistic, West Slavs will be more simmilar to Austrians and Hungarians than to any other group.
Balkans are its own microcosm, with croats and slovenes having much greater cultural connection to italians and austrian besides any other non-southwest slavic group, serbs and bulgars share far more culture with greeks and turks than russians or poles.
East slavs again are its own sphere, which evolved much isolated from the west.

There are no pan-slavic customs, religion, cuisine, dances...
You far overestimate cultural connection between slavic groups

>>1707811
>East Slavs
No such thing.

Only Russians and brainwashed Russians.

>>1707801
>hates on Europe
I don't hate on Europe I just don't like modern West, doesn't mean I love Russia you retarded nigger, it's not A or B, did your mother drop you on your head when you were a baby?

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>>1707822
kys mongol

>>1707822
There been enough nationalist bullshit from that pole for one thread

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>>1707811
> There are no pan-slavic customs, religion, cuisine, dances...
Great meme, boy.

>>1707832
>nationalist bullshit
t. leftshit

>>1707831
Svidomit/zmagar detected.

>>1707811
>Austrians
>Poles are similar to Austrians
It's clear you never visited Poland and Austria and you don't know history that well.
>share far more culture with greeks and turks
So do Russians. Again, it's clear you don't know much about shit you're talking about, you got educated by /int/ or some cancer like that.
And again I never ever said Slavs are all same, but Slavs stem from same roots and some Slavs evolved with same influences. Of course that diverged over time but it's idiotic to say there's no similarity between (Orthodox) Balkan Slavs and Russians when these groups themselves consider that such similarities exist.

>>1707838
If you clicked on some of them you would see that most of these dishes are not exclusively slavic but also german, greek or influenced by other groups.
Slavs were living in tribes during migrations, they werent making cakes or pies during that time.

>>1707866
Should have said czechs and slovaks.
And i know well enoguh to remember that part of poland was part of AH.

They divereged 1400-1300 years ago and evolved in very different environment, they were christianized separately and south slavs especially are not group that just replaced natives, but is product of them mixing together.
As i said comparing bosniak and Russian is like comparing english and austrian, there might be some similarities, but they are far outweighed by similarites they share with immediate neighbours